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DaytonaSubmariner · 31 July 2018, 05:48 AM

All,
I had the unpleasant experience of purchasing a fake Tudor off eBay. According to eBay policy, it is the sole responsibility of the seller to ensure they are accurately describing what is being sold. If it is not, then the buyer is protected.
I received the watch and basically immediately called the seller and told them that it was not real. I took it to a Rolex AD and they confirmed it was not real. The seller stated that they had the watch checked by "someone" before they put it up for sale and that it was genuine.
I asked for a refund and they agreed.
I have received a full refund.

Here's where it gets tricky. I paid $3550 for the watch. I did not want it sent via regular mail with no insurance. I said I would pay for the shipping. I did not pay for the shipping at all, the seller did.
Here's my dilemma. They want me to pay the $72.50 that it cost them to pay for the insured shipping.
I had no problem paying that amount to ship it, when I thought it was a genuine watch. It turned out to be fake. So, because I was dupped into buying a fake watch, it's going to cost ME $72.50 out of my pocket because they feel they shouldn't have to pay that when I said I would.
Again, I would have gladly paid the money, IF it were a real watch.

For me, this is about principle. You sold me a fake watch. Then everything after that should fall on you, not me.

Thoughts?

Oh, she also said that the watch is sold again. I asked if she told the new buyer that it was fake.

CorradoBrit · 31 July 2018, 06:01 AM

Tell them to go pound sand. Or just don't respond. Since you have received your refund through the Ebay buyer protection scheme the case is now closed.

If you want to contact seller just say on further reflection you feel they should bare the brunt of any costs incurred for returning the fake. You bought it in good faith and were duped.

DaytonaSubmariner · 31 July 2018, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Tell them to go pound sand. Or just don't respond. Since you have received your refund through the Ebay buyer protection scheme the case is now closed.

If you want to contact seller just say on further reflection you feel they should bare the brunt of any costs incurred for returning the fake. You bought it in good faith and were duped.

That's basically what I was going to say.

The seller actually did refund my money directly. EBay didn't have to get involved.

If they push it, I could ask for a cost to ship something for $15 (basically the cost of a fake watch LOL!)

I'm more than likely going to ignore them.

City74 · 31 July 2018, 06:18 AM

Yea, selling a fake changes it all. You shouldn’t have to pay anything to return it.

DoDe · 31 July 2018, 06:22 AM

Just returned a Rolex Explorer which was not as described. I got a refund. But eBay «closed the case», for reasons unknown, before the seller (scammer) had refunded the return shipping costs (200 pounds). Never ever eBay again.

roach7 · 31 July 2018, 06:42 AM

who's the seller so we can put on the DO-NOT-BUY seller list?

DoDe · 31 July 2018, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by roach7

who's the seller so we can put on the DO-NOT-BUY seller list?

In my case it was seller 30000276 on eBay.

tudorbaja27 · 31 July 2018, 08:30 AM

Ignore. He sold you a fake watch.

Bxtek · 31 July 2018, 08:50 AM

No way. I wouldn't pay anything! It was all the seller's fault and wrong doing with NO fault on your part. You're already out on the time you spent to have it verified by RSC, and out on the hassle of shipping it back, plus the money out of your pocket for however long it took to do all this. You shouldn't be out an additional $72.50. If anything, the seller should actually give YOU something for your time. Take that $72.50 and take a friend to lunch or something. That seller sure has a lot of nerve imo, trying to ask you to pay the shipping!

DaytonaSubmariner · 31 July 2018, 10:08 AM

For me, it was forever collectibles 2013 (no spaces).

What does disturb me is that she said it was already sold prior to me sending it back. Not good at all.

offrdmania · 31 July 2018, 12:10 PM

Let them know that they can either leave it be or they can have the shipping back along with a call to their local police department and a report of selling fake goods. Which would they prefer?

DaytonaSubmariner · 31 July 2018, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

Let them know that they can either leave it be or they can have the shipping back along with a call to their local police department and a report of selling fake goods. Which would they prefer?

