Black Ceramic Double Balance

[PAFG]

Thinking about buying the AP double balance black ceramic in the grey market. Any thoughts on durability of the full ceramic piece? Anyone actually ever scratch one? I know they can crack, but I haven't seen any that have been scratched up.

[Steele]

I have the Ceramic ROO with the rubber strap and wear it a lot and no issues for me and thats much larger than the RO DB

I have a Hublot all black ceramic and ITS SICK!!!! the shine off the black ceramic is amazing and I love wearing it

[mickyd329]

I have the DB CE. I wear it a lot and don't have any scratches yet.

[PAFG]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

I have the DB CE. I wear it a lot and don't have any scratches yet.

That's great, I got OCD with scratches on my other pieces.. but, probably shouldn't since it's a sign that I'm actually wearing them and not safe queens. Does the DB CE show any signs of wear?

[Audevache]

My wife has the 34mm black ceramic, and it is her most worn AP. The entire point of ceramic is that it doesn't scratch that easily, which I can confirm.

[private jet villain]

Not easy to scratch.

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by PAFG

That's great, I got OCD with scratches on my other pieces.. but, probably shouldn't since it's a sign that I'm actually wearing them and not safe queens. Does the DB CE show any signs of wear?

Mine shows no signs of wear at all. My wife's 34m CE also does not show any wear. She wears it the most and she has no wrist awareness. Her other AP's are pretty scratched up, but the CE is pristine.

[l_chissle]

Similar here. CE no scratches at all (although be careful with the titanium case back). Other AP's have a bunch of scratches that I have no idea where they came from.

[value.target]

CE doesn't scratch. However, if dropped, the whole watch/bracelet can fracture or break. It is just the nature of ceramic material.

not saying that it will happen...

[Andy0331]

I have the 44mm black ceramic ROO & don't have any scratches or chips. The only thing that makes me regularly nervous/cautious are the exposed edges of my kitchen countertops (with rustic/raw/unpolished edges). I know the ceramic is tough, but so is granite and I don't want to have them collide and see how it holds up to the abrasive edge.

Regardless, I've had it for ~7 years and haven't damaged it yet.

[AperolSpritz]

it won't scratch
mine is as good as new and been wearing it a lot over the last 2years. Swimming, to the gym, driving sports cars in GT races, etc.

[APhound]

I think you guys need to postsome pics of them for proof :)


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[Tomas Eriksson]

I own and been beating my 15707CE ceramic diver for 8 years and not a single scratch. I can for sure confirm it does not scratch from rubbing to anything metal. Also dinged it a couple of times against railings and not a scratch. Only scratches mine has are on the titanium back and buckle.
Can’t say the same about my steel RO or rose gold ROO…

[Steele]

Here are a few of my ceramic watches

I rock the Black Gold Beast in my rotation on the regular

[johnsonsxusfrt]

Go for it, it's a beautiful piece

[PAFG]

Originally Posted by johnsonsxusfrt

Go for it, it's a beautiful piece

I think I will, just contemplating waiting to see if a new double balance ceramic comes out soon. I also think there is a good amount of room for price to come down further on this one. AP market and rest of watch market is tanking. Most dealers won't even buy this piece for more than 160k unless you consign.

[Steele]

Originally Posted by PAFG

I think I will, just contemplating waiting to see if a new double balance ceramic comes out soon. I also think there is a good amount of room for price to come down further on this one. AP market and rest of watch market is tanking. Most dealers won't even buy this piece for more than 160k unless you consign.

$160K USD for the Black ceramic Double Balance? on the gray market?

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by PAFG

I think I will, just contemplating waiting to see if a new double balance ceramic comes out soon. I also think there is a good amount of room for price to come down further on this one. AP market and rest of watch market is tanking. Most dealers won't even buy this piece for more than 160k unless you consign.

Current ceramic DBW seems underpriced at MSRP, looking at the price difference to the steel version vs e.g., the difference between ceramic chrono and steel chrono, or ceramic ROO vs steel ROO. I'd expect the new one, when/if it comes, to go up in price significantly.

[Johndong888]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Current ceramic DBW seems underpriced at MSRP, looking at the price difference to the steel version vs e.g., the difference between ceramic chrono and steel chrono, or ceramic ROO vs steel ROO. I'd expect the new one, when/if it comes, to go up in price significantly.

I see this happening. I'm more concern with how it's going to look. The current DBW is sexyyy!

[PAFG]

Originally Posted by Steele

$160K USD for the Black ceramic Double Balance? on the gray market?

No, I said that’s what a dealer is buying it for from private seller for wholesale. Then attempt to sell at 220-250k range. Many worried for continued price declines so they dealers don’t want to put up big money.

[Johndong888]

Originally Posted by PAFG

No, I said that’s what a dealer is buying it for from private seller for wholesale. Then attempt to sell at 220-250k range. Many worried for continued price declines so they dealers don’t want to put up big money.

Spread seems awfully wide even if market is crap.


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[PAFG]

Originally Posted by Johndong888

Spread seems awfully wide even if market is crap.


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Try getting a dealer to drop 200k on 1 piece of inventory in a bear market for watches then

[J.T.]

Originally Posted by PAFG

No, I said that’s what a dealer is buying it for from private seller for wholesale. Then attempt to sell at 220-250k range. Many worried for continued price declines so they dealers don’t want to put up big money.

Was offered brand new never worn/sized 5/2024 date for $220kUSD

[PAFG]

Originally Posted by J.T.

Was offered brand new never worn/sized 5/2024 date for $220kUSD

That's what I said.. but if you are a private seller and trying to sell to a dealer, they will offer you no where near $200k.

[PAFG]

If anyone is selling a black ceramic double balance, shoot me a txt - located in FL.

5 six 1 - eight 6 6 - two two 1 5.

[slim]

Originally Posted by PAFG

If anyone is selling a black ceramic double balance, shoot me a txt - located in FL.

5 six 1 - eight 6 6 - two two 1 5.

First Class Timepieces has one listed on the classifieds asking 248k =X

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=948505

[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by Steele

I have the Ceramic ROO with the rubber strap and wear it a lot and no issues for me and thats much larger than the RO DB

I have a Hublot all black ceramic and ITS SICK!!!! the shine off the black ceramic is amazing and I love wearing it

I have a similar all black ceramic Hublot and love it. Ceramic is great because it doesn’t scratch and I haven’t had any dents or shattering either.

One day a perpetual cal AP RO in ceramic would be awesome…

[Steele]

Originally Posted by PAFG

If anyone is selling a black ceramic double balance, shoot me a txt - located in FL.

5 six 1 - eight 6 6 - two two 1 5.

I’m in tampa area. What part of Florida are you in?

[Steele]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

I have a similar all black ceramic Hublot and love it. Ceramic is great because it doesn’t scratch and I haven’t had any dents or shattering either.

One day a perpetual cal AP RO in ceramic would be awesome…

the Hublot ceramic is amazing wish I could post a video here of it. Pics don’t do it justice.

[PAFG]

Originally Posted by Steele

I’m in tampa area. What part of Florida are you in?

Palm Beach area