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zapokee · 15 April 2013, 01:16 AM

Thinking of throwing down on this nice-looking 1977 Sub 5512 from a very reputable Tokyo vintage dealer. Looks great to me, but could do with the community's expertise... Anybody see any issues with it?

http://bit.ly/14n9A51

Details:
Caliber 1570 movement
Bracelet 7836 FF280 11 links
Price 778,000 yen (approx. 7,780 USD at current exchange rate) Probably higher than US prices, but that's standard for imported vintage in Japan.

Thanks all.

swish77 · 15 April 2013, 02:31 AM

Wow, great patina and very nice insert. For that kind of money, I'd want to see it in person, or at least get better photos of the lugs. You need to see them at an angle to help determine how much polish they've have. Service history? Photos of the movement and inside of the case? Also, that's not a 7836 bracelet. Looks like a 93150 that would have 580 end pieces. On the surface, and based on the photos, looks like a beauty. But I'd want a lot more info/photos if I were in the market. Good luck!

jatco · 15 April 2013, 02:50 AM

Very nice pics...to show off the patina and 'hue'/tone of the watch.. As 'swish77' mentions..etal ..I'd have to see it in person..
I have seen references to the 7836 and 93150 as being similar... http://www.google.ca/imgres?hl=en&bi...2&tx=173&ty=48
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but being no expert I could say for sure..-
It's a great looking Sub, for sure...
Good luck....!

strafer_kid · 15 April 2013, 04:06 AM

Looks like a real beauty!

Vincent65 · 15 April 2013, 05:03 AM

looks gorgeous

Beaumont Miller II · 15 April 2013, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swish77

Wow, great patina and very nice insert. For that kind of money, I'd want to see it in person, or at least get better photos of the lugs. You need to see them at an angle to help determine how much polish they've have. Service history? Photos of the movement and inside of the case? Also, that's not a 7836 bracelet. Looks like a 93150 that would have 580 end pieces. On the surface, and based on the photos, looks like a beauty. But I'd want a lot more info/photos if I were in the market. Good luck!

X2

Aaron has one of the nicest matte 5512's out there. I would take his advice. To me the dial looks like a very nice mk II maxi version. Good luck.

cop414 · 15 April 2013, 08:46 AM

I'm not any kind of a vintage expert but that does look really nice!

swish77 · 16 April 2013, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaumont Miller II

X2

Aaron has one of the nicest matte 5512's out there. I would take his advice. To me the dial looks like a very nice mk II maxi version. Good luck.

Thanks! Here's a shot of mine for comparison with the one the OP is looking at. Again, make sure you see the back/inside of the case/movement for any sign of corrosion.

Rolexis · 16 April 2013, 01:56 AM

Looks perfect. Love the patina. In a few years that will be the price for one that is not as nice.

zapokee · 16 April 2013, 10:24 AM

Thanks all! I'm going to view the watch in person today, so I'll post an update later.

Frogman4me · 16 April 2013, 10:32 AM

I want that insert! Looks like a great watch ;

Rolexis · 16 April 2013, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swish77

Thanks! Here's a shot of mine for comparison with the one the OP is looking at. Again, make sure you see the back/inside of the case/movement for any sign of corrosion.

I think this is a rail dial 5512. You see how the words line up like my 1665

zapokee · 16 April 2013, 07:08 PM

Thanks so much everyone. I went to see the watch today and it sang to me from the first instant. It's had some sympathetic polishing but still has a nice amount of its original form, and the photos don't do justice to the sheer beauty of the patina and the matte dial.

I had the dealer open up the case to show the movement and the writing inside the caseback, and everything was as it should be with no corrosion.

So I bought it, and managed to haggle a nice discount. The input of the forum has been great in supporting the purchase, for which thanks again to all.

The question is now, which strap to wear it on? Would welcome all your thoughts on this...

