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17 August 2019, 01:44 PM | #31 | |
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Movement is GENUINE Everything else fake! This is a serious ROLEX issue that they are working on! Sadly many on these forums are still living in the dark ages!
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17 August 2019, 01:45 PM | #32 | |
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When most average people spend 20 something grand from a company like this , they assume they can just put the watxh on and it’s genuine and good to go. |
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17 August 2019, 01:47 PM | #33 | |
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Its NOT MY issue!! I am here to help stop people getting duped! Stop shooting the messenger They gave you a refund as so they should - PRAISE them for their ultimate honesty A
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17 August 2019, 01:53 PM | #34 | |
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I can’t praise them at all. They got caught red handed selling a fake watch, they really had no other option to refund or they would have been sued. They even tried to talk me out of taking it to Rolex saying it was fine. If they had nothing to worry about I would think the correct response would be to tell the customer to absolutely take it to Rolex to confirm it’s legit. |
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17 August 2019, 01:58 PM | #35 |
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what a nightmare...
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17 August 2019, 02:01 PM | #36 | |
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I am not surprised they were duped! I was duped too, and all the arm chair generals on these forums would get duped. Most check the movement as the final "bastion" of authenticity - sadly NOT any more! Rolex know of this, and I learned, updated my course and now teach how tp check this issue out Thats all I can add
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17 August 2019, 02:06 PM | #37 | |
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The reason I posted was to tell people not to buy from an absolute garbage company like Swisswatchexpo ( which is exactly what they are ). And if you did unfortunately buy from them like me , get your shit checked out. |
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17 August 2019, 02:12 PM | #38 | |
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To all the doubters - fake Rolex exist with genuine movements, I know it, Rolex knows it (and I have that in writing- NO I won’t post it here)’ And many brokers know it now too
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17 August 2019, 02:26 PM | #39 |
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Where are they getting real Daytona movements that this is so prevalent? They have to be either slipping out or Rolex through the back door- Knowing them, unlikely or the Replica manufactures have invested heavily in Rolex movements. Here is DETAILED Vid of real and fake Sub and Dayton movements, not mine but compliments to the maker.
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17 August 2019, 02:33 PM | #40 |
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That T1G serial on the bracelet clasp is a known fake serial
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17 August 2019, 02:33 PM | #41 | |
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BORING. Been posted here many times. Great video, but it’s nothing to do with genuine movements. There are no Asian or replica movements even close to a Genuine Rolex movement that a blind man could not spot. There are no , not even close genuine clone movements in functionality
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17 August 2019, 02:34 PM | #42 |
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Too much money being made on these watches these days. And there seems to be more in circulation than were made. Just like sports memorabilia, assume fake first unless it’s from the source or a very very reputable seller.
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17 August 2019, 02:42 PM | #43 | |
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17 August 2019, 02:48 PM | #44 | |
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I got no idea, to the full extent of these "ZOMBIE" fakes (Rolex's term) - I once claimed a flood of them to be shot down! I have reported about 10 and know of more! They are out there and only ROLEX knows to what extent!
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17 August 2019, 02:55 PM | #45 |
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Im not questioning your expertise or being antagonistic to you, Im questioning my own. Do you not think those movements in that video are too close for comfort or in your experience you can tell them to be miles apart? Genuinely want to know
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17 August 2019, 03:07 PM | #46 |
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I think what I learn from this is after every private purchase take the watch to Rolex, just to have extra piece of mind. The fakes are getting better and better my the week. Crazy...
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17 August 2019, 03:15 PM | #47 |
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Wow this is crazy!
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17 August 2019, 03:30 PM | #48 |
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OP, glad you got your money back.
I wonder how many are running around with fakes and are completely unaware. Thanks for giving everyone a ‘heads up’ on this seller.
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17 August 2019, 03:48 PM | #49 | |
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Nope, they should be better than that. BUT—good on them for refunding. That was certainly their only option. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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17 August 2019, 04:41 PM | #50 |
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17 August 2019, 04:53 PM | #51 | |
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Generally, one would think it would be the other way around. In the automobile world, it makes sense to see “zombies”, where they take a legitimate VIN from a totaled vehicle and then use it in a stolen auto, to pass it off as a repaired one. In that case, there are ample “zombie” wrecked cars and ample cars to be stolen that match that VIN make, model and color. In this case, there would have to be a flow of source of authentic movements. If theoretically they would have to come from Rolex, how could that be from a company that controls parts so well? There could not possibly be “zombie” trashed cases that offer a similar outcome to that of the auto analogy. The only possible explanation, for a scenario where they go to such extent to copy the rest of the watch is that they have managed to copy the movement as well.
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17 August 2019, 06:16 PM | #52 |
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On the basis of what, among others, Adam and Shaun says, is it fair to conclude that AD is the only safe place to buy a Rolex. That reputable greys and TS could only be trusted to not intentionally sell a fake watch?
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17 August 2019, 10:14 PM | #53 |
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Some of the greys do buy new watches from ADs an resell them.
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17 August 2019, 10:41 PM | #54 |
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Entire watch including movement appears to be fake.
OP if you need more info PM me
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17 August 2019, 11:16 PM | #55 |
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17 August 2019, 11:27 PM | #56 |
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Woooow this stuff get terrible scarry that card looks 100 procent genuine aswell as the watch ...
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17 August 2019, 11:39 PM | #57 |
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17 August 2019, 11:47 PM | #58 |
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the problem is that since the Chinese are making the 1: 1 boxes and the 1: 1 movements with the possibility of exchanging all their pieces for genuine ... many pirates are doing it ... from a daytona they take two or three, one with a false box and real movement, another with all real and false movement ... another with a false movement with genuine pieces ... it would be good if many of us here visit the replica forums ... I think we would learn a lot more of the fakes than what all of us can teach them in this forum .... they do it in detail and discuss it among a lot of members with solid knowledge about rolexes and other brands ... for example. panerai .... cartier ... watches that are more difficult than a rolex to identify.
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17 August 2019, 11:52 PM | #59 | |
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Without violating forum rules: There is a website that sells a perfect fake movement for this watch that looks just like this. Nobody assembled all these fake parts and installed a genuine movement. The whole thing is fake. Dang it Adam. You are wrong telling people no one is producing high quality fake movements. These super fakes are in the market. People are spending hard earned money based on your advice. Quit giving bad advice. |
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