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Cori · 17 May 2007, 12:51 PM

Shiny, you obviously know a lot about nothing!
Why don't you go and buy a diamond encrusted datejust.
Panerai have been around a long time and they haven't sold out to "bling".
Why don't you just get a life Shiny, you know nothing know all!
You must be some self proclaimed guru who doesn't have a friggin clue

Panerai enthusiasts do have a little bit of knowledge

more than an an idiot like you.

leopardprey · 17 May 2007, 12:57 PM

Cori, you need to chill out. NO need to throw names for someone stating their opinions.

Panerais are a big fad right now in Asia. Too big for most in my opinion. Panerais have actually been availiable to the public for a little over only 10 years. Before that they were primarly made for military divers who needed a large watch as was strapped to the outside of their dive suits or cold weather gear.

Shiny · 17 May 2007, 01:00 PM

Well, it appears that I have struck a nerve. Perhaps you are one of the followers who made a bad investment decision? Personally, I would choose a Rolex Datejust over a Panerai without hesitation. Rolex has a legacy and popularity that is simply unmatched. Go anywhere in the civilized world and inquire with any ten people as to what a Rolex is. Ninety percent, at least, will know it is a fine wristwatch. Make the very same inquiry to the same group as to what a Panerai is and twenty percent, at best, will have any idea of what it is at all.

Cori · 17 May 2007, 01:03 PM

Why did my post get moderated?????? Does the truth hurt too much!!!!

Dream on Shiny you d/head!

Shiny · 17 May 2007, 01:13 PM

I see this is going nowhere, cori. You are an adult, correct? Please, don't allow the simple truth to bring you to such hostilities. Panerai is simply not Rolex, nor are they in the same league, in any way.

Going back to my previous analogy. Present a Rolex Datejust, Day Date, Submariner date, and so on, to ten people who have never heard of Rolex. Next, present a Panerai to those very same people, who have never heard of Panerai either. Ask which timepiece looks to be of great value and which looks like nothing more than a large, bulky watch. I'm sure you'll agree that Rolex would be the unanimous decision as the luxury timepiece of great value.

leopardprey · 17 May 2007, 01:21 PM

Cori, If you can not figure out why your post got moderated, then take another look at it. From your last post and comments, I would think you are pretty close to getting banned.

leopardprey · 17 May 2007, 01:25 PM

Though I think PAMs are overpriced, they do make some really nice models. The Radiomirs with the see though backs are beautiful watches. Some of the older models even had JLC movments. I actually regret passing up on a 42mm Radiomir GMT last month, but it was over $7000 and just alittle too high price. If it would have been $5000, it would be on my wrist right now. I think one thing that does appeal to Pan owners is how easy you can cahnge straps and that leads into a whole nother ball game of collecting which is enjoyable for the owners!

dman · 17 May 2007, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiny

Well, it appears that I have struck a nerve. Perhaps you are one of the followers who made a bad investment decision? Personally, I would choose a Rolex Datejust over a Panerai without hesitation. Rolex has a legacy and popularity that is simply unmatched. Go anywhere in the civilized world and inquire with any ten people as to what a Rolex is. Ninety percent, at least, will know it is a fine wristwatch. Make the very same inquiry to the same group as to what a Panerai is and twenty percent, at best, will have any idea of what it is at all.

Good for you for knowing what you would choose, nothing wrong with that. But to make the ASSumptions that you make about Panerai is way off base. Do you know anything about the brand other than the look?

And FWIW, the reason you describe about the fact that many people know Rolex is another reason why I don't wear them hardly at all anymore.

Your opinion is welcome here, but don't be offended when ignorant statements are refuted. And your statement was very nothing short of ignorant.

Some people need a name brand to compensate for other things though.

dman · 17 May 2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny

\ I believe that followers of this brand will soon wish they had made wiser investments in more established brands. Just my opinion here, ladies and gentleman.

Regards,

Again you get flagged for pure ignorance. The Panerai secondary market holds better than any other brand, the mighty coronet included. The proof is on the sales corners and trust me I spend plenty of time there.

Launch Mini · 17 May 2007, 02:29 PM

Not sure how many people really buy watches for investment purposes anyway.
To many they are luxury items.
Wonder who bought all those plasma TV's when they first came out, at around $20,000 for a 42" set.
It all depends on the person and what they are looking for at that point.
Now, let me get back to my Commodore 64.

dman · 17 May 2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Launch Mini

Not sure how many people really buy watches for investment purposes anyway.
To many they are luxury items.
Wonder who bought all those plasma TV's when they first came out, at around $20,000 for a 42" set.
It all depends on the person and what they are looking for at that point.
Now, let me get back to my Commodore 64.

I agree bro, I actually wish they would go out of style so I could land a 21 or 203 for less than 80% over list.

Launch Mini · 17 May 2007, 02:32 PM

Yeah, those 203's. Sheesh, old parts stuck in a new case. WHat is up with that???

dman · 17 May 2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Launch Mini

Yeah, those 203's. Sheesh, old parts stuck in a new case. WHat is up with that???

No kidding, and listed at $21K and selling for over $100K everytime.

Cori · 17 May 2007, 09:41 PM

Shiny SAid:
I view Panerai as a fad, a large, unsightly, fad, nothing more. They will never stand the test of time as Rolex has.
_______
You think you have a Rolex and know everything, well any knuckle dragger can think they know.... you are so far off track you must be on Hersheys Highway drinking male ale from your own shadoingdoing...cheers Gomer!

