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Ar_Mi · 10 October 2016, 10:01 PM

the 5711 p 40th looks so good!!!

BlueHeron · 13 October 2016, 11:23 PM

Here's my take on the anniversary engraving. Three words: Ford Super Duty

https://focusedpleasure.com/2016/10/...on-that-inlay/

Russell996 · 14 October 2016, 12:55 AM

All these negative views and no one has even seen one in the flesh! Bizarre! I'm looking forward to seeing what I expect to be an absolutely stunning watch.
Ferrari take on the lettering, works for me.

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goog53 · 14 October 2016, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Well if an AD blatantly lied to me, I'd take my business elsewhere is my point. Plus the poster said it was 'policy of PP on 10/1' which is strange an AD would go to such lengths to lie. If he's happy so be it.

My AD didn't say anything about cert hold on this...has anyone confirmed?

I spoke directly to one of the Sales Managers for Patek US at HSWA when I attended the minute repeater event and brought up this practice of holding the certs in the UK and he told me there is currently no plan in place to do it for the US.

unknown · 14 October 2016, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

All these negative views and no one has even seen one in the flesh! Bizarre! I'm looking forward to seeing what I expect to be an absolutely stunning watch.
Ferrari take on the lettering, works for me.

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to be honest. I really had it with all those negative comments
I you don't like it, stop complaining and look at another watch

Should I laugh at every stupid watch between 36 and 38 mm ?
I have a bigger wrist and wear bigger watches, I could bash EVERY Calatrava

But I don't
I enjoy seeing them but they are just not my style ( not for my wrist)

sarey · 14 October 2016, 02:40 AM

well said..

:c lap:

texex91 · 14 October 2016, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

All these negative views and no one has even seen one in the flesh! Bizarre! I'm looking forward to seeing what I expect to be an absolutely stunning watch.
Ferrari take on the lettering, works for me.

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They stopped doing that LONG ago (2009)--that is a old 430 LOL.

KarlS · 14 October 2016, 04:19 AM

With some luck they won't face to recall the 5711P like 430!!

Russell996 · 14 October 2016, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

They stopped doing that LONG ago (2009)--that is a old 430 LOL.

Your point being?

How about an all time classic or a more recent gem!

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Russell996 · 14 October 2016, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

With some luck they won't face to recall the 5711P like 430!!

I think you mixing up your Ferrari's, 458 Italia was recalled for issues - don't remember an issue with the F430.

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BlueHeron · 14 October 2016, 08:04 AM

Hard to argue with Ferrari and Porsche! I think the font is also an interesting part of the discussion.

yjfang · 14 October 2016, 08:06 AM

Perhaps its the relative proportions. What if PP did the engraving in smaller fonts and at the bottom of the dial? I think people can live with that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell996

All these negative views and no one has even seen one in the flesh! Bizarre! I'm looking forward to seeing what I expect to be an absolutely stunning watch.
Ferrari take on the lettering, works for me.

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texex91 · 14 October 2016, 08:28 AM

So funny trying to make a point on a Patek watch to a car LOL.

If that's how to best way explain this hideous thing Patek has done, that's pretty desperate.

enjoythemusic · 14 October 2016, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

So funny trying to make a point on a Patek watch to a car LOL.
If that's how to best way explain this hideous thing Patek has done, that's pretty desperate.

Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe we need to compare Recent Pateks to Lucas electronics of the 60s/70s.

Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."

* Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim the "sudden, unexpected darkness"

* Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.

* Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

* Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

* The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off. The other three switch settings - Smoke, Smolder and Burn.

* The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.

* "I have had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never had any trou...

* If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either

Qimchi · 14 October 2016, 11:41 AM

One of the problem is not with the date imprint but how the imprint are located on a pure, beautiful and simplicity watch that has already settled and cultivated into the minds of the 5711 lovers. Maybe as I get older, too much changes I cannot take it.

I also think that voicing a POV whether positive or not, concerns or suggesting ideas how the 40th could be improved is perfectly normal and also enlightening. It is a forum after all, where people express their views.

