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SteveHao · 17 December 2022, 06:09 AM

Hello everyone, I found that the font on the 1803 Buckley dial is odd. The dash in the middle of the Day Date looks like the letter "I", The back looks like it has been recently treated, the color of the scar is too new, but other place is quite beautiful, is this dial a reprint?

I've googled and it seems like some dials look like this too? But because the resolution of the pictures on the Internet is not good, it is difficult to identify, I would like to ask for your help.

SteveHao · 17 December 2022, 06:18 AM

Help!

KY.. · 17 December 2022, 06:33 AM

I do not believe it is a reprinted dial as it looks authentic.
I have one that is identical down to the font styles including the dash between Day-Date.

SteveHao · 17 December 2022, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KY..

I do not believe it is a reprinted dial as it looks authentic.
I have one that is identical down to the font styles including the dash between Day-Date.

many thanks, I can let go of the stone in my heart

But I still have a question, the reprints traces on the back looks new , how could this be?

KY.. · 17 December 2022, 07:24 AM

My dial is old and beat up around the edges so I don’t know for sure if it was ever played with.
I would think both yours and mine would have to have been reprinted by the exact same person if they are not authentic though.
The dial fonts look the same from the photos.

crowncollection · 17 December 2022, 07:46 AM

Looks original

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zapokee · 17 December 2022, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KY..

I do not believe it is a reprinted dial as it looks authentic.
I have one that is identical down to the font styles including the dash between Day-Date.

Agree.

Dan S · 17 December 2022, 11:38 AM

Dial feet broken?

miamiclay · 17 December 2022, 01:10 PM

I would suspect that the reason for the new-looking spot is that on a Buckley, the only “furniture” is the coronet, so that is the only place on the back which was ever ground at the factory. The rest of the brass still has its original oxidation (or scale or whatever).

KY.. · 17 December 2022, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

Dial feet broken?

No the Pie Pan dials for early 1800 Day-Date 1555/1556 movements did not have dial feet as they had a snug fit around the circumference of the movement and was only stabilized once the movement got mounted inside the case.

joli160 · 18 December 2022, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHao

many thanks, I can let go of the stone in my heart

But I still have a question, the reprints traces on the back looks new , how could this be?

You got a positive opinion from one of the most knowledgable DayDate experts there is. Stop worrying

TuRo · 18 December 2022, 06:41 PM

Everything fine. Pregnant lower paint on ends of Roman numerals is well shown on your macro photo. Usual feint dial spotting is apparent and the obligatory lume plot dissapearance is also common - and best if all in-situ or none in-situ ✓

17 December 2022, 06:09 AM	#1
SteveHao "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Taiwan Posts: 22	About 1803 Buckley dial's front Hello everyone, I found that the font on the 1803 Buckley dial is odd. The dash in the middle of the Day Date looks like the letter "I", The back looks like it has been recently treated, the color of the scar is too new, but other place is quite beautiful, is this dial a reprint? I've googled and it seems like some dials look like this too? But because the resolution of the pictures on the Internet is not good, it is difficult to identify, I would like to ask for your help.

17 December 2022, 06:33 AM	#3
KY.. 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Real Name: Keith Location: California Watch: 60s to 90s Posts: 1,269	I do not believe it is a reprinted dial as it looks authentic. I have one that is identical down to the font styles including the dash between Day-Date. __________________ Just an admirer/enthusiast of vintage Rolex/Heuer/Zenith/Breitling/Hamilton watches since the 80’s… ”I Do Love The Details, But I Can Choose If I Accept The Flaws…”

17 December 2022, 07:24 AM	#5
KY.. 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Real Name: Keith Location: California Watch: 60s to 90s Posts: 1,269	My dial is old and beat up around the edges so I don’t know for sure if it was ever played with. I would think both yours and mine would have to have been reprinted by the exact same person if they are not authentic though. The dial fonts look the same from the photos. __________________ Just an admirer/enthusiast of vintage Rolex/Heuer/Zenith/Breitling/Hamilton watches since the 80’s… ”I Do Love The Details, But I Can Choose If I Accept The Flaws…”

17 December 2022, 07:46 AM	#6
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,168	Looks original Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

17 December 2022, 11:38 AM	#8
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,007	Dial feet broken? __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

17 December 2022, 06:18 AM	#2
SteveHao "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Taiwan Posts: 22	Help!

17 December 2022, 01:10 PM	#9
miamiclay 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: 33139/95460 Posts: 1,328	I would suspect that the reason for the new-looking spot is that on a Buckley, the only “furniture” is the coronet, so that is the only place on the back which was ever ground at the factory. The rest of the brass still has its original oxidation (or scale or whatever).

18 December 2022, 06:41 PM	#12
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,631	Everything fine. Pregnant lower paint on ends of Roman numerals is well shown on your macro photo. Usual feint dial spotting is apparent and the obligatory lume plot dissapearance is also common - and best if all in-situ or none in-situ ✓ __________________ How many times have I been downhearted Looked up and see him smiling like a shiny dime And hoped that he would stay and tell me Why he was so happy if he had the time Everybody Gets To Go To The Moon - Jimmy Webb

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