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Old 10 October 2012, 09:44 PM   #1
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My one wish for Rolex.

Please create a 44-45mm Sub Date, with a proper balanced bracelet, PLEASE ~!~

I honestly believe that the Sub Date 16610 116610 is the most beautiful watch ever made, humbly stated.

Given the current "popular" sizes of most divers today, it would be awesome to see one offered as it would immediately draw me back to the brand and more than likely keep me there, not to mention many others I suspect.

Would be interested to hear other thoughts on this, as I know it has been brought up many many times in the past.

PS: I am new here, but have been haunting the other forums for years. Love this site and have used it for reference many times over.

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Old 10 October 2012, 09:51 PM   #2
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Please create a 44-45mm Sub Date, with a proper balanced bracelet, PLEASE ~!~

I honestly believe that the Sub Date 16610 116610 is the most beautiful watch ever made, humbly stated.

Given the current "popular" sizes of most divers today, it would be awesome to see one offered as it would immediately draw me back to the brand and more than likely keep me there, not to mention many others I suspect.

Would be interested to hear other thoughts on this, as I know it has been brought up many many times in the past.

PS: I am new here, but have been haunting the other forums for years. Love this site and have used it for reference many times over.

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Well you have it right your quote (I honestly believe that the Sub Date 16610 116610 is the most beautiful watch ever made, humbly stated.)So not much point in making it bigger afraid today bigger is not always better.
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Old 10 October 2012, 09:51 PM   #3
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Welcome Adam... Your wish is Rolex's command, POOF meet the 44mm DeepSea.
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Old 10 October 2012, 09:52 PM   #4
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Why stop at 45 mm, how about a 55 mm Submariner?
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Old 10 October 2012, 09:57 PM   #5
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It's funny, that's exactly what I want them not to do! (for the standard Submariner Date)

I think what you're wanting has already been done, it's the DSSD. At 44mm with an altered bracelet to match the case's larger proportions, I think it's exactly what you described. It's just an added bonus that it can withstand even more pressure than it will never see.
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Old 10 October 2012, 09:57 PM   #6
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SDDS is far from what I meant.

Very top heavy, no cyclops and a very unbalanced bracelet. IMHO , though repeated numerous times by many long-time collectors.

Essentially all I meant to say was take the current specs, modded dial, hands, ext... to fit a 44mm case.

Not to argue this one, just an open letter to "Santa" :)

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Old 10 October 2012, 10:15 PM   #7
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Bigger size is just a fade.... The 16610 and 116610 are the right sizes.
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Old 10 October 2012, 10:15 PM   #8
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Definitely not trying to argue with you, but if you think the DSSD's bracelet is unbalanced how do you suppose they make it balanced?

I mean, the bracelet and clasp on that guy are huge! I couldn't see either getting any bigger without it being extremely uncomfortable and even more out of balance.

Wouldn't taking the "current specs" and modifying the dial, hands, and so on to "fit" a bigger case be changing the "current specs"? It would just make them completely different specs. It's like saying "take an orange, but make it not an orange", it completely defeats itself. The only I can think of that you're not wanting to change is the cyclops feature. The bracelet on the DSSD is Rolex's idea of a scale to scale balance between the standard Submariner Date's case and bracelet and the DSSD's case and bracelet.
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Old 11 October 2012, 12:14 AM   #9
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Well you have it right your quote (I honestly believe that the Sub Date 16610 116610 is the most beautiful watch ever made, humbly stated.)So not much point in making it bigger afraid today bigger is not always better.
I agree
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Old 11 October 2012, 12:19 AM   #10
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The bracelet on the DSSD is absolute perfection. IMHO it is more balanced than the one on the Sub, as the clasp length is actually proportional with the head (while it is too long with the Sub ... again my subjective opinion). The GMT clasp works better in my book (Glidelock aside).

The Sub is perfect at 40 and I hope they don't mess with it (same goes for the GMT).

That said, I prefer the DSSD to the Sub any day of the week.
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Old 11 October 2012, 12:23 AM   #11
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My one Rolex wish is that this would never happen...
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Old 11 October 2012, 12:28 AM   #12
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Personally I feel the move to make all of these luxury watches bigger and bigger is contrary to their purpose. You want something that serves a purpose, but is not something that draws attention to that huge block on your wrist. Should be able to comfortably wear it under your sleeve without having to unbutton it just to see the time.
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Old 11 October 2012, 12:35 AM   #13
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45mm Sub...... bogus.
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Old 11 October 2012, 12:43 AM   #14
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The bracelet on the DSSD is absolute perfection. IMHO it is more balanced than the one on the Sub, as the clasp length is actually proportional with the head
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i've been trying to figure out how to mill the oyster bracelets on my certina action diver and seiko 007 to match my DSSD taper...
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Old 11 October 2012, 12:50 AM   #15
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It's a perfect Rolex world with a 40m Submariner and 44m Deep Sea available.
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Old 11 October 2012, 01:12 AM   #16
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If wish Rolex would make a 40 mm Explorer II 216570
I would buy one on the spot!

I don't see Rolex make a 44 or 45 mm sub... Maybe 42 mm, MAX!
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Old 11 October 2012, 02:43 AM   #17
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afraid today bigger is not always better.
Couldn't agree more! I personally always go with smaller watches, they work just fine for me!
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Old 11 October 2012, 03:12 AM   #18
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I like them 40mm, but maybe a 42mm version, like the latest EXP II
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Old 11 October 2012, 04:09 AM   #19
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My one Rolex wish is that this would never happen...

LOL.....me too. I wish the day date II and the datejust II never happened too.

but I'm glad the oyster perpetual moved up from 34mm to 36mm
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Old 11 October 2012, 04:13 AM   #20
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I think 42mm MAX. Anything larger is just ridiculous
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Old 11 October 2012, 04:27 AM   #21
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The bracelet on the DSSD is somewhat unbalanced in the sense that it looks skinny as heck in relation to the case of the watch. It is mega functional and the clasp is the best thing since sliced bread but compared to every other Rolex, Omega, standard dive watch, etc...it does look a tad malnourished.....in relation to the Deep Sea's case.

I'd safely gamble away a million dollars that Rolex won't make a bigger Sub. The Deep Sea gets enough negative comments from the mainstream, albeit it's heavier construction. Even with all it's large fan base it's still very polarizing.

I could pull off the Deep Sea but it through me off. I compare my 16600 to my Omega PO in 42mm and 42mm would be my limit in that weight and size. I really want the DSSD because I love gadgetry and the DS is just such a machine, but the size is just a bit much for me and the mainstream.
However, I praise Rolex for the DSSD, considering it's depth rating and capabilities the watch is essentially tiny. I wish, they'd meet us in the middle and continued the 16600 in ceramics/chromalight....but alas, I too have an open letter to santa.
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Old 11 October 2012, 04:33 AM   #22
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Sorry a 42, 44 or 45mm Sub is ridiculous. It is their bread and butter watch. Not everybody has huge wrists, and I think they already know what they are doing.

Let me also add this watch came out just a couple of years ago. The previous model (16610) came out in what 1988? I think we have a long time until a new Sub comes out.

40mm Sub is here to stay, and as a current owner I am very happy for that.
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Old 11 October 2012, 04:38 AM   #23
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I'm not a huge fan of anything over 41mm. Even the new 42mm expii seems a little big on my wrist.
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