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Samui · 8 October 2016, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by belligero

En fait, les deux sont pariels en taille.

It's the 5976 that has the ridiculous case diameter. :)

This.

yjfang · 8 October 2016, 12:45 PM

Wow...keeps getting better.

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Originally Posted by HorologyK

It's Patek. All new app pieces req 50K deposit as of 10/1

Oryx · 8 October 2016, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Sounds like an AD requirement NOT PP

Defo seems go be an AD requirement - it's strange as I am not aware of PP taking advance payment from their ADs so not sure how they can justify this position

unknown · 8 October 2016, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HorologyK

It's Patek. All new app pieces req 50K deposit as of 10/1

Wrong
Like said before I have both and don't have to pay 1 euro in advance
This must be BS some AD told you

Russell996 · 8 October 2016, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

Wrong

Like said before I have both and don't have to pay 1 euro in advance

This must be BS some AD told you

I confused, what do you mean you have both? The AD's are in still in the process of submitting names which has a 2-3 week deadline and THEN Patek will decide on allocation. Do you mean your AD is/has put you forward for both?

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unknown · 8 October 2016, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

I confused, what do you mean you have both? The AD's are in still in the process of submitting names which has a 2-3 week deadline and THEN Patek will decide on allocation. Do you mean your AD is/has put you forward for both?

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oops, that was of course a mistake

I CAN have both from my AD

KarlS · 8 October 2016, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Sounds like an AD requirement NOT PP

Spoke to my AD no deposit requirement as if you back out Geneva will allocate to the. Ext person on THEIR list!! The AD never holds the watch And only pays Patek on delivery!.

Hamish · 8 October 2016, 10:19 PM

This

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarlS

Spoke to my AD no deposit requirement as if you back out Geneva will allocate to the. Ext person on THEIR list!! The AD never holds the watch And only pays Patek on delivery!.

texex91 · 8 October 2016, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HorologyK

Just told by the AD. The other alternative is the AD could have credit issues with Patek. They wouldn't share that info with me obviously

Time to go back and have a talk with your AD.

As I originally said, NOT PP requirement. If so, have him produce documentation.

Sounds like your AD is blowing smoke up your...

I would run from an AD that lies and takes $50k deposits.

KarlS · 9 October 2016, 12:40 AM

He probably needs the cash flow if resorting to that level of extortion!! Ask him for a bank guarantee to cover the cash you are lodging with him as a 1 year (or longer) interest free loan!!

conkers · 9 October 2016, 01:01 AM

I think naming and shaming is called for.

texex91 · 9 October 2016, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

I think naming and shaming is called for.

Qimchi · 9 October 2016, 03:28 AM

I am not too sure about how discreet the date imprint on dial are, but at that price one is paying, it should be perfect or close to perfect.

40
1976-2016

Clearly is not even close at all.

Getting it for the sake of owning a 5711P and convincing oneself that the date imprint can be overlook might not be a wise move to purchase.

Imo, the original 5711P price will not be sway and should continue to rise with or without the release of the 40th. If both original and 40th are offered on the table to me at the same price, I would think most peoples' choices would be quite predictable apart from the few.

The 40th is only second best and behind the original by a long shot.

Russell996 · 9 October 2016, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qimchi

I am not too sure about how discreet the date imprint on dial are, but at that price one is paying, it should be perfect or close to perfect.

40

1976-2016

Clearly is not even close at all.

Getting it for the sake of owning a 5711P and convincing oneself that the date imprint can be overlook might not be a wise move to purchase.

Imo, the original 5711P price will not be sway and should continue to rise with or without the release of the 40th. If both original and 40th are offered on the table to me at the same price, I would think most peoples' choices would be quite predictable apart from the few.

The 40th is only second best and behind the original by a long shot.

No need to overlook the date imprint, I think it looks great. I would need both P's side by side to choose but certainly no current leader in my mind - having not seen either!
With regards to the original 5711P I was never in the mix to get one and currently I think they are trading well ahead of the new list price - am I wrong?

