Omega Ed White 321

[watchfreak207]

Thanks for all the interesting opinions on the 321.
I will be meeting with the seller next week to deal.
As this is the first time I am getting an Omega, anything I should look out for?

I know the case number, movement number and the warranty card must match.
there is an omega imprint on the centre of the watch.
does omega come with any tags like the rolex?

TIA

[321Forever]

Watches come in a coffin separate from the official box. Coffin has the watch, price stickers, tag, red cards. The watch has plastic film on both crystals, the bracelet, etc. Omega has shifted to paper coffins from plastic. Both have a sticker with the watch model and SN on the side.

Presentation Box is the old standard moonwatch case/box (loupe, medallion, two straps, changing tool, etc.). There is also the big red manual and a small booklet on the 321 movement history.

[watchfreak207]

Originally Posted by 321Forever

Watches come in a coffin separate from the official box. Coffin has the watch, price stickers, tag, red cards. The watch has plastic film on both crystals, the bracelet, etc. Omega has shifted to paper coffins from plastic. Both have a sticker with the watch model and SN on the side.

Presentation Box is the old standard moonwatch case/box (loupe, medallion, two straps, changing tool, etc.). There is also the big red manual and a small booklet on the 321 movement history.

thank you!

[jcdevoe26]

Originally Posted by cornsyrup_bezel

The 321 is not as ergonomic as modern daytona/speedy but completely fulfills my desire for a speedmaster, a vintage watch, and a historically important movement. Ticking all those box's in one package is difficult to do. To have some of the charm of a vintage watch with modern materials is really a big plus to me.

Agreed

[Goose 104]

Originally Posted by 321Forever

Watches come in a coffin separate from the official box. Coffin has the watch, price stickers, tag, red cards. The watch has plastic film on both crystals, the bracelet, etc. Omega has shifted to paper coffins from plastic. Both have a sticker with the watch model and SN on the side.

Presentation Box is the old standard moonwatch case/box (loupe, medallion, two straps, changing tool, etc.). There is also the big red manual and a small booklet on the 321 movement history.

Mine didn't come with the hang tag but the OB might have just forgotten or chosen to keep it

[Goose 104]

Originally Posted by Jon B

I also thought the 321 would be a perfect size, but I found it wears much larger than its 39.7mm diameter, to the extent I have buyers remorse and don’t wear the watch. I have a fairly small wrist at 6.75 inches and find the 321 wears a lot larger than my 16710. If you haven’t tried it on, I’d definitely recommend doing so, as you might be quite surprised how it wears on the wrist.



I’d always discounted the regular Speedmaster, as I thought it would be too large at 42mm, but I’ve just bought the new white-dialled 3861 and I’m really happy with the size. I actually think it seems smaller on the wrist than the 321!

This is spot on actually I also find it wears bigger than the specs (whereas the standard moonwatch wears smaller) but it fits my 7 inch wrist really well.

[Onequik135i]

The AD kept my hang tag from the Silver Snoopy I picked up on St Patty’s day of last year. I so want a 321 next. Whenever I receive a call or text if I do that is. Beautiful watch.

[Travelller]

Originally Posted by watchfreak207

...Would love to hear your thoughts as this is my first Omega purchase...

The 2020 Caliber 321 is a Speedmaster-fan's Speedmaster...

[watchfreak207]

Just collected the omega today. Looks fantastic and great. Came with the transport box and white tag as well. Only thing was the caliber 321 booklet was missing. Seller will go and check. But this watch is a very early batch, so may not have included the 321 booklet?

The watch is definitely bigger than expected at 39.7mm.




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[1William]

Congratulations.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by watchfreak207

Just collected the omega today. Looks fantastic and great. Came with the transport box and white tag as well. Only thing was the caliber 321 booklet was missing. Seller will go and check. But this watch is a very early batch, so may not have included the 321 booklet?


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You could contact your local boutique to see it they have a copy of the 321 brochure that they could send you.

it’s a nice resource to have and completes the full kit

[djtheot]

Congrats I just got one too! Its a wonderful watch.

[watchfreak207]

Originally Posted by brandrea

You could contact your local boutique to see it they have a copy of the 321 brochure that they could send you.

it’s a nice resource to have and completes the full kit

Oh cool. But I am not the original owner and it was from a boutique overseas. I was given the original receipt though. Not sure if the local Omega Boutique will entertain me

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by watchfreak207

Oh cool. But I am not the original owner and it was from a boutique overseas. I was given the original receipt though. Not sure if the local Omega Boutique will entertain me

It’s worth a shot

FWIW, I didn’t receive one with mine either, but since I bought it from our boutique they were most helpful in sending me one.

Seems that it’s one of those things that aren’t necessarily sent out each and every time

You could also check eBay or other online sources.

Congratulations again on the 321, it’s a work of art (on the wrist)


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[worldofoyster]

don't let the words like limited, exclusive fool you, the 321 is true to its origin

[soulsea]

I have what is probably a stupid question in regards to the 321 movement ...

What is that scale engraved between the letters A and R, and is that a moving hand on top of it?

It almost looks like a power reserve indicator but I don't think that's what that is.

Thanks

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Edit. I think I figured it out. I guess it stands for Avance/Retard as a way to set the movement to keep time correctly.

