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Old 6 January 2023, 09:57 AM   #1
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Trade 5146g, cream dial for new 5226?

I have the opportunity to get a brand new 5226g if I trade my 5146g (box, papers) , plus $. Questions... I love the new calatrava and, though I love the 5146g, I don't wear it as much as I used to. Would you do the trade and How much $ do you think is fair to add.? They are currently asking for 20k to add. This seems excessive to me . I appreciate the wisdom of this forum, thanks.

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Old 6 January 2023, 10:49 AM   #2
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I really like the 5226.

Here’s what I saw on watchbox:
5146g, two models, $35k and $37k
5226g for $57k

If you were to sell the 5146 to a dealer, probably wouldn’t get $35k…

Idk. $20k to get the 5226 doesn’t seem so bad.

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Old 6 January 2023, 11:50 AM   #3
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mid to low 20s for 5146 seems low but they've never been strong. I do it the opposite way, I say would I buy a 5146 for that price if offered. if the desire for the watch isn't strong enough to move the needle to get it cheap then I get rid of it.
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Old 6 January 2023, 12:04 PM   #4
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Great point, however, it's a chance for me to get a 5226, new, at list. Tough call. Love that textured dial.

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Old 6 January 2023, 06:27 PM   #5
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Although I really like my 5226 I definitely don’t think it’s worth 57k! I’d try to get one from an AD if I were you. Can’t imagine the wait would be outrageous. Maybe 6 months?


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Old 6 January 2023, 09:52 PM   #6
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Although I really like my 5226 I definitely don’t think it’s worth 57k! I’d try to get one from an AD if I were you. Can’t imagine the wait would be outrageous. Maybe 6 months?


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That's the issue... It is from an AD. In order to get the next available 5226 they want the 5146 in trade, however, they will only give me $20k for the 5146.,. I guess I could sell it privately for over 30k and just wait.

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Old 6 January 2023, 10:17 PM   #7
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5226 is not a $57,000 watch. 5146 is arguably one of the best proportioned watched Patek makes
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Old 6 January 2023, 10:52 PM   #8
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That's the issue... It is from an AD. In order to get the next available 5226 they want the 5146 in trade, however, they will only give me $20k for the 5146.,. I guess I could sell it privately for over 30k and just wait.

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Ah ok…then it indeed really comes down to how much you want it and how patient you are. Otherwise you could also try another AD if there is one maybe?


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Old 6 January 2023, 11:07 PM   #9
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No way.
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Old 6 January 2023, 11:09 PM   #10
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I'd try and sell the 5146 elsewhere, perhaps here. Then get on an AD list for a 5226. It may be a longer wait
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Old 6 January 2023, 11:34 PM   #11
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I'd try and sell the 5146 elsewhere, perhaps here. Then get on an AD list for a 5226. It may be a longer wait
That, I believe, is the best plan. The 5226 should be available... If I'm patient ;)

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Old 7 January 2023, 01:31 AM   #12
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That, I believe, is the best plan. The 5226 should be available... If I'm patient ;)

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My AD gave me a 2+ year wait on the 5226. Went gray (but for considerably less than 57).
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Old 7 January 2023, 01:41 AM   #13
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If the 5146 has outlasted its welcome, for $57K or more all-in for the 5226, I'd much rather leapfrog up the high horology food chain and get a pre-owned 5170 for a few bucks more.

Or looked at another way, if you had $57K in your pocket right now to spend on a piece, would you buy the 5226 or buy something else?
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Old 7 January 2023, 01:42 AM   #14
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they must have a buyer already for the 5146, never heard of a dealer demanding one.
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Old 7 January 2023, 02:52 AM   #15
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As someone who previously owned an AC timepiece (not 5146), I always thought the complication is not as fancy as I originally thought and that a date only Calatrava will do. And 5226g has such an amazing dial with its gradient texture Leica-like dial that it’s a no brainer to get one.

As to the price, the 5146 did not have a strong price positioning and resale value hence an added 20k seems to be not that too bad, as opined also by another forum member.


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Old 7 January 2023, 03:36 AM   #16
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No way, annual calendar for a calatrava
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Old 7 January 2023, 03:42 AM   #17
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The 5146 is such a classic, now discontinued model, but, I agree, the uniqueness of the 5226's case style, lug style, dial, hands, just speaks to me more at this time. I wonder what success I would have selling here... I've always used C24.. Thoughts?

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Old 7 January 2023, 05:00 AM   #18
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Somehow an extra $20k seems way too much for me. Unless you are so in love with the admittedly great 5226 I’d wait for one from the AD. Or might trade under retail soon I could have sworn that it sold somewhere for 35k - someone posted it here


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If the 5146 has outlasted its welcome, for $57K or more all-in for the 5226, I'd much rather leapfrog up the high horology food chain and get a pre-owned 5170 for a few bucks more.