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KarlS · 9 October 2016, 08:11 AM

Collectors begged for a platinum 5711 - got it. They wanted this miraculous electric blue that is so much nicer than the steel- they got it!! People moaned that there were too few original 5711P and now we do a 700 run and we bitch!! Most the people bitching (expressing a personal preference or opinion - my apologies) probably wouldn't get an allocation anyway so it's not a problem for them!! The in metal will imprint modest and we know that we just finding another excuse to bash PP.. most buyers won't care what it looks like...you are entering an exclusive club of 700 with tons of brag rights!!! Not my style and probably wouldn't get an allocation anyway!!

https://instagram.com/p/BLTo-E1A9gL/

Samui · 9 October 2016, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Collectors begged for a platinum 5711 - got it. They wanted this miraculous electric blue that us do much nicer than the steel- they got it!! People moaned that there were too few original 5711P and now we do a 700 run and we bitch!! Most the people bitching (expressing a personal preference or opinion - my apologies) probably wouldn't get an allocation anyway so it's not a problem for them!! The in metal will show is modest we know that we just finding another excuse to bash PP.. most buyers won't care what it looks like...you are entering an exclusive club of 700 with tons of brag rights!!! Not my style and probably wouldn't get an allocation anyway!!

Brag rights? If you are buying watches for brag rights you are something is very wrong. People with real collections dont brag.

texex91 · 9 October 2016, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Collectors begged for a platinum 5711 - got it. They wanted this miraculous electric blue that is so much nicer than the steel- they got it!! People moaned that there were too few original 5711P and now we do a 700 run and we bitch!! Most the people bitching (expressing a personal preference or opinion - my apologies) probably wouldn't get an allocation anyway so it's not a problem for them!! The in metal will imprint modest and we know that we just finding another excuse to bash PP.. most buyers won't care what it looks like...you are entering an exclusive club of 700 with tons of brag rights!!! Not my style and probably wouldn't get an allocation anyway!!

Welcome to the world of watches Karl...people are picky and for $100k 40th should be

And YES people WILL care what it looks like.

I could/did get an allocation and passed. But hate to break the news to you, ANYONE can voice THEIR opinion, allocation or not. Come on.

You tend to see a lot of complaining after Baselworld on both sides, but I've never seen such a backlash like this.

PP didn't hit the mark on this so people will voice their concern. As we should.

PS - I like the size of the 5926 and hope they release more flavors in the future (minus tombstone).

jc-watch · 9 October 2016, 08:36 AM

Love the new 40th releases. Thought the 5976 might be too big, but now that I am seeing some wrist shots, I think it works. It should be interesting to watch the gray market prices over the next few years!

AK797 · 9 October 2016, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

https://instagram.com/p/BLTo-E1A9gL/

Diamond markers look good there and not too blingy but the 40th text is still too conspicuous.

texex91 · 9 October 2016, 10:35 AM

Where is HorologyK (he's been posting in other threads but disappeared here)?

What is going on with AD that lied?

The $50k deposit?

Who is the 'AD'?

ap1 · 9 October 2016, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Diamond markers look good there and not too blingy but the 40th text is still too conspicuous.

I'd pass out if my 12 markers looked that crooked

Oryx · 9 October 2016, 02:49 PM

Some live pics on Patekahoklic's instagram page.

KarlS · 9 October 2016, 07:24 PM

well I guess I will be proven wrong and the secondary market price will plunge and we will be ve able to pick them up at under list very quickly!

I also stand corrected that whilst all our AD may have discussed whether they would like our names forwarded (with their recommendations) to distributors for ultimate submission to Geneva. Promising an allocation at this stage appears to be contradictory to Geneva making the allocation!!

KarlS · 9 October 2016, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samui

Brag rights? If you are buying watches for brag rights you are something is very wrong. People with real collections dont brag.

then why bother with an LE at all and make it a standard production and those that can afford them but them and you manage production like the 5131 to create exclusivity!!

RussW · 9 October 2016, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

Where is HorologyK (he's been posting in other threads but disappeared here)?

