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323ci · 6 July 2006, 08:04 AM

Hey guys
Just curious as to how you would tell if this watch is a replica or not? (asides from the obvious movement)
It looks like a pretty good watch to me . . . is that movement any good????

mailman · 6 July 2006, 08:22 AM

To me the dial looks shi**y.

The hr markers and printing just don't look right.

Prince · 6 July 2006, 08:33 AM

I know you said "aside from the obvious movement", but you can't discount the movement when checking for authenticity. In this case, the movement definitely gives it away. None of the hallmark signs of an authentic Rolex movement are evident. Bigtime FAKE!

It should look like this:

If the picture of the watch dial had the bezel placed in its default position, more could have been determined. And a closer inspection of the dial itself would probably reveal even more. Remember, these fakes are getting better and better at deception!

Mark · 6 July 2006, 10:04 AM

Cyclops to far to the right.
Rolex crown visable at the 6.
Crown Guards oversized and sloppy.
Movement.

****Many more flaws if I could hold the watch in my hands. I can spot a fake Sub in 5 seconds flat.

Mark · 6 July 2006, 10:10 AM

See this thread too...
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...3900#post83900

mike · 6 July 2006, 10:14 AM

The font is awfull.

REXMTL · 6 July 2006, 11:19 AM

At 1st glace it just looks wrong. The dial is way off with the markers and as Mike just stated the font looks bad (cheap)
Even if you don't have the opportunity to look at the movement there are a lot of give-aways.... Usually you just get a gut feeling as soon as you lay your eyes on one of these...
Just MHO

gforce · 6 July 2006, 12:53 PM

anyone have that same watch, but original, and maybe place the pics side by side for us beginers..?

C.J. · 6 July 2006, 12:56 PM

I'm no expert, the other guys here are alot better at this than I am, but the visible crown etching is a dead give away

There is something about the lettering, I can't tell what exactly though

Mark · 6 July 2006, 01:31 PM

Here's a shot of mine.

323ci · 6 July 2006, 01:37 PM

thanks guys, but whats this crown you keep talking about at the 6 oclock position?? Isnt that supposed to be there in the new models????

323ci · 6 July 2006, 01:38 PM

BTW REV what camera are you using??? Thats a gorgeous pic . . .

Loaded · 6 July 2006, 01:54 PM

I am sure I will thrown in the pit of rolex fire and hell but i think it looks nice. 99% of the people including me couldnt tell the diff.
How much was it and PM me with where you got it I would be interested in using one for my travels to the sand box

JJ Irani · 6 July 2006, 04:12 PM

Hi 323,

If the movement is an obvious fake, rest assured the remainder of the watch is just that - FAKE!! I really wouldn't bother with that POS.

Honestly, I'd rather wear a genuine Timex than any fake watch.

JJ

padi56 · 6 July 2006, 06:54 PM

Well there are so many things wrong with the dial and fonts.But the movement looks like a guilded ETA 2824-2.But without seeing the balance wheel cannot be certain.The Chinese now are making copies of ETA and Valjoux movements.A fake is a fake and people who buy this stuff fool nobody but themselves IMHO.

mailman · 6 July 2006, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev

****Many more flaws if I could hold the watch in my hands. I can spot a fake Sub in 5 seconds flat.

Good thing you can't do the same with a Daytona.

Gedanken · 6 July 2006, 09:21 PM

Hell, I'm not even an LV fan but that hurts my eyes!

Otis · 6 July 2006, 10:21 PM

Hmmmm.... how awful! the bezel looks like cheap plastic too.

I don't know how people can buy fakes. After owning/wearing 'real' watches, I just couldn't comprehend wearing a fake. I mean, you know it's a cheap tin can, and there's no pride to be had in it.
You may as well buy a 10yr old Holden Barina, put a coffee can over the exhaust, attach big offensive wheels and affix a 'bad boy' sticker.
You'd be about the same in my books....
sheesh

colemanitis · 6 July 2006, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 323ci

thanks guys, but whats this crown you keep talking about at the 6 oclock position?? Isnt that supposed to be there in the new models????

Yes, however it can't be seen with the naked eye.

Gedanken · 6 July 2006, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis

You may as well buy a 10yr old Holden Barina, put a coffee can over the exhaust, attach big offensive wheels and affix a 'bad boy' sticker.

Hey, maybe that's what I'll do with Sash's Barina! Hell, at the least it'll distract people from the smoke.

Otis · 6 July 2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Hey, maybe that's what I'll do with Sash's Barina! Hell, at the least it'll distract people from the smoke.

It'll go even faster if you paint a giant, red R on it!

But, there's nothing wrong with small, economical hatchbacks. They kept me mobile through uni (accompanied by plenty of smoke too!), and with fuel prices as ludicrous as they are nowadays it's got to be helpful.

323ci · 7 July 2006, 12:03 AM

this watch isnt mine!!!! i just found some guy selling it but he never said it was a fake . . . i figured it was

Loaded · 7 July 2006, 02:42 AM

its a nice looking fake. I will now hide in shame

SLRdude · 7 July 2006, 08:41 AM

Am I insane or is your hour hand missing a portion of it?

Mark · 7 July 2006, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comatox

Am I insane or is your hour hand missing a portion of it?

http://rolexforums.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1152156644

Wow....you made me go take that baby out of the drawer and look. It is actually a optical illusion. The outer part of tha hand is shiny and chrome like. When I turned the watch at a certain angle, I was able to reproduce the effect.

Very good eyes you have Chip !

