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Unique AD practice in Japan ?
When buying a new Rolex from an AD in Japan they do not give you the hang tag with your purchase. It's proudly displayed when the watch is presented to you (for showing the price) then "confiscated" after making the purchase. I was told they have to send it back to the head office. In addition, they also will not give you the white sleeve which protects the Rolex box. Opposite from my US purchase experience. I'm just curious if any other markets do this or have other unique rules when buying a Rolex?
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yeah, I bought a used Rolex that was from JPN, it didn't come with the hang tag.
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Correct, and not only in Japan. Some ADs keep it for inventory, other don't. That's what i've heard and experienced.
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The outer white box sleeve is also normally withheld. Point-of-sale presentation is very important in Japan, even small inexpensive items will be nicely wrapped. For luxury items, it can be almost ceremonial in procedure. Grand Seiko outer sleeves have printing on them telling the sales person to remove before sale, though you can still ask for it, I guess, as you see them with used watches sometimes.
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Same here, quite common everywhere
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Neither are provided at the Taiwan AD I've worked with.
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Depends on the dealer and sometimes the SA. If you are referring to the white tag, it's not supposed to be supplied with the watch but often is. The green tag should accompany the watch.
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Seems to vary, it's not an official decree from Rolex in Geneva but some of their affiliates have their own "rules". Very silly imo.
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Yes, I'm referring to the white tag with the price and model number (dial number). In Japan they give you the green tag. They also have to return all the stickers to the Japan HQ as well. However they did this in the US as well so probably not a Japan "rule".
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My other experience was purchasing a SS YM in Bangkok. The AD kept the bezel protector , said they have to return it to HQ with the sticker protectors. But the white tag was given to me. That was the 1st time where I came across bezel protectors wasn't given.
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Neither in europe gives the white tag, only the green rolex hangtag. and neither the whitesleeve for the outer box as well, i believe it is policy from RL HQ to recommend AD to ensure people to avoid resell their watches with fullset.
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Tokyo AD posted my serial card to me a month after purchase. (I was living in Japan then).
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I use 2 A/D’s here in the US. 1 gives me everything including the white tag and the other gives me everything except the white tag.
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FWIW as a data point, I got the white tag and the outer sleeve here in the US last week; the AD had already removed some of the stickers that would be in the way of viewing the watch during initial presentation when first opening the box (top of bracelet, side of case I believe), but a couple other stickers were still on it when I took it out (clasp and one other, don't remember which). I took one of the stickers off and stuck it on the white styrofoam, which I still have, and then the AD removed the other sticker when they sized it and presumably tossed it. I didn't get the bezel protector or coffin, but I didn't ask for them either and the bezel protector was presumably removed for the same reason as some of the stickers - for initial presentation reasons.
I don't care about the stickers/coffin/bezel protector, but would not really like not getting the white tag or white outer sleeve, especially since I now have those items for one watch...would like to be consistent. However if I lived somewhere where policy was to not give X/Y/Z then I would be ok as long as it was consistently enforced. Seems odd to me that a country like Japan, where presentation really is everything, would be one country where you don't get the outer sleeve. |
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Of the 3 ADs I have used in Australia, one of them keeps the hang tag as well. The others do not. I do find it strange. If you were to resell a watch, Surry the hang tag would make almost no difference to a buyer.
I’m not bothered by it though, they can keep all the tanks they want as long as I get the pieces I want. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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All A.D does different things.some will give the hangtags some don’t.some give you the bezel protector some don’t.Some give gifts some don’t.There is no standard procedure
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In México they break the white hang tag and take a picture with the stickers
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When I purchased my Explorer I just recently, the AD said it's a new Rolex new policy to keep the white tags, as we as to remove the stickers.
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My new watch just arrived, white tag and bezel protector in the box.
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I always liked the outer sleeve. Keeps the box together. The box looks somewhat naked without it. Actually, the box looks better in it.
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I really feel your pain of not getting imaginary full set stuff. For the future - someone should ask for a shipping box watch came to a dealer. That would make your experience whole.
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Unique AD practice in Japan ?
I’ve never had the white hangtag our outer box sleeve withheld.
The white hangtag (and receipt, if descriptive) are your only way of proving the original dial that came with your watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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My US based AD always withholds the outer white box sleeve but always includes the white hang tag.
I want the white hangtag (especially if it’s a rare dial like a meteorite) but could not care less about the outer sleeve. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Every AD is different. Four purchases from three AD's in Canada. Only 1 gave me the white tag and white cardboard sleeve (same AD) you are referring to. The other two AD's did not. In the end, I was appreciative to be allocated the watch!
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I've heard from my AD that the only sticker Rolex allows them to leave on is the small round one on the caseback, for the reason that the customer might want to keep that surface untouched for engraving purposes. He's a very straight forward guy, so I'm pretty sure that's right.
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It’s A D dependent.
Don’t believe for a second it’s “Rolex policy”. At not least in America. When my A D calls, and I say “when” rarely lol I get to keep everything. And it’s been this way on 10 or so over the years. Same A D for 11 years. The only thing they’ve ever changed is the stickers. Used to get to keep those too And I’m funny about my collection. I want every watch to have EVERYTHING. Both tags and the sleeve as well. On all of mine I write down the model number and warranty card date on the white sleeve so I know what box belongs to what watch…
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I have bought from two Japanese ADs. Both came with all stickers with white hangtags and no outer cardboard sleeves.
I was most impressed with Jackroads packaging and purchase experience as most Japanese retailers excel in this regard.
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