What is going on with AD that lied?

The $50k deposit?

Who is the 'AD'?

He didn't seem to know the allocation process when I asked him, but he's happy to give his AD 50k. Something in this story doesn't stack up

kol · 9 October 2016, 08:44 PM

Agree!

goog53 · 9 October 2016, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

Where is HorologyK (he's been posting in other threads but disappeared here)?

What is going on with AD that lied?

The $50k deposit?

Who is the 'AD'?

Previously in this thread he commented that His AD also told him that Patek is holding onto the certs.

Russell996 · 9 October 2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by goog53

Previously in this thread he commented that His AD also told him that Patek is holding onto the certs.

They are doing that for sure on certain pieces.

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texex91 · 9 October 2016, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussW

He didn't seem to know the allocation process when I asked him, but he's happy to give his AD 50k. Something in this story doesn't stack up

Well if an AD blatantly lied to me, I'd take my business elsewhere is my point. Plus the poster said it was 'policy of PP on 10/1' which is strange an AD would go to such lengths to lie. If he's happy so be it.

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Originally Posted by Russell996

They are doing that for sure on certain pieces.

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My AD didn't say anything about cert hold on this...has anyone confirmed?

KarlS · 9 October 2016, 11:40 PM

I think the certificates is a U.K. thing at the moment

9 October 2016, 12:40 AM	#370
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	He probably needs the cash flow if resorting to that level of extortion!! Ask him for a bank guarantee to cover the cash you are lodging with him as a 1 year (or longer) interest free loan!!

9 October 2016, 01:01 AM	#371
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 6,045	I think naming and shaming is called for.

9 October 2016, 03:28 AM	#373
Qimchi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Earth Watch: Everything Posts: 154	I am not too sure about how discreet the date imprint on dial are, but at that price one is paying, it should be perfect or close to perfect. 40 1976-2016 Clearly is not even close at all. Getting it for the sake of owning a 5711P and convincing oneself that the date imprint can be overlook might not be a wise move to purchase. Imo, the original 5711P price will not be sway and should continue to rise with or without the release of the 40th. If both original and 40th are offered on the table to me at the same price, I would think most peoples' choices would be quite predictable apart from the few. The 40th is only second best and behind the original by a long shot.

9 October 2016, 08:11 AM	#375
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	Collectors begged for a platinum 5711 - got it. They wanted this miraculous electric blue that is so much nicer than the steel- they got it!! People moaned that there were too few original 5711P and now we do a 700 run and we bitch!! Most the people bitching (expressing a personal preference or opinion - my apologies) probably wouldn't get an allocation anyway so it's not a problem for them!! The in metal will imprint modest and we know that we just finding another excuse to bash PP.. most buyers won't care what it looks like...you are entering an exclusive club of 700 with tons of brag rights!!! Not my style and probably wouldn't get an allocation anyway!! https://instagram.com/p/BLTo-E1A9gL/

9 October 2016, 08:36 AM	#378
jc-watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA Watch: need moar! Posts: 134	Love the new 40th releases. Thought the 5976 might be too big, but now that I am seeing some wrist shots, I think it works. It should be interesting to watch the gray market prices over the next few years!

9 October 2016, 10:35 AM	#380
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Where is HorologyK (he's been posting in other threads but disappeared here)? What is going on with AD that lied? The $50k deposit? Who is the 'AD'?

9 October 2016, 02:49 PM	#382
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,892	Some live pics on Patekahoklic's instagram page.

9 October 2016, 07:24 PM	#383
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	well I guess I will be proven wrong and the secondary market price will plunge and we will be ve able to pick them up at under list very quickly! I also stand corrected that whilst all our AD may have discussed whether they would like our names forwarded (with their recommendations) to distributors for ultimate submission to Geneva. Promising an allocation at this stage appears to be contradictory to Geneva making the allocation!!

9 October 2016, 08:44 PM	#386
kol "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Estonia Posts: 146	Agree!

9 October 2016, 11:40 PM	#390
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	I think the certificates is a U.K. thing at the moment

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