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29 September 2017, 06:24 AM | #1 |
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£300,000 Timepiece
Learned friends I have been asked (or tasked) to help a high net worth gentleman find a special timepiece. Until we meet and I learn more about him the only information I have is that he wants under the radar except to those in the know. It will be worn regularly and not put away and the budget may stretch to £300k.
Please share some dream pieces, the usual, the unusual and the left field as I'd like to offer a good range of ideas. Looking forward to responses.
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29 September 2017, 06:43 AM | #2 |
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Patek 5078P.
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29 September 2017, 06:47 AM | #3 |
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Pan Am white dial GMT or white dial sub. Maybe a Paul Newman Daytona or more modern a Breitling Mulliner Tourbillon...
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bespoke Roger Smith?
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29 September 2017, 07:08 AM | #5 |
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Just a few weeks back , a Chinese working colleague of mine , a serious watch connoisseur and Endocrinologist wore this watch while examining patients at the outpatient department of a Malaysian Government hospital from 8am to 5pm in the presence of the attending nurses and other doctors. Surprisingly no one made any passing comment or noticed what was on his wrist the whole time until I happen to bump into him at the carpark after work.
It was one of those jaw dropping moments I would never ever forget and I almost fainted when I saw what he was wearing https://youtu.be/fe1UeymzfHs |
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These two come to mind.. I've been lucky enough to handle them.
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The only one I can think of
Roger dubuis tourbillion for statement Or Something patek...for the refined |
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Patek 5178G or 5204P
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Patek 5370P Patek 5711P Super clean vintage Rolex 6538 big crown Rolex 5517 mil sub Honestly those are the only ones I'd consider with that budget. I have no idea what a nice big crown or 5517 goes for these days.
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Grand Seiko SBGD202 (or 201) – https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=544825 – although might not be expensive enough, and too under the radar!
Case width might be a slight issue, depending on his wrist shape and size. What sort of occasions will he be wearing it? Daily at the office or more evening time while attending various functions, etc? I’m going to ignore the case aspect, and throw out ones that may do the trick. In no particular order: Chopard LUC Tourbillon Tech Steel Wings Ferdinand Berthoud FB1 Gronefeld Parallax Tourbillon Andreas Strehler Sauterelle à Lune Perpétuelle Romain Gauthier Logical One (Manufacture Contemporaine Du Temps) MCT S200 Frédéric Jouvenot Helios Christian Klings Credor GBLS998 Minute Repeater Credor Eichi II Harry Winston Opus 12 Chopard LUC Full Strike Minute Repeater Akrivia Tourbillon Heure Minute A Favre & Fils 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 Hugo Angelus U20, U21 McGonigle Volker Vyskocil Christophe Claret Maestoso Paul Gerber Model 41 Bexei (Aaron Becsei) Julien Coudray Bovet Some of those will permit customisation of case material, dial design, etc, which might be more appealing, and prices aren’t all pegged in the 6 figure range either – no need to spend any more than necessary to get what takes his fancy. |
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At that budget I'd do either one of:
1. Lange 1 Tourbillion Perpetual (315,900 EUR): 2. Patek 5078P ($385,000 USD): 3. Patek 5204P ($317,500 USD): 4. AP Royal Oak Tourbillon Chronograph Squelette ($297,000 USD): |
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The Lange Tourbillion is a beautiful time piece. Great choice on your options. |
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This is an amazing problem to have! It's also a super cool adventure to be apart of! Enjoy!
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So he outsourced to you and you to TRF, fun
Platinum and Patek come to mind |
29 September 2017, 03:39 PM | #20 |
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Thank you all for some incredible answers. They have all been added to my list. PP would be my top of the list as certain models could be good investments. I'll keep you posted.
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I would add the datograph perpetual tourbillon and Master Ultra Thin Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon from JLC.
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29 September 2017, 09:32 PM | #22 |
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A Lange Sohne Double Split Chronograph
Laurent Ferrier or Anything but Urwerk
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Oh that's an easy one, for that kind of cash either bespoke Roger Smith or bespoke Voutilainen, I did a unique piece but with the regular 28 movement, and the dial, to which I chose the colors and added numerals, all the rest I chose, but for 300k I think he can make him a serious really unique piece with unique movement, go see his website, he has pics of some of the unique pieces he made for people, the experience is amazing really, you are not buying a watch, you are choosing what you want and he makes the watch for you, for 3 times my budget I think he can get something amazing, Roger Smith is more expensive, and to be honest not a big fan of many of his designs, Kari Voutilainen is more funky, but maybe your client will prefer R Smith's style than KV, for me much prefer KV.
Anyways here are pics of mine if it can give him ideas, and in WG it's very under the radar... Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk |
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And many other answers given are amazing but many really don't fit the "under the radar" bill |
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I know very well the OP will choose the PP. Oh, he will. Don't you worry about that. It was never in doubt in my mind as soon as I saw the numbers he was quoting. Of course everyone is entitled to offer their thoughts and opinions. It is very easy to suggest a PP but I'm a rebel and chose to be different and defiant ! The OP did mention about an exotic unusual dream timepiece but trust me, only a few ( including me ) on the forum would actually understand the incredibly sophisticated movement and complications of a watch that took 5 years to create. Have a great weekend Sir . |
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some nice RM in that range too
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Oh I know that it is an incredible watch, not sure he will choose a PP, I chose a Voutilainen, and for me that amount is a lot of money, but I love watches and wanted something unique and made to order, I love the watch but knowing there is only one in the world like it is an amazing feeling, for a little more I could've gotten a PP 5270, but I prefer the Voutilainen, and it being very under the radar is great, any complications on the dial give a potential thief the "it's expensive" warning, no risk with mine, and I wear it daily, don't think that would've been the case with a 5270... Have a great weekend as well Thanks, and yes practically no one in the world knows what it is or could guess that it is worth a lot, and that's great, chances of being attacked for a Rolex are probably a million times higher than with mine, another member has gotten one as well, both threads are in this section, but check out his website to see the unique pieces with complications he has made, most are amazing and really under the radar for 99.99999999% of people |
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30 September 2017, 11:12 AM | #30 |
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Several Pateks in that price range as others mentioned above. Of course there are several RMs that would fit into that category.
I would also consider Greubel Forsey, although the brand does not get a lot of attention here. |
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