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smafla · 30 August 2009, 07:07 AM

Recently purchaesd a new DEEPSEA Sea-Dweller. Love the watch and have taken it diving several times. However, just noticed the bezel at the indicator is cracked. Dove this am but do not recall any bumps or scrapes. Has anyone had this problem?

sheldonsmith · 30 August 2009, 10:42 AM

Good heavens... a cracked bezel? Any chance you can post a pict? To answer your question.... yes, cracks at the bezel indicator are uncommon.

-Sheldon

Dr.B · 30 August 2009, 10:47 AM

Doesn't sound good.
Foto please.........

Harvey58 · 30 August 2009, 10:51 AM

I would have it fixed before you go diving with it again!!!

greekbum · 30 August 2009, 10:53 AM

Go back to your AD and get it fixed.

Tools · 30 August 2009, 01:04 PM

If it is cracked all the way through, it is a simple matter for it to fall off as the tension fit is reduced....

smafla · 3 September 2009, 03:54 AM

Best pic I could take. Note crack at zero indicator.

Balboa · 3 September 2009, 06:33 AM

That is a little more than a crack. Looks like that was smacked into something.

Appears to be only the bezel insert and not the bezel. That can be easily replaced and is not too big a deal.

Mark

sushisummo · 3 September 2009, 07:14 AM

Ouch......

mateugbur · 10 September 2009, 12:05 PM

Maybe is shattered because of the new Ceramic insert Rolex is now using, though Ceramic is strong the bezel insert on the watch is very thin and fragile..

SLS · 10 September 2009, 11:58 PM

Hmm, I would have to think that you would remember smacking something for that to occur, I would contact the RSC and send it in. Sorry to hear that, let us know how this turns out.
Scott

wegeman76 · 15 September 2009, 05:38 AM

how much to replace that?

SDDS · 15 September 2009, 05:42 AM

opps

onkyo · 15 September 2009, 06:09 AM

That hurts.... replacement cost anyone???

Dutchers · 30 September 2009, 10:17 AM

I lost my bezel in the subway in paris !!
Very strange, anyhow wonder what the replacement cost is too before I call the Rolex dealer !

sheldonsmith · 30 September 2009, 01:10 PM

Any chance of a picture????

I would be curious as to how much Rolex charges.. This seems to me to be under warranty, even if the warranty period expired...

-Sheldon

Dalton · 2 October 2009, 05:25 PM

I dive for sport and have cut myself without knowing it so I can see how you could smack your watch with either some coral, a wreck, or your equipment. It's easy for things to happen while diving. Does the Bezel have a mark or scratch near the cave in? If you do then you clearly smacked against something hard. If you dont then the insert was cracked by something sharp, and strong, something that applied more pressure than the insert could handle. The chances for that to happen are very low,but you Sir got it right in the bulls eye, with it being right on the Zero mark. Which brings up an interesting point. When you dove, did you set your Bezel or did you simply not use it? If you did not use and left it at the 12 o'clock position,then you clearly smacked it since that would be the point of impact if you were to swing your left arm out. If you used the bezel then the minute hand was either at the 12' o'clock position leaving it where it would need to be for the point of impact or I'm just thinking too much about it.

1000ftSub · 8 October 2009, 06:17 AM

O NO! I am really sorry that happened to your watch, if that happened to my DeepSea i would fall over crying

Brushpup · 8 October 2009, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mateugbur

Maybe is shattered because of the new Ceramic insert Rolex is now using, though Ceramic is strong the bezel insert on the watch is very thin and fragile..

Ya think???

2th Dr · 8 October 2009, 07:07 AM

Patrick, I'm starting to follow your posts! Yur cracking me up!

Brushpup · 8 October 2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2th DR

Patrick, I'm starting to follow your posts! Yur cracking me up!

Well, I'm doing the same with yours...I guess that makes two more loons in this loony bin?

Every time I read your sig, I think...that SOB is crazy as I am!

Hell, at least we are in good company!

hennabav · 8 October 2009, 07:24 AM

Hmm...I thought the new ceramics were very strong. Also, I didn't know the new deepseas still use bezel inserts. I thought it was something like the GMT II ceramics.

Cowboyland · 8 October 2009, 07:28 AM

I don't know how deep you were diving but the most logical answer would seem the crystal over the lume dot may have imploded. I assume they test the water resistant ratings on the lume crystal, otherwise what would be the point of putting it on a 12,000 + depth rated watch. If that is what happened I am supprised at the actual damage. Good luck.

fujisan · 10 October 2009, 10:16 PM

Thats a decent crack. It has been smashed against a rock or something. I wouldn't be putting it near any water until getting it fixed.

franksremote · 31 January 2010, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smafla

Best pic I could take. Note crack at zero indicator.