I do look forward to see it in flesh at a grey dealer.

Have a nice day gentlemen.

KarlS · 14 October 2016, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

I think you mixing up your Ferrari's, 458 Italia was recalled for issues - don't remember an issue with the F430.

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Not a car buff at all but here is a thread

http://www.motortrend.com/news/nearl...e-issues-3604/

KarlS · 14 October 2016, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qimchi

One of the problem is not with the date imprint but how the imprint are located on a pure, beautiful and simplicity watch that has already settled and cultivated into the minds of the 5711 lovers. Maybe as I get older, too much changes I cannot take it.

I also think that voicing a POV whether positive or not, concerns or suggesting ideas how the 40th could be improved is perfectly normal and also enlightening. It is a forum after all, where people express their views.

I do look forward to see it in flesh at a grey dealer.

Have a nice day gentlemen.

And many of the experts here believe there will be little demand for the watch so I guess it will be at a deep discount at the grey

Russell996 · 14 October 2016, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

So funny trying to make a point on a Patek watch to a car LOL.

If that's how to best way explain this hideous thing Patek has done, that's pretty desperate.

You are obviously not reading the thread - can't blame you as you clearly don't like the watches. It was one of your fellow haters that used the car example and I have simply sought to demonstrate that de-bossed writing is used on many cars both great and not so.

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Russell996 · 14 October 2016, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Not a car buff at all but here is a thread

http://www.motortrend.com/news/nearl...e-issues-3604/

I stand corrected, that particular issue had passed me by.

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KarlS · 14 October 2016, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

I stand corrected, that particular issue had passed me by.

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It may be an older model but still beautiful and we gave to remember it's the anniversary of a 40 year old watch not the launch of a new watch!

Russell996 · 14 October 2016, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

And many of the experts here believe there will be little demand for the watch so I guess it will be at a deep discount at the grey

It will be interesting to see. I believe it is being factory allocated? Presumably it will need an allocated client to take a bath for the grey market to have it on offer? - or perhaps I am being naive!

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Jetkopite · 14 October 2016, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

It will be interesting to see. I believe it is being factory allocated? Presumably it will need an allocated client to take a bath for the grey market to have it on offer? - or perhaps I am being naive!

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I have to agree this bashing of these 40th pieces is getting boring, if you don't like it say it once pass on your allocation if you are lucky to be in the game for one and move on... If I had the funds and opportunity I would be all over that 5711P... For now I'll enjoy my 5131R

KarlS · 14 October 2016, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetkopite

I have to agree this bashing of these 40th pieces is getting boring, if you don't like it say it once pass on your allocation if you are lucky to be in the game for one and move on... If I had the funds and opportunity I would be all over that 5711P... For now I'll enjoy my 5131R

That Johannesburg air has brought some sanity!

Me thinks too many egos will be bruised when they don't get offered an allocation. Rather play either you are guaranteed an allocation by your AD one and passed (which we know is crap as they only recommend not allocate) or go one about the wrong path, QC issues, I sold my whole PP collection and now only have Rolex and Oris, long service times Yawn Yawn anc then spend all their efforts on the PP thread!

texex91 · 14 October 2016, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

You are obviously not reading the thread - can't blame you as you clearly don't like the watches. It was one of your fellow haters that used the car example and I have simply sought to demonstrate that de-bossed writing is used on many cars both great and not so.

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I've read the thread thank you. I've also owned plenty of PP's and actually have praise for the brand overall.

THIS particular watch, I don't like at all--you are correct.

Good news is I stand in good company on that as most don't either.

SMD · 14 October 2016, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell996

All these negative views and no one has even seen one in the flesh! Bizarre! I'm looking forward to seeing what I expect to be an absolutely stunning watch.
Ferrari take on the lettering, works for me.

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For this to be apples to apples the imprint would have to cover the entire hood.

texex91 · 14 October 2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SMD

For this to be apples to apples the imprint would have to cover the entire hood.

raclaims · 15 October 2016, 02:03 AM

I always kinda liked the imprint on the 430...yet I have a 458...so who knows what I think anymore.