Or looked at another way, if you had $57K in your pocket right now to spend on a piece, would you buy the 5226 or buy something else?
This. For 55-60k there are a number of Pateks I’d rather have than a time only Calatrava. Think 5235G, 5960P or G, 5205G, 5396G etc. And if you can stretch slightly there’s 5170 or 5172…
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Old 7 January 2023, 05:33 AM   #20
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I really like the 5226.

Here’s what I saw on watchbox:
5146g, two models, $35k and $37k
5226g for $57k

If you were to sell the 5146 to a dealer, probably wouldn’t get $35k…

Idk. $20k to get the 5226 doesn’t seem so bad.

Good luck!
A 5226 actually sold on moda for right around retail. This is a 40k watch I think.
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Old 7 January 2023, 05:46 AM   #21
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This. For 55-60k there are a number of Pateks I’d rather have than a time only Calatrava. Think 5235G, 5960P or G, 5205G, 5396G etc. And if you can stretch slightly there’s 5170 or 5172…
Why do be folks keep saying the 5226 is "time only"?

It does have a date complication.
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Old 7 January 2023, 08:48 AM   #22
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Why do be folks keep saying the 5226 is "time only"?

It does have a date complication.
Speaking about the date, sadly the black date window breaks the harmony of the beige hour numbers on the 5226.

That said, I very much like the case and have been warming up to the dial as well. I'd certainly prefer the 5226 over the 5146 whose dial looks quite messy in my eyes (unlike, for example, the 3940 dial which I find harmonious and balanced).

Would I pay the equivalent of USD 50+k for a 5226? Hell no. I find its MSRP already substantially too high for what it is.
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Old 7 January 2023, 11:27 AM   #23
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A 5226 actually sold on moda for right around retail. This is a 40k watch I think.
Really? Interesting. DavidSW has one for close to $57k I think.
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Really? Interesting. DavidSW has one for close to $57k I think.
Yeah I just looked up the sale. It went for 44k. That was in November. Haven’t seen once since but the market has gotten softer since then. I’m waiting for a 5226g from an AD. No intention to resell but I would definitely expect to lose money on that one if I ever sold it after buying at retail. It’s just a Calatrava after all. I don’t think there’s historically ever been a Calatrava that stayed consistently above retail.
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Yeah I just looked up the sale. It went for 44k. That was in November. Haven’t seen once since but the market has gotten softer since then. I’m waiting for a 5226g from an AD. No intention to resell but I would definitely expect to lose money on that one if I ever sold it after buying at retail. It’s just a Calatrava after all. I don’t think there’s historically ever been a Calatrava that stayed consistently above retail.
Agree. $57k is high.

It’s a great piece. Hope you get yours sooner than later. Good luck!
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A 5226 actually sold on moda for right around retail. This is a 40k watch I think.
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Really? Interesting. DavidSW has one for close to $57k I think.
Once in a while I check out DSW and Takuya's offerings, even though I'm not in the market for anything. It's like some of their inventory is priced like it's 2021 and some is more in line with today. Takuya has a 4 year old platinum Daytona right now for over $150k, while I saw a new or like new one on Moda for slightly under $100k in the last week or two. DSW's prices have seemed also to be substantially higher than Moda's B&P offerings. I don't know if they now negotiate 20%+ from their ask, or they just don't sell anything, or whether there are buyers that pay these prices. Any of the above is ok with me, but it seems like some of their inventory doesn't reflect any of the market forces of the last year, and some does.
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Old 7 January 2023, 11:39 PM   #27
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I think the 5226 is a great new reference that appeals to many in the pp family. That said, I agree, it will likely settle in the low 40's as the supply increases. No way I would pay mid 50's at this time. If I could get low 30's for my 5146 then I'd for sure make the trade. The "big brother" AC calatrava would be my favorite but out of my price range at this time. I'm going to try it on today, will post a pic.

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Old 8 January 2023, 03:35 AM   #28
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In person, I agree, the dial is amazing, fits so well on my 6.6 in wrist. Definitely on my list.!

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In person, I agree, the dial is amazing, fits so well on my 6.6 in wrist. Definitely on my list.!

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Were you able to try it on at an AD? I was in an AD that had one as an exhibition piece but I couldn’t even touch it lol. The manager just brought it out of the case still in its plastic with white gloves on to look at.

I will say it looks way more interesting in person. Didn’t really have much interest in it until seeing it in the metal.
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Very sharp.

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