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20 January 2010, 04:46 PM
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...VINTAGE experts COME HERE...MOD'S, Orchi, Springer, Onkyo...
...here we have what is presented as a 6605.
...PERSONALLY, I have a problem with the CASE. ...NOTICE the location of the 6605 (on the TOP area of the end). ...I OWN a 2T 6605. On MY 6605, the location of the model# is on the bottom. ABOVE the model# is Brevet and the Swiss cross. (MY ser# is located on the TOP, same as the one presented.) The font appears correct. ...PERSONALLY, I consider the CASE as HIGHLY SUSPECT-COUNTERFEIT.  ...what say the EXPERTS?? EXPLANATIONS???? http://cgi.ebay.com/1941-Rolex-DateJ...item27ae9854ae 6605.JPG ser#.JPG |
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20 January 2010, 07:59 PM
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We need the help of our wise and most respected Buddy Orchi here
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21 January 2010, 01:47 AM
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^^^^^^^^come on MODS and vintage fellers...
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21 January 2010, 07:24 AM
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Stan, I too am familiar with 'Brevet' and a cross on the case with the model number below....
Also look at the first two digits of the serial (both 2's)... the are quite different from each other esp at the left upper portion. I too think suspect.... but I am not an expert on ref 6605.... never owned one and probably never will. Where is our Buddy Orchi???? |
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21 January 2010, 10:43 AM
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Older stampings are not perfect and sometimes look rather crude or "fake" compared to newer stampings from Rolex. I see nothing with the dial or bracelet that indicates it is not genuine. It appears to be in the condition that an old, beat-up Rolex would be in for 55-years-old.
I can't explain the stamping locations on the watch case but they appear genuine and worn as they should. This is not a high-dollar collector watch that someone would put a lot of time into to misrepresent or counterfeit. With all said here, one should exercise caution and ask for better pics or buy it in person and have it examined.
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21 January 2010, 11:15 AM
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Wish I'd seen it...I'd love a 70 year old automatic Rolex for $1K
 "And I'll hug him, and pet him and call him George..."  Seriously, these were all made by hand back then, weren't they? Is it possible that this one was a minor error? Did the OP win the auction?
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21 January 2010, 12:56 PM
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21 January 2010, 01:11 PM
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1941?
Is this true: 1945 - The Oyster Datejust goes on sale. Automatically sets the correct date for each month (perpetual month). |
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21 January 2010, 01:22 PM
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...correct observation...
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...my 6605 has a 100,000 ser#. |
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21 January 2010, 01:32 PM
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21 January 2010, 05:37 PM
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Err buddy Stan...thanks for the head up...
1st up...Orchi thinks the Dial is refinished... 2ndly...Orchi has NOT seen any case so far... that were fitted with bracelet... which would NOT have any scratches or abrasion marks between the lugs... Even if the watch case was previously fitted with leather straps... there bound to have some signs of wear n tear between the lugs... On the stamping issue...n its positions... Rolex do stamp them on different spot... n sometimes it can be off centered... BUT in this case Orchi thinks not the case of inconsistency... By 1956(shown in caseback)...there normally would be... "REGISTERED DESIGN" or at the least "STAINLESS STEEL" stamp between the lugs...to be consistent. Buddy Stan's 6605 has the correct "BREVET n +"...which is consistent on the much older cases of the 40s...n even on later cases of the 50s. n Buddy Stan's 6605...could even have different stamps on the caseback. Therefore...Orchi is in opinion that the eBay's 6605 watch example... could likely be...a RECASE...  Oh btw...not to be mistaken...the RECASE could have been done by RSC long time ago... as it was a norm that RSC would replace the case(old one too badly worn out)... n RE-STAMP the original S/N # n Ref # on the replacement cases during that time... Besides...Datejust replacement cases...are of abundance...plentiful. |
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21 January 2010, 10:21 PM
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21 January 2010, 11:35 PM
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Buddy Orchi been very busy in VRF nowadays...
The guys here miss you alot Buddy Orchi :-=) |
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22 January 2010, 12:08 AM
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22 January 2010, 04:18 AM
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...buddies Orchi, Springer...and all with input...
...thank you for the input.
...I never gave it a thought to the possibility of a re-case. ...I guess Rolex was doing that back then too. |
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22 January 2010, 04:44 AM
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