I had alluded to that prior to me getting my refund. I told them that they broke several laws selling fake goods. I also stated that I would notify Rolex/Tudor to let them know that they were selling fake watches as well.

Lastly, I told her to send it in to Rolex to get service done on it. She'll never see it again as they seize fake watches.

31 July 2018, 05:48 AM	#1
DaytonaSubmariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Rob Location: US Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 233	Question regarding refunding shipping costs to seller of fake Tudor All, I had the unpleasant experience of purchasing a fake Tudor off eBay. According to eBay policy, it is the sole responsibility of the seller to ensure they are accurately describing what is being sold. If it is not, then the buyer is protected. I received the watch and basically immediately called the seller and told them that it was not real. I took it to a Rolex AD and they confirmed it was not real. The seller stated that they had the watch checked by "someone" before they put it up for sale and that it was genuine. I asked for a refund and they agreed. I have received a full refund. Here's where it gets tricky. I paid $3550 for the watch. I did not want it sent via regular mail with no insurance. I said I would pay for the shipping. I did not pay for the shipping at all, the seller did. Here's my dilemma. They want me to pay the $72.50 that it cost them to pay for the insured shipping. I had no problem paying that amount to ship it, when I thought it was a genuine watch. It turned out to be fake. So, because I was dupped into buying a fake watch, it's going to cost ME $72.50 out of my pocket because they feel they shouldn't have to pay that when I said I would. Again, I would have gladly paid the money, IF it were a real watch. For me, this is about principle. You sold me a fake watch. Then everything after that should fall on you, not me. Thoughts? Oh, she also said that the watch is sold again. I asked if she told the new buyer that it was fake.

31 July 2018, 08:30 AM	#8
tudorbaja27 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Miami, FL Watch: Tudor & Cartier Posts: 2,497	Ignore. He sold you a fake watch. __________________ "Chi ha paura muore ogni giorno, chi non ha paura muore una volta sola" - Paolo Borsellino

31 July 2018, 12:10 PM	#11
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,866	Let them know that they can either leave it be or they can have the shipping back along with a call to their local police department and a report of selling fake goods. Which would they prefer? __________________ TRF Member 11738

31 July 2018, 06:01 AM	#2
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Tell them to go pound sand. Or just don't respond. Since you have received your refund through the Ebay buyer protection scheme the case is now closed. If you want to contact seller just say on further reflection you feel they should bare the brunt of any costs incurred for returning the fake. You bought it in good faith and were duped.

31 July 2018, 06:18 AM	#4
City74 Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Bradley Location: Virginia Watch: Speedy Reduced Posts: 727	Yea, selling a fake changes it all. You shouldn’t have to pay anything to return it.

31 July 2018, 06:22 AM	#5
DoDe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Norway Posts: 628	Just returned a Rolex Explorer which was not as described. I got a refund. But eBay «closed the case», for reasons unknown, before the seller (scammer) had refunded the return shipping costs (200 pounds). Never ever eBay again.

31 July 2018, 06:42 AM	#6
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	who's the seller so we can put on the DO-NOT-BUY seller list?

31 July 2018, 08:50 AM	#9
Bxtek "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: CA Posts: 2,549	No way. I wouldn't pay anything! It was all the seller's fault and wrong doing with NO fault on your part. You're already out on the time you spent to have it verified by RSC, and out on the hassle of shipping it back, plus the money out of your pocket for however long it took to do all this. You shouldn't be out an additional $72.50. If anything, the seller should actually give YOU something for your time. Take that $72.50 and take a friend to lunch or something. That seller sure has a lot of nerve imo, trying to ask you to pay the shipping!

31 July 2018, 10:08 AM	#10
DaytonaSubmariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Rob Location: US Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 233	For me, it was forever collectibles 2013 (no spaces). What does disturb me is that she said it was already sold prior to me sending it back. Not good at all.

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