I did something similar to my TT Blue Sub when diving in Belize a number of years ago. After a dive, I noticed a "chip" on the insert at around the "5" mark. Thinking it just added character to the watch I left it alone and didn't think twice about it until my dive vacation was over (another 10 dives or so over 3-4 days) and while sitting on the plane, noticed that the chip/hole had grown so that the insert had a complete hole/gap from the 5-15 marks or so, like it (seawater) had eaten away more of the insert on the subsequent dive's.

Not knowing better I thought it was the complete bezel that needed replacement and expected to pay a pretty penny to replace it. Luckily, the watchmaker I brought it to said it was only the insert and replaced it for $45 or so (this was 10 or so years ago). I was so relieved that I didn't need to spend hundreds to replace the 18k bezel that it didn't even dawn on me the $45 was a little high, but MUCH cheaper than a complete bezel replacement.

Yours looks to be similar and I would think it isn't gonna cost as much as you think to get it back to 100%. Cool thing is, I got to keep the damaged insert and am fondly reminded of that dive trip every time I come across the envelope with the damaged insert in it. I never did remember what I did in the first place to cause the original chip...

Hope this helps alleviate the giant dollar signs dancing in your head. ;)

Nicko · 31 January 2010, 05:00 AM

This is why I don't think ceramic is such a good idea for a tool watch.

clew84 · 31 January 2010, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko

This is why I don't think ceramic is such a good idea for a tool watch.

I would agree with this statement. If this watch, which I own, was really supposed to be used for rugged diving then the bezel insert would be metal and the bezel wouldn't turn so easily. I notice going through my low contact, normal day that the bezel gets turned a position or two.

Yes, you can go deep but I don't think you can go hard.

Uh, that came out wrong.

So did that.

smallcandle · 31 January 2010, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clew84

Yes, you can go deep but I don't think you can go hard.

Uh, that came out wrong.

rickyslam · 31 January 2010, 05:50 AM

You think Rolex sometimes forget that people actually use these watches as a tool??

dmc · 31 January 2010, 06:18 AM

While we are discussing this, I would like to ask if a guy could replace the Ceramic Bezel with a steel one? Say from the earlier Sea Dweller.

I'm afraid that ceramic insert is going to be a bit pricey from an Ad.

I'm sure Steve Mulholland should have some info on this.

30 August 2009, 07:07 AM	#1
smafla "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2	Bezel Damage to DeepSea Sea-Dweller Recently purchaesd a new DEEPSEA Sea-Dweller. Love the watch and have taken it diving several times. However, just noticed the bezel at the indicator is cracked. Dove this am but do not recall any bumps or scrapes. Has anyone had this problem?

30 August 2009, 10:42 AM	#2
sheldonsmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Member 202♛ Posts: 1,814	gotta a pict? Good heavens... a cracked bezel? Any chance you can post a pict? To answer your question.... yes, cracks at the bezel indicator are uncommon. -Sheldon __________________

30 August 2009, 10:51 AM	#4
Harvey58 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Harvey Location: Clermont, Florida Watch: TT Sub Champ Serti Posts: 338	I would have it fixed before you go diving with it again!!! __________________ TT Sub Champ. Serti Dial "M" SS Sub-C "G"

30 August 2009, 10:53 AM	#5
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Go back to your AD and get it fixed. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

30 August 2009, 01:04 PM	#6
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,459	If it is cracked all the way through, it is a simple matter for it to fall off as the tension fit is reduced.... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

30 August 2009, 10:47 AM	#3
Dr.B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Fernando Location: North Carolina Watch: SS White Daytona Posts: 1,944	Doesn't sound good. Foto please.........

3 September 2009, 06:33 AM	#8
Balboa Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SoCal OC U.S.A. Posts: 342	That is a little more than a crack. Looks like that was smacked into something. Appears to be only the bezel insert and not the bezel. That can be easily replaced and is not too big a deal. Mark

3 September 2009, 07:14 AM	#9
sushisummo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: JT Location: in a house....:) Watch: Hmmm......? Posts: 1,776	Ouch...... __________________ Collections: -- R-O-L-E-X --AP-ROO -- P-A-N-E-R-A-I -- B-R-E-G-U-E-T -- I-W-C -- B-A-L-L -- O-T-H-E-R-S WISHLIST: Too many to list...... Member #23367

10 September 2009, 12:05 PM	#10
mateugbur "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Long Beach, Ca Posts: 11	Maybe is shattered because of the new Ceramic insert Rolex is now using, though Ceramic is strong the bezel insert on the watch is very thin and fragile..