[Travelller]

Originally Posted by soulsea

...What is that scale engraved between the letters A and R, and is that a moving hand on top of it?
...
Edit. I think I figured it out. I guess it stands for Avance/Retard as a way to set the movement to keep time correctly.

Correct. The one-arm "bridge" holding the balance wheel is known as the balance cock, the pointer is the "index" and adjustments will either shorten or lengthen the balance spring, in essence slowing or speeding up the movement.

This system is implemented in most classic mechanical watches.

[soulsea]

Originally Posted by Travelller

Correct. The one-arm "bridge" holding the balance wheel is known as the balance cock, the pointer is the "index" and adjustments will either shorten or lengthen the balance spring, in essence slowing or speeding up the movement.

This system is implemented in most classic mechanical watches.

Thank you for the explanation ... is it common for it to be this visible or is it unique to the 321?

[Travelller]

Originally Posted by soulsea

Thank you for the explanation ... is it common for it to be this visible or is it unique to the 321?

Assuming you mean "visible" AFTER removing a caseback, then yeah, all Speedmasters, 321 / 861 / 863 / 866 / 1861 / 1863 / 1866 which are all based on the iconic Lemania 2310 movement look like that.


Here's my ~2003 3572.50 w/1863 which happens to also have a display caseback:

and my 321EW:


The major change from the 321 to the 861 onwards is the chronograph function's control from the "column wheel" to "cam & lever". A quick study of the two will reveal the column wheel on the 321 and the cam on the 1863.

Furthemore, the 321 uses a "classic" balance wheel with the counter-weights.

[soulsea]

Man I really appreciate all this knowledge, especially because I have an Ed White on the way.

But what I actually meant is it common for it to be visible through a display caseback on other mechanical watches or is it a rare or unique feature to the latest 321 and/or other Omegas?

I just don’t remember seeing it in other brands timepieces but that could be a me thing ... I could look this up myself but I'm hesitant to google 'balance cock display' :)

[watchfreak207]

Just some trivia info, the 321 is based on the Lemania 2310 calibre, which was developed by Albert Piguet, IIRC is the cousin of Edward Piguet of Aduemars Piguet. The 2310 is also used by Patek, VC and Roger Dubius.

Enjoy your Ed White.

[AHG]

As a recent owner of the 321, I can say it's worth every penny. Fortunately, I got it from the AD. However, we should be happy there's not a high premium for it. It wears very differently than a Speedster Professional. It feels so special and unique. I like knowing it's more rare than a Daytona and, even better, that most people don't know what it is.

[soulsea]

Originally Posted by AHG

As a recent owner of the 321, I can say it's worth every penny. Fortunately, I got it from the AD. However, we should be happy there's not a high premium for it. It wears very differently than a Speedster Professional. It feels so special and unique. I like knowing it's more rare than a Daytona and, even better, that most people don't know what it is.

Congrats!!!

I had been on my AD's list for years, he happens to be a good friend but he hasn't gotten a single one since it was released ... apparently most of them going to boutiques and Omega franchise stores.

A few days ago when I found an unworn one from March 24 for $100 more than what would have been msrp + tax, I decided there's no point in waiting any more to get it through an AD and pulled the trigger.

My first watch purchase ever was an Omega Seamaster in the early 90s, a what which I still own. After meandering through several of their timepieces over the last few years, this is likely the last Omega I will ever purchase for I cannot conceive off another model that more perfectly represents the brand.

I just wish there were a way reverse the lugs to wear it upside down on the wrist ... I don't care what time it is, I just want to stare at the movement all day long.

[AHG]

Originally Posted by soulsea

Congrats!!!

I had been on my AD's list for years, he happens to be a good friend but he hasn't gotten a single one since it was released ... apparently most of them going to boutiques and Omega franchise stores.

A few days ago when I found an unworn one from March 24 for $100 more than what would have been msrp + tax, I decided there's no point in waiting any more to get it through an AD and pulled the trigger.

My first watch purchase ever was an Omega Seamaster in the early 90s, a what which I still own. After meandering through several of their timepieces over the last few years, this is likely the last Omega I will ever purchase for I cannot conceive off another model that more perfectly represents the brand.

I just wish there were a way reverse the lugs to wear it upside down on the wrist ... I don't care what time it is, I just want to stare at the movement all day long.

Congrats! I should correct my previous statement. I bought it from a Boutique.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by soulsea

Congrats!!!

I had been on my AD's list for years, he happens to be a good friend but he hasn't gotten a single one since it was released ... apparently most of them going to boutiques and Omega franchise stores.

A few days ago when I found an unworn one from March 24 for $100 more than what would have been msrp + tax, I decided there's no point in waiting any more to get it through an AD and pulled the trigger.

My first watch purchase ever was an Omega Seamaster in the early 90s, a what which I still own. After meandering through several of their timepieces over the last few years, this is likely the last Omega I will ever purchase for I cannot conceive off another model that more perfectly represents the brand.

I just wish there were a way reverse the lugs to wear it upside down on the wrist ... I don't care what time it is, I just want to stare at the movement all day long.

Congratulations and I hope you enjoy it

[fooey]

It comes in the same box as my 1861!!
To me...that's lazy and piss poor!

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[soulsea]

Originally Posted by fooey

It comes in the same box as my 1861!!
To me...that's lazy and piss poor!

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