(Note: the link to the 5512 in the original post seems to have changed. It's now at http://bit.ly/SKXtpo, but who knows whether the URL will be changed again...)

HL65 · 16 April 2013, 07:52 PM

Good for you and congrats!! Cheers,

Knappo 1307 · 16 April 2013, 11:10 PM

Great watch, wear all the straps....

Beaumont Miller II · 17 April 2013, 12:00 AM

Brown leather strap for me. Congrats.

Renoir · 17 April 2013, 12:14 AM

Wonderful piece, congrats!

swish77 · 17 April 2013, 12:29 AM

Beautiful! Big congrats! Such nice patina! I vote for bracelet or NATO! Enjoy!

simplerolex · 17 April 2013, 08:43 AM

Very Clean, Congrats!!

Robbyvm · 17 April 2013, 04:59 PM

Oyster 4me

15 April 2013, 01:16 AM	#1
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,354	Your thoughts on this Sub 5512 Thinking of throwing down on this nice-looking 1977 Sub 5512 from a very reputable Tokyo vintage dealer. Looks great to me, but could do with the community's expertise... Anybody see any issues with it? http://bit.ly/14n9A51 Details: Caliber 1570 movement Bracelet 7836 FF280 11 links Price 778,000 yen (approx. 7,780 USD at current exchange rate) Probably higher than US prices, but that's standard for imported vintage in Japan. Thanks all.

15 April 2013, 02:50 AM	#3
jatco 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: YVR Watch: 116233/79190 Posts: 48,524	Very nice pics...to show off the patina and 'hue'/tone of the watch.. As 'swish77' mentions..etal ..I'd have to see it in person.. I have seen references to the 7836 and 93150 as being similar... http://www.google.ca/imgres?hl=en&bi...2&tx=173&ty=48 . but being no expert I could say for sure..- It's a great looking Sub, for sure... Good luck....! __________________ . . ' A Crown for every achievement '

15 April 2013, 08:46 AM	#7
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 71,870	I'm not any kind of a vintage expert but that does look really nice! __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

16 April 2013, 07:52 PM	#14
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,554	Good for you and congrats!! Cheers, __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

17 April 2013, 12:00 AM	#16
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	Brown leather strap for me. Congrats. __________________

15 April 2013, 02:31 AM	#2
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,846	Wow, great patina and very nice insert. For that kind of money, I'd want to see it in person, or at least get better photos of the lugs. You need to see them at an angle to help determine how much polish they've have. Service history? Photos of the movement and inside of the case? Also, that's not a 7836 bracelet. Looks like a 93150 that would have 580 end pieces. On the surface, and based on the photos, looks like a beauty. But I'd want a lot more info/photos if I were in the market. Good luck!

15 April 2013, 04:06 AM	#4
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,130	Looks like a real beauty!

15 April 2013, 05:03 AM	#5
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,297	looks gorgeous

16 April 2013, 01:56 AM	#9
Rolexis Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Hank Location: Wachula Watch: Had many love all Posts: 476	Looks perfect. Love the patina. In a few years that will be the price for one that is not as nice.

16 April 2013, 10:24 AM	#10
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,354	Thanks all! I'm going to view the watch in person today, so I'll post an update later.

16 April 2013, 10:32 AM	#11
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	I want that insert! Looks like a great watch ;

16 April 2013, 11:10 PM	#15
Knappo 1307 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,558	Great watch, wear all the straps....

17 April 2013, 12:14 AM	#17
Renoir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: New York Posts: 2,396	Wonderful piece, congrats!

17 April 2013, 12:29 AM	#18
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,846	Beautiful! Big congrats! Such nice patina! I vote for bracelet or NATO! Enjoy!

17 April 2013, 08:43 AM	#19
simplerolex Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Tony Location: Houston, TX Watch: Milsub 5513/5517 Posts: 143	Very Clean, Congrats!!

17 April 2013, 04:59 PM	#20
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	Oyster 4me

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