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JasonBetts · 24 March 2021, 05:31 PM

I was offered this piece. 5mil series.

Case is OK, lugs are still thick and balanced but polished, overall case condition is OK but nothing to write home about.

Dial is a bit worrying for me. It's guaranteed genuine as it's opened by my watchmaker but problem is, it looked brand spanking new. A bit off considering the conditions of the case. I've seen a dial this condition but in an almost NOS watch example.

could it be a service matte dial, if there's such thing back then?

What's your take on what may seemed to be the story for this pristine dial.

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borango · 24 March 2021, 05:37 PM

Put a photo with hands at 9:15 (seconds hand not covering text on the dial) and a bit more close up.

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sfc rick · 25 March 2021, 02:58 AM

Looks like my service dail.

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OliverD · 25 March 2021, 11:43 PM

Looks like a genuine mark III dial to me. I can't see anything wrong with the dial lume based on those photos. Hands could be later but hard to tell.

Kingface66 · 25 March 2021, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sfc rick

Looks like my service dail.

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Sweet watch, but the alignment of your service dial fonts are all slightly different than the OPs.

JasonBetts · 26 March 2021, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by borango

Put a photo with hands at 9:15 (seconds hand not covering text on the dial) and a bit more close up.

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Sorry can't get more photos at this stage as I haven't pulled the trigger on this.

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JasonBetts · 26 March 2021, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

Sweet watch, but the alignment of your service dial fonts are all slightly different than the OPs.

You may be right. My watchmaker didn't believe it's a service dial too. It looks legit but problem is it looks too clean for the overall conditions of the remaining watch

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springer · 26 March 2021, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonBetts

You may be right. My watchmaker didn't believe it's a service dial too. It looks legit but problem is it looks too clean for the overall conditions of the remaining watch

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The dial on your watch appears to be the "toothpaste-looking" service dial.

XavierM · 26 March 2021, 08:59 AM

I see an Mk3 dial. Only version where the C of « Certified » is not exactly below the H of « Chronometer » but slightly right. Plus the angle of the F in « Ft »
Not an expert on how the lume should age but not the first time I see a « Snow White » dial.
I would not disqualify it without further inspection (good macros, lume shot)

Dan S · 26 March 2021, 09:37 AM

It would be more attractive to me with a bit more color on the lume. Sometimes personal appeal is as important as the technical details of originality, etc.

JasonBetts · 26 March 2021, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

It would be more attractive to me with a bit more color on the lume. Sometimes personal appeal is as important as the technical details of originality, etc.

Exactly right Dan. If the dial aged just a bit, this watch would make sense. It's just too clean and white

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24 March 2021, 05:31 PM	#1
JasonBetts "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Indonesia Posts: 423	1680 White Sub. How can a matte dial be too clean? I was offered this piece. 5mil series. Case is OK, lugs are still thick and balanced but polished, overall case condition is OK but nothing to write home about. Dial is a bit worrying for me. It's guaranteed genuine as it's opened by my watchmaker but problem is, it looked brand spanking new. A bit off considering the conditions of the case. I've seen a dial this condition but in an almost NOS watch example. could it be a service matte dial, if there's such thing back then? What's your take on what may seemed to be the story for this pristine dial. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 March 2021, 08:59 AM	#9
XavierM "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris, France Posts: 367	I see an Mk3 dial. Only version where the C of « Certified » is not exactly below the H of « Chronometer » but slightly right. Plus the angle of the F in « Ft » Not an expert on how the lume should age but not the first time I see a « Snow White » dial. I would not disqualify it without further inspection (good macros, lume shot) __________________ Instagram: @vert_eternel

26 March 2021, 09:37 AM	#10
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,983	It would be more attractive to me with a bit more color on the lume. Sometimes personal appeal is as important as the technical details of originality, etc. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

24 March 2021, 05:37 PM	#2
borango "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: USA Posts: 79	Put a photo with hands at 9:15 (seconds hand not covering text on the dial) and a bit more close up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 March 2021, 02:58 AM	#3
sfc rick "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Rickey Higgins Location: Huntington, TX Watch: 1680 Sub in white Posts: 354	Looks like my service dail. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

25 March 2021, 11:43 PM	#4
OliverD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: UK Posts: 68	Looks like a genuine mark III dial to me. I can't see anything wrong with the dial lume based on those photos. Hands could be later but hard to tell.

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