1675 Gilt Dial real or fake

[mp_vintage]

Thanks for everyone coming to discussion my watch
i bought it around 2500usd from old man
im so confuse on my 1675 gilt dial...

1.case back sign from 1960s,Dial r grilt in gold letters but dial below sing only "SWISS" not Double swiss and not minute ring dial and not SWiSS only with underline dial****

2.Patina in greenish and still shine

3.Hv no serial no.

i ever posted this watch on this page and have many collectors to discussion some people said correct and some people said not correct

Thanks abd enjoy to discussion my watch again

regard

[andromeda160]

Not sure about the dial, but you stole that baby, I love the eagle beak crown guards, my favorite sports model.

[QueueCumber]

No serial at all between lugs? Not even partial?

[mp_vintage]

yes,serial numbers has gone,just seen only these

[springer]

Not much good to say about this one...sorry. Refinished or aftermarket dial, poor case, severe rust, replaced hands and bezel insert. The bezel might be the original, early 1960s style but it is hard for me to judge this by the photos.

[cht]

Did the old man happen to mention the what he did to this watch???

:(

[harry in montreal]

For 2500 seems pretty good. I rather have this than a clean datejust.

[watchcrank]

Originally Posted by springer

Not much good to say about this one...sorry. Refinished or aftermarket dial, poor case, severe rust, replaced hands and bezel insert. The bezel might be the original, early 1960s style but it is hard for me to judge this by the photos.

Are you sure it's not one of the last "swiss" only dials? that has been re lumed and or touched up JP ?

[QueueCumber]

Reminds me of this thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=379085

Same pictures even!

[springer]

Originally Posted by watchcrank

Are you sure it's not one of the last "swiss" only dials? that has been re lumed and or touched up JP ?

Doesn't look like any I've seen Mike. If you have one, email it to me. The fonts are very "shakey" on this dial.

[Chunky]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Reminds me of this thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=379085

Same pictures even!

I agree, same pictures.

[springer]

Originally Posted by Chunky

I agree, same pictures.

If I remember correctly, it was determined that the dial was not genuine in this other thread. It does have the same photos that are found in this thread which makes it that much more interesting.

[watchcrank]

Originally Posted by springer

If I remember correctly, it was determined that the dial was not genuine in this other thread. It does have the same photos that are found in this thread which makes it that much more interesting.

Thanks JP. must be coming from same maker if same fonts. I have one I will take a close up of and compare. I have had two that came from old owners and fonts were similar but not same. M

Easy to tell now JP, side by side the Crown is not the tall weird one, the serifs are totally off and the spacing and style of the GMT-Master is as well.
I should not be taking quick glances without my glasses on :-)

[haven_seeker]

Originally Posted by Chunky

I agree, same pictures.

Given the fact it's the same pictures, as a worst case scenario, this could be a Chinese manufacturer rep making fake watches and running them across the resident experts here to see if they pass inspection/receive approval.

The duplicate pictures, coupled with the fact that both OP's have ~11 posts to their name, leave me skeptical.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by haven_seeker

Given the fact it's the same pictures, as a worst case scenario, this could be a Chinese manufacturer rep making fake watches and running them across the resident experts here to see if they pass inspection/receive approval.

The duplicate pictures, coupled with the fact that both OP's have ~11 posts to their name, leave me skeptical.

Interesting theory, but why post the same pictures instead of new ones based on a second iteration?

It also looks like the OP was saying (or trying to say) that he posted it here before and it sparked interesting debate. Perhaps he just lost his old account info and PW?

[Runfar]

the experts know way better- but bankok and 11 post and same photos screaming trouble to me

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by haven_seeker

Given the fact it's the same pictures, as a worst case scenario, this could be a Chinese manufacturer rep making fake watches and running them across the resident experts here to see if they pass inspection/receive approval.

The duplicate pictures, coupled with the fact that both OP's have ~11 posts to their name, leave me skeptical.

Originally Posted by Runfar

the experts know way better- but bankok and 11 post and same photos screaming trouble to me

Originally Posted by Chunky

I agree, same pictures.

BTW, you three are very low on posts as well. Maybe you are part of the conspiracy!

[harry in montreal]

So. I wish the original poster would explain himself. Same pics. I feel wronged.

[Chunky]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Interesting theory, but why post the same pictures instead of new ones based on a second iteration?

It also looks like the OP was saying (or trying to say) that he posted it here before and it sparked interesting debate. Perhaps he just lost his old account info and PW?

I never agreed with any theory. I realize now that the o.p. Is trying to get opinions again. I am not crazy about this dial & would stay away from it. That's my two cents.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by Chunky

I never agreed with any theory. I realize now that the o.p. Is trying to get opinions again. I am not crazy about this dial & would stay away from it. That's my two cents.

That's exactly what a conspirator would say!!!

[Chunky]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

That's exactly what a conspirator would say!!!

[mp_vintage]

Sorry if i make some confuse for twice posted,but in last posted my friend post it for me and has many discussion (some look correct and some look not correct),BTW now i posted it by myself and i thought some collectors did not seen that post.Im ower of these watch and i hv already bought it,correct it and still wear it.
For this post i hope all collectors forget my last post and discuss again in this post

This watch s very interresting for me,i never seen fake dial same and i never seen real dial same these too.

Just enjoy it.Thanks

[haven_seeker]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

BTW, you three are very low on posts as well. Maybe you are part of the conspiracy!

My Rolex has a battery in it so what do I know!!!

[Chunky]

Originally Posted by haven_seeker

My Rolex has a battery in it so what do I know!!!