AP Diver or DeepSea???????

[dsk28]

Originally Posted by jojosnr

Don't you guys see that its weird for a whole ss watch to have two small black stud sticking out? Looks like a cartoon watch or a play watch to me. Sorry guys, just my opinion.

The Diver is one of the best looking and most popular AP ROO on the market. Those who are not fond of it...to each his own, and for those who likes it...Cheers!

[QueueCumber]

AP diver is a classier watch IMO. DSSD is a gimmick watch; no one dives to depths over 120 ft., and the AP diver well exceeds that depth by over three fold....

[smellychips]

DSSD too big? ... too bulky? .... not man enough to wear one?

try this:





(the GYM)

[Chary]

No brainer, AP all day. Rolex=Bmw AP= Ferrari. What do you prefer fixed up M6 or F430?

[jojosnr]

ha ha...... trying to draw a parallel with cars again. it's like trying to the skin off an apple with fingers.

[h999r]

Love both watches, owned both , but if I have to pick ... of course AP.

[mdtddd2007]

BTW two of them. AP Diver. Hands down!!!

[redsubby]

some pretty dumb negative comments toward the Deepsea

[DreambreaX]

Hublot 4000mm

Its made of titanium and for me the quality is high. I know most people here get stuck to their mind between rolex ap pp and panerai. They stuck into the brand more. Anything made by PP, even though its look damn ugly they appreciate it.

For me, i appreciate design quality rather than brand. So 1st i take hublot oceanographic.

[DreambreaX]

Originally Posted by redsubby

some pretty dumb negative comments toward the Deepsea

Because people here are brand minded. I have touch ap diver. I dont impressed with the quality. The bridges between the rubber and the case is sharp. I rubbed with my thumb i feel hurt. I dont like a quality like this.

[jojosnr]

Perhaps you meant AP, ".........Anything made by PP, even though its look damn ugly they appreciate it." and I agree with you looking at some of the die hards here. My own view is that some of the AP models with its choice of colours, face and the buttons, look like something Ultraman or the Power Rangers would wear.

That said, I like AP for some of the models.

Originally Posted by DreambreaX

Hublot 4000mm

Its made of titanium and for me the quality is high. I know most people here get stuck to their mind between rolex ap pp and panerai. They stuck into the brand more. Anything made by PP, even though its look damn ugly they appreciate it.

For me, i appreciate design quality rather than brand. So 1st i take hublot oceanographic.

[Watchflair]

DSSD is just too big, for me anyway. Not a fan of the bulkiness of the piece. Would much rather a regular sub c or another piece in general. Have u tried both on?

[BigTimeDenver]

BOTH of course! I love the utilitarianisim of the DSSD and the refined look of the the AP. When its moving dirt and rocks though, Im throwing on my DSSD

[HKRolexFans]

Both are nice can't really compare it side by side, apple and orange, but personally I will vote for Diver. Tried DS on wrist, not that good looking than a Diver, my 2 cents

[Bran66don]

I'd probably take a Sinn U1 over a DSSD, and it is about 1/10th of the cost.

[jojosnr]

Yes. The DSSD is not for the masses.

Originally Posted by Bran66don

I'd probably take a Sinn U1 over a DSSD, and it is about 1/10th of the cost.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by jojosnr

My own view is that some of the AP models with its choice of colours, face and the buttons, look like something Ultraman or the Power Rangers would wear.

Rolex have green and leopard watches, Omega orange, IWC and Breitling yellow ones - all brands have colourful, non-conservative and even garish parts of their collection.

[rolepam312]

Don't understand the DSSD.... It's just an overblown submariner??
On the other hand, AP diver is quite the watch... I'll take the AP any day ...

[jojosnr]

You are right, and there are many Ultramans and Power Rangers in this world.

Originally Posted by AK797

Rolex have green and leopard watches, Omega orange, IWC and Breitling yellow ones - all brands have colourful, non-conservative and even garish parts of their collection.

[jojosnr]

ha ha..... you made yourself very clear why you chose the diver.

Originally Posted by rolepam312

Don't understand the DSSD.... It's just an overblown submariner??
On the other hand, AP diver is quite the watch... I'll take the AP any day ...

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by Bran66don

I'd probably take a Sinn U1 over a DSSD, and it is about 1/10th of the cost.

It's ok, not every one can afford a Deepsea....but a Sinn compared to a Rolex? such a comical comparison.

Originally Posted by AK797

Rolex have green and leopard watches, Omega orange, IWC and Breitling yellow ones - all brands have colourful, non-conservative and even garish parts of their collection.

