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JT46 · 19 March 2014, 12:13 AM

This looks remarkably clean for a 30 year old watch. I appreciate your expert thoughts and observations as well as speculation as to its value if it is thought to be genuine.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tchlink:top:en

Thanks and Regards,

JT

Lgear080 · 19 March 2014, 01:41 AM

Way too clean IMO.

I didn't look past the dial as it is clearly a new print.

Dan Pierce · 19 March 2014, 01:49 AM

Not a huge expert on these early Big Blocks but don't see anything that jumps out as non original.
dP

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 19 March 2014, 09:01 AM

never seen a dial like that before, ever!

JT46 · 19 March 2014, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Way too clean IMO.

I didn't look past the dial as it is clearly a new print.

Thanks for your observations, but what about this dial makes it "clearly" a reprint? What are the details that make you think the dial is not original? (I'm just trying to learn a bit.)

Thanks again

crowncollection · 19 March 2014, 09:49 PM

I would be hesitant although I have no direct issues. That case has no lug wear after 30 years ?

Lgear080 · 20 March 2014, 02:09 AM

30 years means there should be some wear, somewhere.

A watch face oxidizes over time and that print just looks too
Fresh. In addition, that seller is close to a lot of skilled techs
That could do the work I allude to.

JT46 · 20 March 2014, 03:30 AM

Thanks for the insight. I've posted a few questions to the seller. Maybe there's more info and/or pics.

JT46 · 25 March 2014, 11:12 AM

No answers from the seller to my questions, but the piece sold for $6250. Apparently someone though it was real enough.

Lgear080 · 25 March 2014, 02:35 PM

I really think someone got taken. I've always felt if there is one red flag it's worth
Passing on. In this case there was more than a few.

iclick · 25 March 2014, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Not a huge expert on these early Big Blocks but don't see anything that jumps out as non original.
dP

Same here. Final price was high, IMO.

iclick · 25 March 2014, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

30 years means there should be some wear, somewhere.

A watch face oxidizes over time and that print just looks too
Fresh. In addition, that seller is close to a lot of skilled techs
That could do the work I allude to.

I have a 43-YO GMT and a 20-YO Big Block 79170 chrono, and neither have any oxidation on the dial. I think this one is legitimate, just not worn much and well-pampered. Notice the tritium on the dial and hands match and are aged.

19 March 2014, 12:13 AM	#1
JT46 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Joe Location: New England, USA Watch: or not to Watch... Posts: 55	Tudor 94210 Monte Carlo This looks remarkably clean for a 30 year old watch. I appreciate your expert thoughts and observations as well as speculation as to its value if it is thought to be genuine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tchlink:top:en Thanks and Regards, JT

19 March 2014, 01:49 AM	#3
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 35,846	Not a huge expert on these early Big Blocks but don't see anything that jumps out as non original. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

19 March 2014, 09:01 AM	#4
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	never seen a dial like that before, ever! __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

19 March 2014, 09:49 PM	#6
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	I would be hesitant although I have no direct issues. That case has no lug wear after 30 years ? __________________ watches many

19 March 2014, 01:41 AM	#2
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Way too clean IMO. I didn't look past the dial as it is clearly a new print.

20 March 2014, 02:09 AM	#7
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	30 years means there should be some wear, somewhere. A watch face oxidizes over time and that print just looks too Fresh. In addition, that seller is close to a lot of skilled techs That could do the work I allude to.

20 March 2014, 03:30 AM	#8
JT46 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Joe Location: New England, USA Watch: or not to Watch... Posts: 55	Thanks for the insight. I've posted a few questions to the seller. Maybe there's more info and/or pics.

25 March 2014, 11:12 AM	#9
JT46 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Joe Location: New England, USA Watch: or not to Watch... Posts: 55	No answers from the seller to my questions, but the piece sold for $6250. Apparently someone though it was real enough.

25 March 2014, 02:35 PM	#10
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	I really think someone got taken. I've always felt if there is one red flag it's worth Passing on. In this case there was more than a few.

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