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level · 25 November 2009, 12:09 AM

I am thinking of buying a vintage Rolex from a private seller, but one thing that bothers me is the crown. Haven't seen one like this before. Can anyone identify it?

BASSETHOUNDS · 25 November 2009, 01:33 AM

Not sure , but I think the crown and the "swiss cross " was used on Tudor watches .

datejust1 · 25 November 2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Not sure , but I think the crown and the "swiss cross " was used on Tudor watches .

True. It may be a Tudor converted into a Rolex! But that is MHO. Let get the experts in here.

BarkMaster · 25 November 2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by datejust1

True. It may be a Tudor converted into a Rolex! But that is MHO. Let get the experts in here.

If that's the case, then the movement would be different, right? Something to check on...

padi56 · 25 November 2009, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Not sure , but I think the crown and the "swiss cross " was used on Tudor watches .

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Originally Posted by datejust1

True. It may be a Tudor converted into a Rolex! But that is MHO. Let get the experts in here.

Nothing to do with Tudor,mid late 1940s early 1950s genuine Rolex patented crown on watches like bubblebacks.

1000ftSub · 25 November 2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 777

If that's the case, then the movement would be different, right? Something to check on...

indeed, looks a little odd.

Alcan · 25 November 2009, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Nothing to do with Tudor, mid late 1940s early 1950s genuine Rolex patented crown on watches like bubblebacks.

Yep.

moviefreak · 25 November 2009, 03:36 AM

you always learn something new... nice to know...

level · 25 November 2009, 04:10 AM

This is what the seller had in his ad:

semi bubble back w/ gold bezel& crown #6085 #700000=49/50 certified chronometer auto MvT keep good timeOriginal dial center second

He sent some not so great photos, from what I can see it looks to be in reasonably good shape.

He's asking $1450 for the head only. Does that seem like a fair price?

padi56 · 25 November 2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by level

This is what the seller had in his ad:

semi bubble back w/ gold bezel& crown #6085 #700000=49/50 certified chronometer auto MvT keep good timeOriginal dial center second

He sent some not so great photos, from what I can see it looks to be in reasonably good shape.

He's asking $1450 for the head only. Does that seem like a fair price?

Yes not a bad price but still worth a haggle to get price down a bit.Yes year is correct for a 6085 around 1949/50 with the 1800BPH Cal 645 .Movement parts might be hard to source now but movement very strong and very long lasting.

ocwatching · 25 November 2009, 04:50 AM

interesting...leave it to TRF for me to learn something new today...

datejust1 · 25 November 2009, 04:53 AM

well can u get the other pictures? so we can see the face of the watch?

level · 25 November 2009, 04:58 AM

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well can u get the other pictures? so we can see the face of the watch?

Here they are:

datejust1 · 25 November 2009, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by level

Here they are:

Not Bad actually, But I'm not a Vintage Expert. Lets wait till the others come!

valentine · 25 November 2009, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Nothing to do with Tudor,mid late 1940s early 1950s genuine Rolex patented crown on watches like bubblebacks.

there he is PADI to the rescue..AGAIN!

Tools · 25 November 2009, 05:13 AM

Is it my eyes, or is the dial physically twisted in the case.........

datejust1 · 25 November 2009, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Is it my eyes, or is the dial physically twisted in the case.........

Yeah... I see that too...

BASSETHOUNDS · 25 November 2009, 05:28 AM

Looks that way , but could be the angle the picture was taken . It seems to have some nicks on its case back too . But I guess the watch is no longer a spring chicken .

25 November 2009, 03:36 AM	#8
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25 November 2009, 05:13 AM	#16
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,139	Is it my eyes, or is the dial physically twisted in the case......... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

25 November 2009, 01:33 AM	#2
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Not sure , but I think the crown and the "swiss cross " was used on Tudor watches .

25 November 2009, 04:10 AM	#9
level Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 296	This is what the seller had in his ad: semi bubble back w/ gold bezel& crown #6085 #700000=49/50 certified chronometer auto MvT keep good timeOriginal dial center second He sent some not so great photos, from what I can see it looks to be in reasonably good shape. He's asking $1450 for the head only. Does that seem like a fair price?

25 November 2009, 04:53 AM	#12
datejust1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: G Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 6,042	well can u get the other pictures? so we can see the face of the watch?

25 November 2009, 05:28 AM	#18
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Looks that way , but could be the angle the picture was taken . It seems to have some nicks on its case back too . But I guess the watch is no longer a spring chicken .

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