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13 February 2024, 01:14 AM | #33 | |
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"Is this just me not knowing enough or do you think their claim to not be true?" There shouldn't be an issue with people asking if a watch is unpolished or not. You are too sensitive. |
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13 February 2024, 01:20 AM | #34 | |
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You’re also confusing being “too sensitive” with having common decency. Anyways, good luck with your learning journey. |
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13 February 2024, 02:06 AM | #35 |
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And he also said “To the untrained eye it might not look good but to the trained eyes the watch is as described.”
It’s described as unpolished.
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13 February 2024, 05:15 AM | #37 |
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It looks like a nice case. The question really is - with all of the laser welding and refinishing of cases these days, does anyone really know what a NOS mint case would look like? It seem the consensus is, if it too good to be true, it probably is. How can you really trust a dealer that is trying to sell you something in their own interest anyway? They could say whatever they want about the originality of the watch if it helps them sell the watch faster and for more profit.
I would like to see someone compare and post a NOS watch and then see what everyone else here thinks. Does it exist? |
13 February 2024, 07:14 AM | #38 | |
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13 February 2024, 07:28 AM | #39 | |
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I agree with your understanding of using the word “unpolished”. 100%. |
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13 February 2024, 08:08 AM | #40 |
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Can I ask what the issue is around pumpkin? Is it the word to describe anything that isn’t white or is it something else?
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13 February 2024, 08:17 AM | #41 |
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Wouldn't it be nice to have some consistent grading scales that could be applied then referenced.
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13 February 2024, 08:47 AM | #42 |
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Never seen bevels run the full length of lug tip to crown?
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Are you still carving your Jack O' Lanterns out of turnips? :-)
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13 February 2024, 06:04 PM | #44 |
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This is perfectly fine IMO
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13 February 2024, 06:21 PM | #45 |
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The position of the Chamfers in relation to the lug hole does not wave a red flag for me on a 69 watch.
What surprises me is the sharpness of the CG compared to the condition of the bezel or the caseback. Bracelet seems to have more wear on the inside compared to the outside. Could have been partially restored at some point, could be a little build up with caseback and bezel coming from another watch to make this one look all period correct.
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I wasn’t implying this seller ever said the case was NOS. Only hypothetically speaking, if a dealer was to present a vintage watch as NOS (if such watch existed) - would you have a hard time believing given all the above?
My point is - does anyone know what “unpolished” or “NOS” cases would look like anymore? Is there a standard we should be comparing it to (aside from the watch pictures you see in old Rolex ads). |
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But your earlier question of.. “How can you really trust a dealer that is trying to sell you something in their own interest anyway? They could say whatever they want about the originality of the watch if it helps them sell the watch faster and for more profit.” ..is very myopic and implies that every dealer with a longstanding positive reputation is always trying to one-up their clients and screw them to the max on any given transaction. I don’t know if you’ve ever run a business, but this obviously isn’t a viable strategy for someone wanting to build anything meaningful. And you certainly don’t get several repeat clients that way. |
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I’m more of a 5th of November guy than fiddling around with vegetables.
But I would like to know if the over use of pumpkin is to do with describing something that isn’t or artificially changing appearance of lume plots. |
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Pumpkin-colored lume plots occur naturally, IMO. However, like many things that become trendy, "hype dealers" overuse the term. And there is some suspicion that some sellers have found a way to create the color artificially, although I really have no idea if that's true.
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Thanks for clearing that up. Both replies are interesting to hear.
Now back to polished/unpolished/never polished. Go!!! |
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