The Gelermans...

[Rolex40mm]

So…I am interested in a sales listing on eBay by global-time-hbg, which is a company operated by David Gelerman. I googled this guy and his company, and found some conflicting stories about thim. It seems that he had a son (Jordan) that was banned on TRF for trying to sell aftermarket Rolexes, and the two of them had a fallout of some sort. The kid calls his father a scammer, and vice versa. There are also stories about them selling stolen Rolexes, and some nasty customer service when they were confronted. I've done watch transactions for long enough to run away whenever i see the first red flag, or smell fish. But i thought i would take your opinions, since several members on this forum are now more familiar with these Flintstones. Do you guys think these people are worth my business?

Here's the listing i'm interested in:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-MENS-S...item3cdbd71bef

[joe100]

I think you've answered your own question. Buy from TRF trusted sellers and this question will never cross your mind

[teqp]

Based on what I read about these two on TRF, I would take my business elsewhere. Not worth the risk! There are plenty of solid sellers here that will not cause potential headaches.

[AbsolutelyROLEX!]

Originally Posted by joe100

I think you've answered your own question. Buy from TRF trusted sellers and this question will never cross your mind

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[Mosco]

Here's some reading material while you're on a toilet:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=331706

[Rolex40mm]

I would like to update everyone on Dave Gelerman from global-time-hbg. I ended up buying the 14060M from him, and he is really a legitimate guy. He's also a pleasure to do business with. Don't hesitate to buy from Dave! His prices are also fair.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Rolex40mm

So…I am interested in a sales listing on eBay by global-time-hbg, which is a company operated by David Gelerman. I googled this guy and his company, and found some conflicting stories about thim. It seems that he had a son (Jordan) that was banned on TRF for trying to sell aftermarket Rolexes, and the two of them had a fallout of some sort. The kid calls his father a scammer, and vice versa. There are also stories about them selling stolen Rolexes, and some nasty customer service when they were confronted. I've done watch transactions for long enough to run away whenever i see the first red flag, or smell fish. But i thought i would take your opinions, since several members on this forum are now more familiar with these Flintstones. Do you guys think these people are worth my business?

Here's the listing i'm interested in:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-MENS-S...item3cdbd71bef

Originally Posted by Rolex40mm

I would like to update everyone on Dave Gelerman from global-time-hbg. I ended up buying the 14060M from him, and he is really a legitimate guy. He's also a pleasure to do business with. Don't hesitate to buy from Dave! His prices are also fair.

[malisag]

I wanted to follow up after my previous post and advise the forum users of the resolution that was obtained with David Gelerman and Global Time Hbg.

I posted my previous comments after several attempts of trying to contact Global Time Hbg without success. Furthermore, and as mentioned previously, I did have contact with Jordan who had less than flattering things to say about his father. As a result, I saw no resolution to the situation.

A few weeks after my initial post, I got in touch with David Gelerman from Global Time Hbg. He was initially skeptical of my claims but after a very long discussion we made some headway. He asked me to call him back within a week while he looked into the matter. In the meantime, I forwarded him the letter we had received from Rolex as well as the police report indicating that the watch was stolen.

David had assured us that he was initially very surprised about the situation because something of this sort has never happened to him before and disclosed that he has been in the business since the late ‘70s and has thousands of great reviews on ebay. He soon after offered a resolution to the matter which I was content with; he offered for me to choose a comparable watch on his site and to send a notarized legal letter indicating that we would accept the watch as resolution to the matter. We thought this was a fair resolution. However, around the same time, the original watch that was given to me by my now deceased mother, became available through the authorized dealer from whom it was stolen. I really wanted to get that watch back because of the sentimental value. Also, I wasn’t finding anything very similar to it on Global-time-hbg’s ebay store. After a few suggestions by David that I declined he offered to give me a full refund of the money that we had originally sent him. It was one of the happiest days for me in years because it meant that I could buy back the original watch my mother had given to me as my dental school graduation gift before she died. I thought this was very big of David and clearly demonstrated his integrity and morality.

During our resolution period, my sister trusted David enough to even purchase a high end presidential watch from Global-time-hbg. I’ll let her discuss her experience with David in a separate thread.

I am most certainly satisfied with the amicable resolution that we reached with David and Global-time about the watch. I appreciate that things can go wrong in any business, but it really comes down to how someone deals with their customer and the issue at hand. I can’t be happier with the resolution and am very grateful that we did not have to take legal action. I believe that my initial response was initially aggravated by my inability to contact David and, more so, by the information we were given by Jordan Gelerman.
David has assured us that since this matter has come to our attention, he has crossed checked his inventory’s serial numbers and will continue to do so in the future.

I would certainly do business again with David Gelerman. He demonstrated integrity and sincerity in rectifying this issue and I can say with confidence that he is an honourable man.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by subtona

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[GB-man]

can't wait to do business with him

[Johny]

Originally Posted by tjspark

can't wait to do business with him

[Goiguidoc]

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