Rolex Rep said...

[BLACKHORSE 6]

Only time will tell.

[logan5tx]

My AD on Texas said it would be harder to get than the Daytona as well.

[HogwldFLTR]

My AD said the same.

[oldman2005]

Thanks God it's not my cup of tea...Rolex can keep it :)

[gccmd]

I put down a deposit and I'm second on the list at my AD for the SS Skydweller with the blue face. I got my dealers first white face DaytonaC last year. The impression I got was that the SS Skydweller would be easier to obtain than the DaytonaC.

[Dj_masse]

My AD's waitlist for Daytona C is 5 years and they're not taking anymore names. Just got an email from them today....end of year/early new year for SkyD. Thinking of putting a deposit on a blue dial.

[Canefan1]

Last week there were 2 in the display cases at Luxury Swiss in Miami.

[Sam Philip]

I was talking to a store manager who had been in the business for years recently and he said the same about the SS Sky Dweller.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Etschell

You know what is funny. The pm sky d isn't a popular seller compared to the other pm watches.

Now the ss one is? I don't buy it. Perhaps rolex simply don't want to make a mistake over producing the watch.

Not knocking the watch. But give me a break rolex. How is this not the case with the insanely popular SubC or blnr. Even a similarly complicated watch, the ym 2, isn't tough to source in ss.

Price is a big factor, we also see that with Patek and the 5524, which was not received well at all, but now the new 5522, which is priced very reasonably, much like the D500, looks like being a big hit.

So far the US seems to have been immune to the tightening of Rolex supply which is spreading across the world, same with Patek sports watches, but I think that might be changing. Something systemic seems to be changing in the world of luxury sports watches with an emphasis on supply led exclusivity and complicit greys ramping up prices.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by AK797

Price is a big factor, we also see that with Patek and the 5524, which was not received well at all, but now the new 5522, which is priced very reasonably, much like the D500, looks like being a big hit.

So far the US seems to have been immune to the tightening of Rolex supply which is spreading across the world, same with Patek sports watches, but I think that might be changing. Something systemic seems to be changing in the world of luxury sports watches with an emphasis on supply led exclusivity and complicit greys ramping up prices.

Perhaps. I appreciate the input.

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[AK797]

Originally Posted by Etschell

Perhaps. I appreciate the input.

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You know, Eliot, I feel like it's a bit like the start of American Psycho... things are calm on the surface but underneath things are almost on the verge of frenzy...

For example I just saw that greys are now selling my RG Nautilus for well over 30% more than I paid, which means I would probably make 20% if I sold mine, whereas on a full gold piece I would have expected to lose 20/30%... things just seem to be overheating right now... a raging bull market for watches that has me uneasy...

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by AK797

You know, Eliot, I feel like it's a bit like the start of American Psycho... things are calm on the surface but underneath things are almost like on the verge of frenzy...

For example I just saw that greys are now selling my RG Nautilus for well over 30% more than I paid, which means I would probably make 20% if I sold mine, whereas on a full gold piece I would have expected to lose 20/30%... things just seem to be overheating right now... a raging bull market for watches that has me uneasy...

I was considering putting my name down for a 5711, waiting for 3 years to get it and flipping it. It's nutty but I get it.

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[AK797]

Originally Posted by Etschell

I was considering putting my name down for a 5711, waiting for 3 years to get it and flipping it. It's nutty but I get it.

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It's easy money if you can get one, and even tho I am on this forum largely to take a break from markets and prices et all, there's no denying the watch market is highly tradeable right now.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by AK797

a raging bull market for watches that has me uneasy...

It's insane Neil. We all know which way the tide is headed. The last year has been most unusual for watch collecting

[AK797]

Originally Posted by GB-man

It's insane Neil. We all know which way the tide is headed. The last year has been most unusual for watch collecting

It has, but do watch markets really crash? As this is supply led and not driven only by demand I think this might be sustainable for quite a period. It's almost like the Daytona model has been used now on other popular SS and on new Basel models, and Patek are taking notice. Maybe others will too.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by AK797

It has, but do watch markets really crash? As this is supply led and not driven only by demand I think this might be sustainable for quite a period. It's almost like the Daytona model has been used now on other popular SS and on new Basel models, and Patek are taking notice. Maybe others will too.

They don't crash but the weaker brands go the way of the dinosaur. Just look how many never came back after the quartz revolution.

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