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Old 17 March 2022, 04:35 AM   #31
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Cartier Santos is a great Rolex substitute.
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Old 17 March 2022, 04:47 AM   #32
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Seiko and Orient are the brands I recommend to people who don't care about prestige.

There's no need to spend more than $2000 for a watch and many excellent watches can be had for well under $1000.

For those who lean toward the Swiss watches, the Swatch Group and Tudor are good choices.
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Old 17 March 2022, 04:52 AM   #33
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From a brand to brand, probably Omega. Specific to models, depends.

IE - Submariner alternatives could be Omega Seamaster, BlancPain FF, etc..
Daytona - Zenith
Datejust - Santos, Bvligari Octofinissmo, GP Laureato

Tons of great alternatives depending on what you're looking for especially if value retention, resale, etc.. aren't primary drivers for you. Otherwise Rolex has been, and likely will be the King in that regard with some HH lines from AP, Patek, etc..
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Old 17 March 2022, 05:36 AM   #34
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Seiko and Orient are the brands I recommend to people who don't care about prestige.

There's no need to spend more than $2000 for a watch and many excellent watches can be had for well under $1000.

For those who lean toward the Swiss watches, the Swatch Group and Tudor are good choices.
Excellent point. Makes me think of my Seiko samurai. Under $600. Sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, nice lume, dial etc…and actually keeps time within COSC currently. What else do you really need if you forget the luxury/prestige bit of it and just from a utilitarian point.
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Old 17 March 2022, 05:37 AM   #35
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Excellent point. Makes me think of my Seiko samurai. Under $600. Sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, nice lume, dial etc…and actually keeps time within COSC currently. What else do you really need if you forget the luxury/prestige bit of it and just from a utilitarian point.


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Old 17 March 2022, 05:42 AM   #36
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Seiko and Orient are the brands I recommend to people who don't care about prestige.

There's no need to spend more than $2000 for a watch and many excellent watches can be had for well under $1000.

For those who lean toward the Swiss watches, the Swatch Group and Tudor are good choices.
$300 and regulated it myself. Accurate to ~1 second a day. The strap is incredibly comfortable too

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Old 18 March 2022, 05:15 AM   #37
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Grand Seiko or JLC
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Old 18 March 2022, 05:35 AM   #38
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If don't care about the High Reputation of Rolex,what is the best alternative?

Never owned a Rolex. So how would I know? That said, I liked 1990s and early 2000s IWC tool watches when I started out and I still do.
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Old 18 March 2022, 07:06 AM   #39
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Glashutte Original, Roger Dubois, JLC, are three very nice, interesting manufacturers.


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Old 18 March 2022, 08:29 AM   #40
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Which Rolex do you want to buy a stand in for?

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Old 18 March 2022, 11:29 AM   #41
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GO with a typical discount punches way above their price point. I was examining a PanoLunar and a SeaQ PanoDate and both were exquisite and could be had for four digits with minimal haggle.
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Old 18 March 2022, 06:02 PM   #42
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JLC and IWC imho.
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Old 18 March 2022, 10:25 PM   #43
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So many good brands available but if you want a equally rugged steel sport watch its definitely Omega. They have direct competitors for each Rolex model.
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In that case, whatever YOU like.
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If don't care about the Brand and Status-Symbol of Rolex , what brand or specify watch that you think is the best alternative to Rolex as the SAME PRICE RANGE ?
No substitute for Rolex in terms of investment ROI. Remember we are talking about return RATIO here. Rolex is by far the leader of almost all sans certain models of AP and PP.

For status, assuming you are talking about the price point, that I think the answer is limitless. IWC perpetual in any series are running near 40k. IWC constant force torbillon 185k. JLC price ranges as wide. The range of Rolex price is significantly narrower.

For prestige, assuming you are talking about horology, the answer unfortunately may not be what you want to hear.

Also who is the audience of your substitute?

Just buy what you like. Don't mind others otherwise this joyful hobby will become something different very fast.

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Old 20 March 2022, 07:19 PM   #46
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Excellent point. Makes me think of my Seiko samurai. Under $600. Sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, nice lume, dial etc…and actually keeps time within COSC currently. What else do you really need if you forget the luxury/prestige bit of it and just from a utilitarian point.
I say g shock! have quite a few actually. Love them!

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Old 20 March 2022, 07:20 PM   #47
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$300 and regulated it myself. Accurate to ~1 second a day. The strap is incredibly comfortable too

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look at that dial! The numerals are not printed! good pick.

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Old 20 March 2022, 07:28 PM   #48
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Omega, Cartier, Breitling come to mind for me.
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Old 20 March 2022, 09:15 PM   #49
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Zenith. Just ask Rolex.
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Old 21 March 2022, 01:21 AM   #50
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For me:
Sports: Omega Blancpain
All around daily: JLC

Nice thing is that you can pretty much just get these, without any fuss
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look at that dial! The numerals are not printed! good pick.
Major thanks, I love cheap thrills too. It's a HoDink special edition. I really like the look and so got two (to give one away). Turning the bezel is rough and chintzy-feeling as you'd expect. Sounds the same, yet is very solid and there's a charm in that too. Life is not always smooth and delicate either.

Winding feels good, and can't say it enough the strap is verrrrrrrrrry comfy.

Out of box was +40/sec a day and beat was off by 0.2ms. After a few trips on my Timegrapher is now around -1 sec/day and no beat error.

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Old 21 March 2022, 02:26 AM   #52
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Grand Seiko (all of them) and Omega (though really just for the Speedmaster). Cartier for the dress-watches.
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Old 21 March 2022, 04:25 AM   #53
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If don't care about the High Reputation of Rolex,what is the best alternative?

Blancpain FF any day of the week.
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Old 22 March 2022, 03:00 PM   #54
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Major thanks, I love cheap thrills too. It's a HoDink special edition. I really like the look and so got two (to give one away). Turning the bezel is rough and chintzy-feeling as you'd expect. Sounds the same, yet is very solid and there's a charm in that too. Life is not always smooth and delicate either.

Winding feels good, and can't say it enough the strap is verrrrrrrrrry comfy.

Out of box was +40/sec a day and beat was off by 0.2ms. After a few trips on my Timegrapher is now around -1 sec/day and no beat error.

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Old 22 March 2022, 10:19 PM   #55
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I have pretty much given up on acquiring a Rolex for the forseeable future, the AD game in London is pretty much impossible now, and I am not willing to pay grey prices for watches that just don't justify that price for me.

I did actually have a look at a Blancpain 50 fathoms at the weekend and it is a stunning watch, but for the money I was pretty shocked to see the bezel markers were clearly not properly aligned with the minutes on the model I saw.

Want to have a look at the Glashutte Original SeaQ Panorama Date that looks like something I might be very interested in with a bit of haggling, just need to check it isn't too large.
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If your into dive watches look at Doxa they have a lot of history it will get your point across to people that know dive watches
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