10 September 2009, 11:58 PM	#11
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Hmm, I would have to think that you would remember smacking something for that to occur, I would contact the RSC and send it in. Sorry to hear that, let us know how this turns out. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

15 September 2009, 05:38 AM	#12
wegeman76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Luigi Location: glenview Watch: Rolex GMTIIC Posts: 224	how much to replace that?

15 September 2009, 05:42 AM	#13
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15 September 2009, 06:09 AM	#14
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	That hurts.... replacement cost anyone???

30 September 2009, 10:17 AM	#15
Dutchers "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Laguna Beach Posts: 1	I lost my bezel in the subway in paris !! Very strange, anyhow wonder what the replacement cost is too before I call the Rolex dealer !

30 September 2009, 01:10 PM	#16
sheldonsmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Member 202♛ Posts: 1,814	Any chance of a picture? Any chance of a picture???? I would be curious as to how much Rolex charges.. This seems to me to be under warranty, even if the warranty period expired... -Sheldon __________________

2 October 2009, 05:25 PM	#17
Dalton TechXpert Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Dal Location: Seattle Watch: 168000 Posts: 1,614	I dive for sport and have cut myself without knowing it so I can see how you could smack your watch with either some coral, a wreck, or your equipment. It's easy for things to happen while diving. Does the Bezel have a mark or scratch near the cave in? If you do then you clearly smacked against something hard. If you dont then the insert was cracked by something sharp, and strong, something that applied more pressure than the insert could handle. The chances for that to happen are very low,but you Sir got it right in the bulls eye, with it being right on the Zero mark. Which brings up an interesting point. When you dove, did you set your Bezel or did you simply not use it? If you did not use and left it at the 12 o'clock position,then you clearly smacked it since that would be the point of impact if you were to swing your left arm out. If you used the bezel then the minute hand was either at the 12' o'clock position leaving it where it would need to be for the point of impact or I'm just thinking too much about it.

8 October 2009, 06:17 AM	#18
1000ftSub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Orlando Posts: 2,471	O NO! I am really sorry that happened to your watch, if that happened to my DeepSea i would fall over crying

8 October 2009, 07:07 AM	#20
2th Dr Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Mark-O! Location: Arlington, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 12,714	Patrick, I'm starting to follow your posts! Yur cracking me up!

8 October 2009, 07:24 AM	#22
hennabav Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jon Location: New England Watch: --Rolex-- Posts: 2,391	Hmm...I thought the new ceramics were very strong. Also, I didn't know the new deepseas still use bezel inserts. I thought it was something like the GMT II ceramics.

8 October 2009, 07:28 AM	#23
Cowboyland Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Terry Location: Panhandle Florida Watch: Breitling Posts: 38	Bezel I don't know how deep you were diving but the most logical answer would seem the crystal over the lume dot may have imploded. I assume they test the water resistant ratings on the lume crystal, otherwise what would be the point of putting it on a 12,000 + depth rated watch. If that is what happened I am supprised at the actual damage. Good luck.

10 October 2009, 10:16 PM	#24
fujisan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mr Fuji Location: Japan Watch: SDDS Posts: 143	Thats a decent crack. It has been smashed against a rock or something. I wouldn't be putting it near any water until getting it fixed.

31 January 2010, 05:00 AM	#26
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	This is why I don't think ceramic is such a good idea for a tool watch.

31 January 2010, 05:50 AM	#29
rickyslam "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Ricky Location: City of Sin Watch: Hulk, DaytonaC, DJ Posts: 1,149	You think Rolex sometimes forget that people actually use these watches as a tool??

31 January 2010, 06:18 AM	#30
dmc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Don Location: SE USA Watch: Rolex GMTIIC Posts: 392	While we are discussing this, I would like to ask if a guy could replace the Ceramic Bezel with a steel one? Say from the earlier Sea Dweller. I'm afraid that ceramic insert is going to be a bit pricey from an Ad. I'm sure Steve Mulholland should have some info on this. __________________ R.I.P. JJ Rolex GMTIIC M Rolex GMTIIC V TRF Rolex 16610 M Rolex 116610 G Omega SMP Live Free Or Die

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