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Kushing · 10 January 2013, 10:48 AM

Hello,

I have been a member for a little while but this is my first post. I bought 2 items off ebay that I can't figure out if they are genuine Rolex. The first is a TT ladies Oyster Band. I was cheap and it looked right but this serial number range band was heavily copied to my knowledge and have heard about great copies. The second is a bezel for my GMT II Fat Lady and the number printing looks different than the original. This bezel was going to be used as a daily driver while the original stayed in better condition. Please advise. I know you guys hate this stuff but I feel like the market is so saturated with fakes and up where Im at ,it's a 6 hour drive to the first qualified opinion....thanks

http://s705.beta.photobucket.com/use...20parts%20Ebay

Tools · 10 January 2013, 02:16 PM

The bracelet is a fake one... sorry

turbineboy · 10 January 2013, 03:54 PM

Curious to learn/know - but how does one spot a fake bracelet. Are those numbers not typical of this bracelet ?

Tools · 11 January 2013, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbineboy

Curious to learn/know - but how does one spot a fake bracelet. Are those numbers not typical of this bracelet ?

If you only looked at the numbers, yes. Those numbers are for a Ladies Jubilee bracelet. The one shown is an Oyster bracelet, two different animals.

Kushing · 11 January 2013, 10:00 AM

Hmm, This is a ladies band, but Oyster, could it be a clasp off a Jubilee, and band of an oyster? Is it an outright copy and how could you tell? The reason I ask is this was an ebay purchase and I want to know how to state my case… I can give you the auction number if you need it . Thank you for your time and understanding

Kushing · 11 January 2013, 10:14 AM

This the auction with discription

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250989063983...84.m1497.l2649

crowncollection · 11 January 2013, 10:29 AM

get us some better close up of the the clasp markings, but it looks fake, the set up appears wrong, we need to examine the stampings and scrolling better, as for the bezel we need good a close up of the back as well as the front of the bezel insert in clear macro. thanks

Kushing · 11 January 2013, 11:11 AM

Okay, I have a DSLR but I am not skilled…does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph these correctly? Cannon T2i 15+ MP. Sorry I am an amature but want to get it right. Thanks

Kushing · 11 January 2013, 12:08 PM

Posted more pictures in Photbucket link from the first post, please check out. I looked at the stampings on the band and clasp and nothing is laser etched it is all stamped if that helps...

77T · 11 January 2013, 02:44 PM

Sorry to say the additional pics don't change the original diagnosis IMHO. The Rolex brand and scroll work doesn't look right and appears to be off center by a few mm.

crowncollection · 11 January 2013, 04:39 PM

Clasp is fake imho

Kushing · 11 January 2013, 06:01 PM

I see how the rolex is offcentered. I also now get how the clasp doesnt match the band by model. Thanks, I'll report it to ebay…Damn I'm sad and so is my wife

Kushing · 12 January 2013, 03:18 AM

AS for the band what else are the red flags. I have another band and it is identical. Link edges, screws, and the stamping. Please advise

joseluu · 12 January 2013, 03:33 AM

Cases like this worry me a lot, as the bracelet itself has good looks to me.

Kushing · 12 January 2013, 05:26 AM

I'll post pics of the bezel in a minute...

Kushing · 12 January 2013, 05:52 AM

Bezel back posted on Photobucket link

10 January 2013, 10:48 AM	#1
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	Need Help with Band and Bezel Purchase Hello, I have been a member for a little while but this is my first post. I bought 2 items off ebay that I can't figure out if they are genuine Rolex. The first is a TT ladies Oyster Band. I was cheap and it looked right but this serial number range band was heavily copied to my knowledge and have heard about great copies. The second is a bezel for my GMT II Fat Lady and the number printing looks different than the original. This bezel was going to be used as a daily driver while the original stayed in better condition. Please advise. I know you guys hate this stuff but I feel like the market is so saturated with fakes and up where Im at ,it's a 6 hour drive to the first qualified opinion....thanks http://s705.beta.photobucket.com/use...20parts%20Ebay

10 January 2013, 02:16 PM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,188	The bracelet is a fake one... sorry __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

11 January 2013, 10:29 AM	#7
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,166	get us some better close up of the the clasp markings, but it looks fake, the set up appears wrong, we need to examine the stampings and scrolling better, as for the bezel we need good a close up of the back as well as the front of the bezel insert in clear macro. thanks __________________ watches many

11 January 2013, 02:44 PM	#10
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,977	Sorry to say the additional pics don't change the original diagnosis IMHO. The Rolex brand and scroll work doesn't look right and appears to be off center by a few mm. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

11 January 2013, 04:39 PM	#11
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,166	Clasp is fake imho __________________ watches many

10 January 2013, 03:54 PM	#3
turbineboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Watch: Angelus, AP, Breit Posts: 121	Curious to learn/know - but how does one spot a fake bracelet. Are those numbers not typical of this bracelet ?

11 January 2013, 10:00 AM	#5
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	Hmm, This is a ladies band, but Oyster, could it be a clasp off a Jubilee, and band of an oyster? Is it an outright copy and how could you tell? The reason I ask is this was an ebay purchase and I want to know how to state my case… I can give you the auction number if you need it . Thank you for your time and understanding

11 January 2013, 10:14 AM	#6
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	This the auction with discription http://www.ebay.com/itm/250989063983...84.m1497.l2649

11 January 2013, 11:11 AM	#8
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	Okay, I have a DSLR but I am not skilled…does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph these correctly? Cannon T2i 15+ MP. Sorry I am an amature but want to get it right. Thanks

11 January 2013, 12:08 PM	#9
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	Posted more pictures in Photbucket link from the first post, please check out. I looked at the stampings on the band and clasp and nothing is laser etched it is all stamped if that helps...

11 January 2013, 06:01 PM	#12
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	I see how the rolex is offcentered. I also now get how the clasp doesnt match the band by model. Thanks, I'll report it to ebay…Damn I'm sad and so is my wife

12 January 2013, 03:18 AM	#13
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	AS for the band what else are the red flags. I have another band and it is identical. Link edges, screws, and the stamping. Please advise

12 January 2013, 03:33 AM	#14
joseluu "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Madrid (Spain) Posts: 702	Cases like this worry me a lot, as the bracelet itself has good looks to me.

12 January 2013, 05:26 AM	#15
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	I'll post pics of the bezel in a minute...

12 January 2013, 05:52 AM	#16
Kushing Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 21	Bezel back posted on Photobucket link

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