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Old 28 April 2024, 02:32 AM   #1
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Enamel world timer

Question for the ones that have a passion for the enamel world timers- do you know how often the "map" on the dial changes? I liked the previous iteration with the full world map, not the biggest fan of the Asia focus of the current iteration. Anyone have a guess when the next dial format might come?

What have the most recent ones been?

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Old 28 April 2024, 07:12 AM   #2
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If 5231 follows the course of 5131 both 5231R and P are still outstanding. So far each 5131 in all its 4 metals and the 5231J and G have each had a specific map. I don't think the next one should be more than 1 or 2 years away if they do release a 5231R and/or 5231P. Then again who knows what they are thinking these days.
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Old 28 April 2024, 04:59 PM   #3
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As mentioned, Patek change the view with each new iteration of the piece, but just to correct, none of them has ever had the whole world map.
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Old 29 April 2024, 03:11 AM   #4
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Very happy just learned this week My application was accepted and the 5231g is currently being shipped to the authorized retailer. Oceania and South Asia would not be my first choice, however, the enamel on this particular model appears to be much more vibrant than previous models. Will post when I pick up. Good luck to everyone.
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Old 29 April 2024, 06:20 AM   #5
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none of them has ever had the whole world map.
That was a very western world centric view of mine, appreciate the correction!

And thanks for the insight
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Old 29 April 2024, 08:25 AM   #6
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Not wanting to correct the experts, just asking, did the early Cottier-made references from the late forties not contain the whole World map?
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Old 29 April 2024, 10:40 AM   #7
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Not wanting to correct the experts, just asking, did the early Cottier-made references from the late forties not contain the whole World map?
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Old 29 April 2024, 12:56 PM   #8
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There was a pocket watch version with the entire world that went for auction but don't remember a wristwatch one
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Old 29 April 2024, 04:50 PM   #9
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There was a pocket watch version with the entire world that went for auction but don't remember a wristwatch one
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Old 29 April 2024, 04:59 PM   #10
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Like this?
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Old 29 April 2024, 05:09 PM   #11
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Sorry guys, that's not a World Time watch, it's just a watch with an enamel dial of the World.
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Old 30 April 2024, 01:31 AM   #12
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Sorry guys, that's not a World Time watch, it's just a watch with an enamel dial of the World.
Indeed. It is beautiful though.
As you said, there appear to be no complete maps of the World in PP WT wristwatches.
I believe this is the pocket watch referred to above:

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Old 5 June 2024, 07:12 AM   #13
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map enamel dial from ematelier

The best cloisonné map dial I have come across so far
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What is the general requirement for a 5231 application?
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Varies depending on location. In the UK I believe it's currently 10 new Pateks of which 5 have to be Grand Complications. That's the minimum required for the AD to submit an application on your behalf.

However I understand the 5231 series are easier to get than the 5131 series.
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What is the general requirement for a 5231 application?
Varies depending on location. In the UK I believe it's currently 10 new Pateks of which 5 have to be Grand Complications. That's the minimum required for the AD to submit an application on your behalf.

However I understand the 5231 series are easier to get than the 5131 series.
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Old 7 June 2024, 11:06 PM   #17
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Varies depending on location. In the UK I believe it's currently 10 new Pateks of which 5 have to be Grand Complications. That's the minimum required for the AD to submit an application on your behalf.

However I understand the 5231 series are easier to get than the 5131 series.
Thank you for the insight.
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Old 7 June 2024, 11:16 PM   #18
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Varies depending on location. In the UK I believe it's currently 10 new Pateks of which 5 have to be Grand Complications. That's the minimum required for the AD to submit an application on your behalf.

However I understand the 5231 series are easier to get than the 5131 series.
That is not the case, I have a friend who has 5231J and he does not own 10 Pateks and there are no grand complications in his collection.
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Old 7 June 2024, 11:30 PM   #19
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I am based in HK and just got my 5231G. I have 2 GC and a few others in a total number of 9 watches then I got my call from my AD .


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That is not the case, I have a friend who has 5231J and he does not own 10 Pateks and there are no grand complications in his collection.

100 that is simple not true - this requirement is simple way overstated with 10 pateks and including 5 grand comps


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Old 14 June 2024, 09:03 AM   #21
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That is not the case, I have a friend who has 5231J and he does not own 10 Pateks and there are no grand complications in his collection.
Thanks James. Perhaps you could ask your friend what the process involved for him to get the 5231J and let us know?
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