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SS Oyster · 30 January 2011, 05:31 AM

Just purchased this 5513 yesterday. Wondering what year this dial is from? How about hands. I have seen mostly T < 25 at the bottom, but this one just says "Swiss" and has WG surrounds on the hour markers.

It's a 1.7M (circa '67) that went through $2,200 worth of work at RSC recently. Love the look and won't likely try to restore it to original dial, bezel insert, etc, but just wondering what I've got.

SS Oyster · 30 January 2011, 05:40 AM

Another pic

HL65 · 30 January 2011, 05:58 AM

It is a replacement dial and hands. FYI

mike · 30 January 2011, 06:18 AM

Yep. Service replacement dial.

fusionstorm · 30 January 2011, 06:57 AM

Not the original bezel insert or dot, either.......

TimeToGo · 30 January 2011, 07:16 AM

As others have mentioned, the dial, hands, and insert.

I would like to see a better picture of the clasp.

CaveDiver · 30 January 2011, 07:21 AM

Looks like the crown and tube as well. RSC made it like new..

HL65 · 30 January 2011, 07:34 AM

X2!

Yazo · 30 January 2011, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

It is a replacement dial and hands. FYI

Yep!

ROGERB · 31 January 2011, 02:46 AM

I'd venture to guess the only part of that watch still from 67 is the movement, caseback, and case after it's service..as long as you like it enjoy it!!
R

SS Oyster · 31 January 2011, 11:54 PM

Yep, RSC did over $2k of work before I got it, which is fine. Just wondering if any new 5513's ever had this dial.

Black Bay Dan · 1 February 2011, 12:55 AM

I think it looks fantastic - I have no problem with the replacement parts as long as they are genuine. Lovely watch.

Dan

GeorgeK · 1 February 2011, 01:11 AM

First it looks fantastic.
Second, I hope you're not upset that all the characteristics that made it a vintage watch are gone.

SS Oyster · 1 February 2011, 04:04 PM

I'm not upset, I bought it this way ... RSC put $2.2k into this one. To some, they devalued the watch. To me, they made it possible for me to go vintage without having to put a ton of money into the watch to make it wearable, comfortable, and accurate.

I didn't want a money pit.

I guess it's like old furniture ... the worst thing you can do is to refinish it. But, to me it's just amazing to have something this perfect being so old at heart.

Maybe someday, I'll purchase a age appropriate dial and hands to make it looks it's age, but I'm loving it the way it is ... terrific lume as well.

PhilM · 2 February 2011, 04:38 AM

The main thing is that you enjoy it, and it clearly sounds like you do so that it good news.... Enjoy

mike · 2 February 2011, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

I'm not upset, I bought it this way ... RSC put $2.2k into this one. To some, they devalued the watch. To me, they made it possible for me to go vintage without having to put a ton of money into the watch to make it wearable, comfortable, and accurate.

I didn't want a money pit.

I guess it's like old furniture ... the worst thing you can do is to refinish it. But, to me it's just amazing to have something this perfect being so old at heart.

Maybe someday, I'll purchase a age appropriate dial and hands to make it looks it's age, but I'm loving it the way it is ... terrific lume as well.

And that is what matters most.

SS Oyster · 2 February 2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROGERB

I'd venture to guess the only part of that watch still from 67 is the movement, caseback, and case after it's service..as long as you like it enjoy it!!
R

Right, but check out this case ... I've never seen such pointy and perfect lugs on any Rolex of this age. The more I see of "vintage" 5513's and 5512's the more happy I am with this one. Most of the older ones seem to have no point to the lug (rounded off somehow).

Wish I could have the parts that came off this one as I'm pretty sure that despite Rolex (RSC) doing so much work on it, it must have arrived at the RSC is pretty darn good shape.

Makes me wonder what the RSC's do with all the "old" parts they remove and replace with new service parts. Do they sell the matt dials, etc?

30 January 2011, 05:58 AM	#3
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30 January 2011, 06:57 AM	#5
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30 January 2011, 07:34 AM	#8
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1 February 2011, 12:55 AM	#12
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30 January 2011, 06:18 AM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Yep. Service replacement dial.

30 January 2011, 07:16 AM	#6
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,625	As others have mentioned, the dial, hands, and insert. I would like to see a better picture of the clasp.

30 January 2011, 07:21 AM	#7
CaveDiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,075	Looks like the crown and tube as well. RSC made it like new..

31 January 2011, 02:46 AM	#10
ROGERB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: WHITE ROCK BC Watch: 89 16610, 57 7914, Posts: 897	I'd venture to guess the only part of that watch still from 67 is the movement, caseback, and case after it's service..as long as you like it enjoy it!! R

31 January 2011, 11:54 PM	#11
SS Oyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 8,903	Yep, RSC did over $2k of work before I got it, which is fine. Just wondering if any new 5513's ever had this dial.

1 February 2011, 01:11 AM	#13
GeorgeK "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Alps Posts: 406	First it looks fantastic. Second, I hope you're not upset that all the characteristics that made it a vintage watch are gone.

1 February 2011, 04:04 PM	#14
SS Oyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 8,903	I'm not upset, I bought it this way ... RSC put $2.2k into this one. To some, they devalued the watch. To me, they made it possible for me to go vintage without having to put a ton of money into the watch to make it wearable, comfortable, and accurate. I didn't want a money pit. I guess it's like old furniture ... the worst thing you can do is to refinish it. But, to me it's just amazing to have something this perfect being so old at heart. Maybe someday, I'll purchase a age appropriate dial and hands to make it looks it's age, but I'm loving it the way it is ... terrific lume as well.

2 February 2011, 04:38 AM	#15
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	The main thing is that you enjoy it, and it clearly sounds like you do so that it good news.... Enjoy

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