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Old 12 November 2021, 05:08 AM   #31
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Chronometre Bleu with NO PAPERS at Sotheby's yesterday:

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...p_lolist___47_

$88,200 CHF + premium
88.2 chf includes the buyers premium. The seller will net 60k chf, minus other various fees (shipping, cleaning etc).
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Old 12 November 2021, 07:24 AM   #32
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I was more impressed by the Tokyo edition...

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...tuelle-limited

252k CHF including premium...

But perhaps this is the new normal for limited edition FPJ?!

However, I do agree that CB and basic CS are not taking off at auction...
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Old 12 November 2021, 09:03 AM   #33
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I was more impressed by the Tokyo edition...

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...tuelle-limited

252k CHF including premium...

But perhaps this is the new normal for limited edition FPJ?!

However, I do agree that CB and basic CS are not taking off at auction...
Just a week before:

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...okyo-a-limited

2,268,000 HKD ~ $291k USD all-in.
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Old 12 November 2021, 09:04 AM   #34
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However, I do agree that CB and basic CS are not taking off at auction...
Yes they are.

Just not ones with no box, no papers, no nothing.

A $25k watch with no box, no papers, nothing at all, going for $95k USD is the definition of "taking off."
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Old 12 November 2021, 10:17 AM   #35
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I was more impressed by the Tokyo edition...

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...tuelle-limited

252k CHF including premium...

But perhaps this is the new normal for limited edition FPJ?!

However, I do agree that CB and basic CS are not taking off at auction...
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Just a week before:

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...okyo-a-limited

2,268,000 HKD ~ $291k USD all-in.
Oh jeez! I hadn't been looking at auction results or following the market for these. I guess I should be pretty happy, but I find these prices kind of disturbing.

A digression from prices, to say something about the actual watch. The perpetual calendar is displayed in a cool way here. See the pic below. Notice the month display says "3FE." The are actually 4 different February displays -- 1FE, 2FE, 3FE, and BFE (BFE is the leap year).

Now, on the left side of case, you see a button with a slide above it. The slide unlocks the button (to prevent accidental pushing), and the button advances the month. The crown controls the other setting feature: After the crown is pulled out, rotating it upwards advances only the day, while rotating it downwards advances both the day and the date. So that's how you set it.

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Old 12 November 2021, 11:18 AM   #36
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Remember the days when watches weren't skyrocketing like Bitcoin of Shiba Inu?
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Old 12 November 2021, 11:10 PM   #37
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Remember the days when watches weren't skyrocketing like Bitcoin of Shiba Inu?

Back in my day 5980s were case fodder and everyone knew you didn’t buy AP from the boutique because they charged full price

Get off my lawn!
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Old 12 November 2021, 11:19 PM   #38
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Yes they are.

Just not ones with no box, no papers, no nothing.

A $25k watch with no box, no papers, nothing at all, going for $95k USD is the definition of "taking off."
Point taken. I had not framed it correctly.

Regarding the Tokyo Edition Octa Calendrier, there is another one coming up at auction in late November at Phillips HK:
https://www.phillips.com/detail/fp-journe/HK080221/945

There is also one for sale at acollectedman with a full titanium bracelet - asking price 318k USD
https://www.acollectedman.com/collec...tion-titanium#

For the record, I find the titanium/rose gold combination fantastic and I would be delighted to own any one of the Tokyo watches.
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Old 13 November 2021, 01:06 AM   #39
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Back in my day 5980s were case fodder and everyone knew you didn’t buy AP from the boutique because they charged full price

Get off my lawn!

I find myself using this line more and more as I get older !



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Old 13 November 2021, 07:21 AM   #40
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For those interested (and in the area), FP will be at the NYC boutique tomorrow for a small event from 5:00 to 7:00pm.
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Old 13 November 2021, 08:47 AM   #41
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For those interested (and in the area), FP will be at the NYC boutique tomorrow for a small event from 5:00 to 7:00pm.
Guess it's VVIP only?
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Old 13 November 2021, 08:48 AM   #42
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Guess it's VVIP only?
No. I was offered an invite despite never having purchased a watch. Unsure if you can just walk in, but if interested in sure calling the boutique would secure an invite.
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Old 14 November 2021, 09:42 AM   #43
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There is also one for sale at acollectedman with a full titanium bracelet - asking price 318k USD
https://www.acollectedman.com/collec...tion-titanium#
It's even worse than $318k USD.

It's priced in GBP, so it fluctuates (£238,000 GBP). A few days ago it was at $326k USD.
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Old 14 November 2021, 11:56 AM   #44
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Interesting seeing 5 of the 99 Octa Perpetuelle Tokyo watches for sale in recent months, when you never used to see them come up for sale.
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Old 14 November 2021, 01:22 PM   #45
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That's usually what happens when prices across the board are over-inflated.
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Old 15 November 2021, 01:50 AM   #46
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considering Journe is making just 800 watches a year, and every year, more people are realising this brands' existence, the demand will only get higher and higher.
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Old 15 November 2021, 01:56 AM   #47
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Interesting seeing 5 of the 99 Octa Perpetuelle Tokyo watches for sale in recent months, when you never used to see them come up for sale.
Same for the CB. Not long ago, you would see maybe 1 or 2 for sale at a time. Chrono24 has 13 listed right now.
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Old 15 November 2021, 02:59 AM   #48
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Interesting seeing 5 of the 99 Octa Perpetuelle Tokyo watches for sale in recent months, when you never used to see them come up for sale.
Yea. I noticed this as well.
Will be interesting to see whether prices stay high or deflate in the coming November/December auctions.

Regardless, I still think that the titanium/rose gold is a beautiful combo...
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Old 28 November 2021, 05:24 AM   #49
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Looks like...the auction price for an Octa Calendrier Tokyo Edition is now firmly in the
270k-290k USD, inclusive of buyer's premium, but net of sales tax/VAT and possibly import duties.

I really thought that last month's results were a "fluke"...

https://www.phillips.com/detail/fp-journe/HK080221/945
https://www.christies.com/lot/lot-63...ssummary&lid=1

By contrast...finally some softness in the non-limited edition models
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