Colors is one thing, but as much as I like AP, it is very true that many look like some thing on a Power Rangers wrist. While there are many garish Rolexes, the majority are conservative, even the DSSD. It's criticism is just size related.

Originally Posted by rolepam312

Don't understand the DSSD.... It's just an overblown submariner??
On the other hand, AP diver is quite the watch... I'll take the AP any day ...

The AP Diver is quite the watch.....in what category, looks? That's subjective. It has a cumbersome timing bezel that's nearly useless, it's movement cannot compare in any way to the 3135 except maybe in finishing and the DSSD uses a better grade steel, and in my opinion is more flexible in more situations than a watch with a rubber band. So you can choose the AP if you prefer it's looks and finishing, but it's not a better watch.
Now I'm quite fond of the Diver and tried one on, and it did "look" fantastic and felt very comfortable to wear, yet when I put my Deepsea back on I was truly pleased to have chosen it.

The Deepsea is a bit heavy, but talking about it's over engineering is lame and shows a lack in logic. Like everyone here is running around timing races and events with all these chronos that even though light weight are incredibly and equally as large as the DSSD.

So it's all relative and personal preference, so if you don't like the DSSD, don't just complain about it's engineering, just say you don't like it, it's not for you.

[HL65]

The thread that keeps on going...

Whatever floats your boat..taste is subjective and certainly one will appeal to some and another to others.

[c.rod]

has anyone even considered price yet? isnt the ap about double the price of the dssd?

that has to account for something.

i wish people would stop thinking the dssd is some huge beast of a watch.. ITS NOT THAT BIG!! 43mm. put it next to a 47mm pam, or super avenger etc. to see how small it really is.
its a little on the tall side, but overall its not that big of a watch. in the pic above it looks tiny next to the AP.

[mailman]

The DSSD is big, tall and heavy. The thing I don't like about the AP Diver is the crown at the 10:00 position. I know it serves a purpose, but for me it's a deal breaker

[craniotes]

Actually, the in-house 3120, which is considered by many to be one of the finest automatic movements made, compares more than favorably with the mass-produced, workhorse 3135, surpassing it in several areas, in fact.

And then there's the finishing, which isn't even a contest (I'll let you guess who comes out the worse for wear in this comparison). This, of course, applies to the case, dial and hands as well.

Does this mean that the Diver is better than the DSSD? No, but it does mean that it's more expensive (human hands cost more than machines). For those who value things like hand-finishing and traditional watchmaking, the Diver is more than worth the premium.

Just sayin'.

Regards,
Adam

PS - The MSRP for the Diver is almost $19K; the MSRP for the DSSD is kissing $13K. When AD discounts are taken into account, the price difference is even less.

[incontrol]

I would be willing to bet that there is not one watch, based on aesthetics, that all of us could agree on. So far, based on everything I have read in this thread, I would pick.....not today!


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[exxondus]

Dont really like the DSSD. Way too thick for a daily watch imo. But in tetms of movement, i kinda prefer 3135. The 3120 time setting is a pain. The min hand tends to jump whenever i push the crown in!!

[singe89]

Originally Posted by exxondus

Dont really like the DSSD. Way too thick for a daily watch imo. But in tetms of movement, i kinda prefer 3135. The 3120 time setting is a pain. The min hand tends to jump whenever i push the crown in!!

Try winding the crown only a few times just to get the second hand moving (maybe 5 to 10 turns of the crown) then set the time/date and then wind it to full capacity. I've found that if I set the time/date when the mainspring isn't fully wound it won't jump when you push the crown back in.

[diver2012]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

the DSSD uses a better grade steel

I see you are a sucker for Rolex marketing...in what way is it better?

Do some research and you will find out it isn't any better at all - in fact it isn't as 'hard' as 316L. The only time it is of benefit having 904L is when you drop your watch in sulphuric acid...but you aren't going to be putting your hand in to get it if you do!

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by diver2012

I see you are a sucker for Rolex marketing...in what way is it better?

Do some research and you will find out it isn't any better at all - in fact it isn't as 'hard' as 316L. The only time it is of benefit having 904L is when you drop your watch in sulphuric acid...but you aren't going to be putting your hand in to get it if you do!

I think you need to do some research on pitting resistance, particularly as these are diving watches no. Then again the Diver is in fact a beautiful watch but a tool it is not. But hey I'm sure a better looking movement is worth more than a better working one, talk about marketing...