Mark · 7 July 2006, 09:39 AM

Another shot to prove it's not a defective hour hand. Damn you scared me.

Prince · 7 July 2006, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev

Another shot to prove it's not a defective hour hand. Damn you scared me.

It's OK, Mark. JJ is the only one with a fake Sub!

Mark · 7 July 2006, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

It's OK, Mark. JJ is the only one with a fake Sub!

I'm chillin !

SLRdude · 7 July 2006, 03:00 PM

LMAO Mark!!
Never meant that it was a fake sub!

It's just that in that one pic it looks like somebody took a bite out of your hour hand!

6 July 2006, 08:04 AM	#1
323ci Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 84	Replica Submariner ??? Hey guys Just curious as to how you would tell if this watch is a replica or not? (asides from the obvious movement) It looks like a pretty good watch to me . . . is that movement any good????

6 July 2006, 08:33 AM	#3
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	I know you said "aside from the obvious movement", but you can't discount the movement when checking for authenticity. In this case, the movement definitely gives it away. None of the hallmark signs of an authentic Rolex movement are evident. Bigtime FAKE! It should look like this: If the picture of the watch dial had the bezel placed in its default position, more could have been determined. And a closer inspection of the dial itself would probably reveal even more. Remember, these fakes are getting better and better at deception! __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

6 July 2006, 12:53 PM	#8
gforce "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Gabriel Location: las vegas Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 425	anyone have that same watch, but original, and maybe place the pics side by side for us beginers..? __________________ -GFORCE SEA-DWELLER 4000 ft = 1220 m BTS TATTOOS

6 July 2006, 12:56 PM	#9
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	I'm no expert, the other guys here are alot better at this than I am, but the visible crown etching is a dead give away There is something about the lettering, I can't tell what exactly though __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there

6 July 2006, 04:12 PM	#14
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Hi 323, If the movement is an obvious fake, rest assured the remainder of the watch is just that - FAKE!! I really wouldn't bother with that POS. Honestly, I'd rather wear a genuine Timex than any fake watch. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

6 July 2006, 08:22 AM	#2
mailman TRF Moderator & DATE-JUST41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,396	To me the dial looks shi**y. The hr markers and printing just don't look right.

6 July 2006, 10:04 AM	#4
Mark TRF Founder Join Date: Nov 2004 Real Name: Mark Location: Florida Watch: PAM 187 / SS LV Posts: 719	Cyclops to far to the right. Rolex crown visable at the 6. Crown Guards oversized and sloppy. Movement. ****Many more flaws if I could hold the watch in my hands. I can spot a fake Sub in 5 seconds flat.

6 July 2006, 10:10 AM	#5
Mark TRF Founder Join Date: Nov 2004 Real Name: Mark Location: Florida Watch: PAM 187 / SS LV Posts: 719	See this thread too... http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...3900#post83900

6 July 2006, 10:14 AM	#6
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	The font is awfull.

6 July 2006, 11:19 AM	#7
REXMTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Watch: Sub Date - PAM673 Posts: 88	At 1st glace it just looks wrong. The dial is way off with the markers and as Mike just stated the font looks bad (cheap) Even if you don't have the opportunity to look at the movement there are a lot of give-aways.... Usually you just get a gut feeling as soon as you lay your eyes on one of these... Just MHO

6 July 2006, 01:37 PM	#11
323ci Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 84	thanks guys, but whats this crown you keep talking about at the 6 oclock position?? Isnt that supposed to be there in the new models????

6 July 2006, 01:38 PM	#12
323ci Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 84	BTW REV what camera are you using??? Thats a gorgeous pic . . .

6 July 2006, 01:54 PM	#13
Loaded Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Your minds eye Watch: SD/TTDJ Posts: 56	I am sure I will thrown in the pit of rolex fire and hell but i think it looks nice. 99% of the people including me couldnt tell the diff. How much was it and PM me with where you got it I would be interested in using one for my travels to the sand box

6 July 2006, 06:54 PM	#15
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,553	Well there are so many things wrong with the dial and fonts.But the movement looks like a guilded ETA 2824-2.But without seeing the balance wheel cannot be certain.The Chinese now are making copies of ETA and Valjoux movements.A fake is a fake and people who buy this stuff fool nobody but themselves IMHO. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

6 July 2006, 09:21 PM	#17
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Hell, I'm not even an LV fan but that hurts my eyes! __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

6 July 2006, 10:21 PM	#18
Otis "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Urs Location: QLD AU Watch: Omega x 2 Posts: 2,046	Hmmmm.... how awful! the bezel looks like cheap plastic too. I don't know how people can buy fakes. After owning/wearing 'real' watches, I just couldn't comprehend wearing a fake. I mean, you know it's a cheap tin can, and there's no pride to be had in it. You may as well buy a 10yr old Holden Barina, put a coffee can over the exhaust, attach big offensive wheels and affix a 'bad boy' sticker. You'd be about the same in my books.... sheesh __________________ Rock the Casbah!

7 July 2006, 12:03 AM	#22
323ci Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 84	this watch isnt mine!!!! i just found some guy selling it but he never said it was a fake . . . i figured it was

7 July 2006, 02:42 AM	#23
Loaded Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Your minds eye Watch: SD/TTDJ Posts: 56	its a nice looking fake. I will now hide in shame

7 July 2006, 08:41 AM	#24
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	Am I insane or is your hour hand missing a portion of it? __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

7 July 2006, 03:00 PM	#29
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	LMAO Mark!! Never meant that it was a fake sub! It's just that in that one pic it looks like somebody took a bite out of your hour hand! __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

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