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Old 24 April 2020, 07:29 AM   #631
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Buying question –
Great watches guys!

Need advice.

I'm doing some research to purchase a 1608 red. Question – from an investment standpoint, is it better to prioritize box/papers or actual watch qualities/polishing, etc? As new to vintage buyer, at first I only wanted to purchase one with paperwork, now I'm not so sure...

I prefer the MK II dial but realize it might be a stretch.

Thanks for your help.

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Old 24 April 2020, 10:24 AM   #632
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Great watches guys!

Need advice.

I'm doing some research to purchase a 1608 red. Question – from an investment standpoint, is it better to prioritize box/papers or actual watch qualities/polishing, etc? As new to vintage buyer, at first I only wanted to purchase one with paperwork, now I'm not so sure...

I prefer the MK II dial but realize it might be a stretch.

Thanks for your help.

New guy – Scott
Scott, for a 1680 Red you are going to have a Meters First, or Feet First Dial. The Meters First have a higher value than the Feet First, if everything else is equal on the watches.

Case condition. Original Dial Condition. Color and evenness of Patina. Hand Condition. These are all the priority considerations when buying a vintage piece and Red Sub. Box and Papers are the icing on the cake and they do increase the value as a full package, if they are authentic.
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Old 25 April 2020, 08:18 AM   #633
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Watch condition, over box and papers
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Old 9 June 2020, 11:46 AM   #634
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Recently picked up this '74 (I think) 378XXXX Mark VI Red Sub from a well respected local long-time watchmaker / Rolex service tech. It was nice to have someone I trust open it up to go through together before I said "yes". Had to replace the tube & crown, and decided on a fresh NOS acrylic crystal as well. Love it!
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Old 9 June 2020, 12:01 PM   #635
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Recently picked up this '74 (I think) 378XXXX Mark VI Red Sub from a well respected local long-time watchmaker / Rolex service tech. It was nice to have someone I trust open it up to go through together before I said "yes". Had to replace the tube & crown, and decided on a fresh NOS acrylic crystal as well. Love it!
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Old 9 June 2020, 12:30 PM   #636
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Recently picked up this '74 (I think) 378XXXX Mark VI Red Sub from a well respected local long-time watchmaker / Rolex service tech. It was nice to have someone I trust open it up to go through together before I said "yes". Had to replace the tube & crown, and decided on a fresh NOS acrylic crystal as well. Love it!

Congrats! Very nice pick up. What’s the date stamp on the case back?
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Old 9 June 2020, 12:44 PM   #637
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Congrats! Very nice pick up. What’s the date stamp on the case back?
No date, only 1680.

From what I understand, dates were left off case backs starting around '73...
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Old 9 June 2020, 01:38 PM   #638
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Recently picked up this '74 (I think) 378XXXX Mark VI Red Sub from a well respected local long-time watchmaker / Rolex service tech. It was nice to have someone I trust open it up to go through together before I said "yes". Had to replace the tube & crown, and decided on a fresh NOS acrylic crystal as well. Love it!
Nice red sub. Which local watchmaker in the bay area?
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Old 10 June 2020, 01:53 AM   #639
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Nice red sub. Which local watchmaker in the bay area?
Roger / California Watch Co. out of Concord... he's been at it for 40+ yrs.
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Old 10 June 2020, 03:07 AM   #640
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No date, only 1680.



From what I understand, dates were left off case backs starting around '73...


Thanks. Thought it was a bit later.
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Old 10 June 2020, 03:29 AM   #641
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Roger / California Watch Co. out of Concord... he's been at it for 40+ yrs.
Interesting. Never heard of him or California Watch Co.
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Old 10 June 2020, 03:35 AM   #642
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Interesting. Never heard of him or California Watch Co.
He doesn't typically deal with direct - more shop service, but his info is readily available. Happy to make an intro if you have an actual need...
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Old 10 June 2020, 03:35 AM   #643
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Apologies for the 'phone picture . . . 2215XXX

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Old 10 June 2020, 04:12 AM   #644
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Old 10 June 2020, 04:51 AM   #645
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Another (poor) 'phone picture (sorry.) - 2951XXX

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Old 10 June 2020, 05:45 AM   #646
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Another (poor) 'phone picture (sorry.) - 2951XXX
Very cool... I had to do a double take there for a moment - meters first (mk2?) AND a feet first (mk4?).
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Old 10 June 2020, 06:17 AM   #647
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Very cool... I had to do a double take there for a moment - meters first (mk2?) AND a feet first (mk4?).


I wear the Mk4 most days - which is why it's a little beaten up/scruffy.
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Old 12 June 2020, 01:38 PM   #648
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Picked this up at a Japanese vintage dealer for my partner, serial is 2,89x,xxx

sadly RSC Japan replaced the bezel and hands, and a VERY deep chip on the 1 oclock mark, so wearing it a bit more cautious than other watches.

Oh btw, this dealer have a pretty cool Vintage Rolex museum in Tokyo http://www.quarkmuseum.com/ if you ever visit japan.
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Old 12 June 2020, 02:42 PM   #649
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Old 12 June 2020, 08:15 PM   #650
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It's there on the papers.

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Old 13 June 2020, 07:19 PM   #652
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Old 14 June 2020, 05:52 AM   #653
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#3741XXX but do not have a good picture yet.
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Old 14 June 2020, 10:21 AM   #654
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It's there on the papers.

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Old 18 September 2020, 07:44 PM   #656
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Congrats! Very nice pick up. What’s the date stamp on the case back?

Congrats on this new addition! FYI, 1972 was the last year the case backs were stamped with the year.
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Old 18 September 2020, 08:00 PM   #657
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Old 19 September 2020, 03:41 PM   #658
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Old 19 September 2020, 08:46 PM   #659
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Beautiful! Red is popping on that mark 4 and I see the open 9 & 6 in the shot
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Old 19 September 2020, 08:47 PM   #660
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Beautiful patina and nice ghost insert on that one.
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