BlueHeron · 15 October 2016, 02:13 AM

As the author of the car analogy, I will say that if we cannot discuss design aesthetics and occasionally depart from straight watch-dial comparisons (using other product design to provoke exploration and discussion of design choices), then we will be reduced to a bunch of cheerleaders with penalties for those who don't fall in line.

I love PP, and I love the Nautilus, but I don't love the engraving and was struggling to understand why it bothers me as much as it does.

I'm glad some on TRF were inspired to look for recessed logos on Ferraris and Porsches -- this makes a discussion board fun, and it is very much on-topic for this thread (reactions to the new editions).

I also think the comment about "apples to apples comparison would have had to cover the entire hood..." is apropos to the exploration of the way the anniversary design hits people (good or bad).

texex91 · 15 October 2016, 03:54 AM

Wow too bad our poll was removed because of an AD panicking because of their honest answer.

Oh well...so seems to go the world today. Cover-up's

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SMD · 15 October 2016, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Wow too bad our poll was removed because of an AD panicking because of their honest answer.

Oh well...so seems to go the world today. Cover-up's LOL.

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14 October 2016, 02:40 AM	#396
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10 October 2016, 10:01 PM	#391
Ar_Mi "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Dubai/Los Angeles Watch: a few Posts: 593	the 5711 p 40th looks so good!!!

13 October 2016, 11:23 PM	#392
BlueHeron "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: New York Posts: 425	Here's my take on the anniversary engraving. Three words: Ford Super Duty https://focusedpleasure.com/2016/10/...on-that-inlay/

14 October 2016, 12:55 AM	#393
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,191	All these negative views and no one has even seen one in the flesh! Bizarre! I'm looking forward to seeing what I expect to be an absolutely stunning watch. Ferrari take on the lettering, works for me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

14 October 2016, 04:19 AM	#398
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	With some luck they won't face to recall the 5711P like 430!!

14 October 2016, 08:04 AM	#401
BlueHeron "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: New York Posts: 425	Hard to argue with Ferrari and Porsche! I think the font is also an interesting part of the discussion.

14 October 2016, 08:28 AM	#403
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	So funny trying to make a point on a Patek watch to a car LOL. If that's how to best way explain this hideous thing Patek has done, that's pretty desperate.

14 October 2016, 11:41 AM	#405
Qimchi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Earth Watch: Everything Posts: 154	One of the problem is not with the date imprint but how the imprint are located on a pure, beautiful and simplicity watch that has already settled and cultivated into the minds of the 5711 lovers. Maybe as I get older, too much changes I cannot take it. I also think that voicing a POV whether positive or not, concerns or suggesting ideas how the 40th could be improved is perfectly normal and also enlightening. It is a forum after all, where people express their views. I do look forward to see it in flesh at a grey dealer. Have a nice day gentlemen.

15 October 2016, 02:03 AM	#417
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,584	I always kinda liked the imprint on the 430...yet I have a 458...so who knows what I think anymore.

15 October 2016, 02:13 AM	#418
BlueHeron "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: New York Posts: 425	As the author of the car analogy, I will say that if we cannot discuss design aesthetics and occasionally depart from straight watch-dial comparisons (using other product design to provoke exploration and discussion of design choices), then we will be reduced to a bunch of cheerleaders with penalties for those who don't fall in line. I love PP, and I love the Nautilus, but I don't love the engraving and was struggling to understand why it bothers me as much as it does. I'm glad some on TRF were inspired to look for recessed logos on Ferraris and Porsches -- this makes a discussion board fun, and it is very much on-topic for this thread (reactions to the new editions). I also think the comment about "apples to apples comparison would have had to cover the entire hood..." is apropos to the exploration of the way the anniversary design hits people (good or bad).

15 October 2016, 03:54 AM	#419
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Wow too bad our poll was removed because of an AD panicking because of their honest answer. Oh well...so seems to go the world today. Cover-up's .

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