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Old 15 March 2023, 07:51 PM   #31
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Hamburg over Berlin. Surprised but not surprised at the same time...
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Old 15 March 2023, 07:59 PM   #32
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there is also a House opening up in LA. not sure if it's supposed to replace BH or not
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Old 16 March 2023, 12:35 AM   #33
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Surprised that no one else has mentioned this up to now but there’s a new AP House opening in the North of England.


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Old 16 March 2023, 04:01 AM   #34
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Is that Manchester Ash? Now you’ve posted this I’m thinking someone at AP House told me this
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Old 16 March 2023, 06:15 AM   #35
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Nothing in the SF Bay Area? Don’t understand that one given the amount of money there
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Old 16 March 2023, 02:53 PM   #36
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I just visited AP House in NY few weeks ago, really nice.
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Old 16 March 2023, 03:02 PM   #37
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Nothing in the SF Bay Area? Don’t understand that one given the amount of money there
I know right? I found that strange as well.
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Old 16 March 2023, 07:14 PM   #38
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Hamburg over Berlin. Surprised but not surprised at the same time...
I think they choose Hamburg for the customers from Denmark.
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Old 16 March 2023, 07:28 PM   #39
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Is that Manchester Ash? Now you’ve posted this I’m thinking someone at AP House told me this

Yes Manchester, I’ll still buy from AP House in London though.


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Old 18 March 2023, 03:55 AM   #40
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Somewhat related question. My home boutique is an AP/Material Good joint venture location. I recently traveled internationally and visited an AP House. I was just planning to check it out but they offered me a watch and I jumped at the opportunity. Would this affect me negatively at my home boutique? I had thought that AP was one umbrella so to speak so it wouldn't necessarily matter where you purchased from but the joint venture nature of my hole boutique is making me second guess.
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Old 19 March 2023, 03:00 AM   #41
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Can you tell us any more news?
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Old 19 March 2023, 03:37 AM   #42
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AP House in meatpacking district in NYC. Nondescript small AP at single door leads to a rather grand AP House above an Italian restaurant. Almost like a speakeasy entrance.




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Old 19 March 2023, 04:02 AM   #43
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Somewhat related question. My home boutique is an AP/Material Good joint venture location. I recently traveled internationally and visited an AP House. I was just planning to check it out but they offered me a watch and I jumped at the opportunity. Would this affect me negatively at my home boutique? I had thought that AP was one umbrella so to speak so it wouldn't necessarily matter where you purchased from but the joint venture nature of my hole boutique is making me second guess.
Wondering the same. What piece did you get offered?
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Old 19 March 2023, 06:49 AM   #44
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I think they choose Hamburg for the customers from Denmark.
Cities with the highest number of UHNWI in Germany:
Munich - Frankfurt - Hamburg
Cities with AP Houses/Boutiques:
Munich - Frankfurt - (soon) Hamburg

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Old 22 March 2023, 12:11 PM   #45
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Wondering the same. What piece did you get offered?
It was an Offshore 26420RO. I think I've convinced myself that it shouldn't hurt me but maybe someone else knows more.
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Old 24 March 2023, 09:10 AM   #46
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20% of these are retailers/ADs. I don't expect same amount of pieces towards them.
USA is the biggest market with 30% share so they will get more pieces compared to Europe or Middle East.

This is false. If you break up the world into Americas, Asia and Europe, Asia gets the lions share with only 15% making it to the Americas.

“Flagships” will always get quite a bite more (AP House London, AP Paris, AP houses HK, AP House Tokyo, etc). AP Mykonos or Venice will get substantially less


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Old 24 March 2023, 09:33 AM   #47
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Marcus Rashford mentioned this to me last week actually…
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Old 24 March 2023, 09:43 AM   #48
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This is false. If you break up the world into Americas, Asia and Europe, Asia gets the lions share with only 15% making it to the Americas.

“Flagships” will always get quite a bite more (AP House London, AP Paris, AP houses HK, AP House Tokyo, etc). AP Mykonos or Venice will get substantially less


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USA/North America is the number one market for AP!
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Old 24 March 2023, 09:52 AM   #49
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USA/North America is the number one market for AP!
I really feel like it's truly Japan, especially with all these special editions they make for this small market
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Old 24 March 2023, 09:53 AM   #50
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USA/North America is the number one market for AP!
But in terms of "regions" it was 11% Middle East, 16% Americas, 33% Europe and 40% Asia in 2020.
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Old 24 March 2023, 09:58 AM   #51
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Yep, in Manchester which will be a joint venture with WoS.
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Old 24 March 2023, 10:07 AM   #52
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Yep, in Manchester which will be a joint venture with WoS.
No disrespect, but are you sure about that?
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Old 25 March 2023, 05:39 AM   #53
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USA/North America is the number one market for AP!
Yeah... no.

Not sure why some people believe that actually.

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But in terms of "regions" it was 11% Middle East, 16% Americas, 33% Europe and 40% Asia in 2020.
Exactly.

Asia is way bigger, specially if we count Middle East too, and well Europe as a whole gets also a lot more than America.
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Old 25 March 2023, 06:07 AM   #54
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I really feel like it's truly Japan, especially with all these special editions they make for this small market
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But in terms of "regions" it was 11% Middle East, 16% Americas, 33% Europe and 40% Asia in 2020.
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Yeah... no.

Not sure why some people believe that actually.


Exactly.

Asia is way bigger, specially if we count Middle East too, and well Europe as a whole gets also a lot more than America.
Here is info directly from FHB:
https://swisswatches-magazine.com/bl...ry-bennahmias/ - Q3, interview is a bit older from 3 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skRlBWlOPYE&t=2014s - 5 months ago, 33:20, in French but subtitles are available

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHx8fdShDWE&t=674s - 8 months ago, 10:54, in French but subtitles are available

Region wise, Asia and Europe are probably bigger, but per county - USA is number one.
That's also obvious with the number of boutiques / houses, there are zero boutiques in Canada and South America.
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Old 25 March 2023, 08:47 AM   #55
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Was told this by WoS and by AP.
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Old 25 March 2023, 09:29 AM   #56
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Surprising to see Toronto sixth largest city in North America has none. Am I missing something here
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Old 25 March 2023, 09:55 AM   #57
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Was told this by WoS and by AP.
Being told by WoS makes a degree of sense but given AP closed down their franchise agreement last year it makes no sense at all that they’ve started a new contract 3 months later.

Do you have a direct source at AP please?
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Surprising to see Toronto sixth largest city in North America has none. Am I missing something here
even more surprising for Canada overall, looking at its ranking in terms of total number of UHNWI in the country (more than e.g., Japan, if Google is to be believed). Elsewhere AP seems to follow the money with their boutique locations, but somehow Canada is SOL.
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Old 25 March 2023, 11:23 AM   #59
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Being told by WoS makes a degree of sense but given AP closed down their franchise agreement last year it makes no sense at all that they’ve started a new contract 3 months later.

Do you have a direct source at AP please?

Ask AP house when you’re next in.
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