Moderators do yourselves a favor let the truth be told about this as# wipe attitude

leopardprey · 17 May 2007, 10:03 PM

2 wrongs don't make a right.

dman · 17 May 2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cori

Shiny SAid:
I view Panerai as a fad, a large, unsightly, fad, nothing more. They will never stand the test of time as Rolex has.
_______
You think you have a Rolex and know everything, well any knuckle dragger can think they know.... you are so far off track you must be on Hersheys Highway drinking male ale from your own shadoingdoing...cheers Gomer!

Moderators do yourselves a favor let the truth be told about this as# wipe attitude

Three words of advice if I may. 1. He is entitled to his own thoughts as long as he is not bashing a person on this forum. 2. Calm down before your tone, before you find yourself at the door. 3. The mods of this site don't need your guidance in running the board. That is why we get the huge paycheck every two weeks.

Shiny · 17 May 2007, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cori

Shiny SAid:
I view Panerai as a fad, a large, unsightly, fad, nothing more. They will never stand the test of time as Rolex has.
_______
You think you have a Rolex and know everything, well any knuckle dragger can think they know.... you are so far off track you must be on Hersheys Highway drinking male ale from your own shadoingdoing...cheers Gomer!

Moderators do yourselves a favor let the truth be told about this as# wipe attitude

As expected, another boorish response. I find myself quite happy in believing that you do not own a Rolex. The prestige associated with such a fine brand would be simply be wasted on the likes of you, sir.

Shiny · 17 May 2007, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Launch Mini

Not sure how many people really buy watches for investment purposes anyway.
To many they are luxury items.
Wonder who bought all those plasma TV's when they first came out, at around $20,000 for a 42" set.
It all depends on the person and what they are looking for at that point.
Now, let me get back to my Commodore 64.

I concur, partially, but I do believe this topic was discussing timepieces, not televisions. No?

padi56 · 18 May 2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiny

As expected, another boorish response. I find myself quite happy in believing that you do not own a Rolex. The prestige associated with such a fine brand would be simply be wasted on the likes of you, sir.

While you are entitled to your opinions afraid to wrongs don't make a right.And as you have not read the moderators post above.I will warn you too, enough is enough keep it friendly and calm down now.

Launch Mini · 18 May 2007, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiny

I concur, partially, but I do believe this topic was discussing timepieces, not televisions. No?

Did I hijack a thread

First time for everything I guess

Sam · 18 May 2007, 11:05 AM

Are they worth it? Yes!

mailman · 18 May 2007, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

Are they worth it? Yes!

How are you diggin yours Sam

Mrdi · 18 May 2007, 12:29 PM

Did JJ hit 30?

Sam · 18 May 2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailman

How are you diggin yours Sam

I'm really liking it.....love it on the Micah Copperplate.

amanda · 18 May 2007, 01:36 PM

hmm from what I've seen most Panerai owners simultaneously own Rolex watches at the same time, they also favour AP and IWC amongst other brands

I think a true WIS has the ability to appreciate all kinds of watches for what they are... in fact the attitude displayed in this thread by a certain person is very narrow minded and elitist.. I'd also say not the attitude expressed by most members of this forum....

If someone reads something they dont like, why cant they just move along and keep their negative comments to themselves

oh look a new one how cute!!!

and this one too!!!

I LOVE PANERAI - YEH BABY

Sam · 18 May 2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda

hmm from what I've seen most Panerai owners simultaneously own Rolex watches at the same time, they also favour AP and IWC amongst other brands

I guess I'm pretty normal for "most Panerai owners" then....got plenty of Rolex and just bought an IWC Aquatimer a couple of weeks ago. Glad to know I'm "normal"....now just explain that to my wife.

Mr. K · 19 May 2007, 12:00 AM

I have heard a lot of Panerai owners end up selling. Anyone here sell theirs and not gone back?

If so why?

Sam · 19 May 2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. K

I have heard a lot of Panerai owners end up selling. Anyone here sell theirs and not gone back?

If so why?

No plans to sell here.

It's a too unique piece in the collection.

djemmtee · 19 May 2007, 11:26 AM

wow what a post, i have owned plenty of rolex and about 4 panerai's. i ind myself sticking with panerai because of the variety. in he rolex line, if you have a sub then you get the gmt...it almost feels like the same watch (ofcourse the gmt II feels smaller). not knocking on rolex, but it would be nice for them to diversify thier lines, making each watch feel different. for example: if you wear a pam 88, then a 104....its a complete different feel even though they are both in luminor cases.

Gaijin · 19 May 2007, 11:50 AM

Panerai is really growing on me. They are beautiful. I'm such a Rolex Geek though I don't know if I could ever own or wear anything other than a Rolex.

17 May 2007, 02:29 PM	#40
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,241	Not sure how many people really buy watches for investment purposes anyway. To many they are luxury items. Wonder who bought all those plasma TV's when they first came out, at around $20,000 for a 42" set. It all depends on the person and what they are looking for at that point. Now, let me get back to my Commodore 64. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

17 May 2007, 02:32 PM	#42
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,241	Yeah, those 203's. Sheesh, old parts stuck in a new case. WHat is up with that??? __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

19 May 2007, 11:26 AM	#59
djemmtee "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Mike Location: Tustin Watch: LV Sub Posts: 1,940	wow what a post, i have owned plenty of rolex and about 4 panerai's. i ind myself sticking with panerai because of the variety. in he rolex line, if you have a sub then you get the gmt...it almost feels like the same watch (ofcourse the gmt II feels smaller). not knocking on rolex, but it would be nice for them to diversify thier lines, making each watch feel different. for example: if you wear a pam 88, then a 104....its a complete different feel even though they are both in luminor cases. __________________ 116610 LN 116713 LN Instagram: rolexfan69

17 May 2007, 12:51 PM	#31
Cori Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: McAllen, TX Posts: 30	Shiny, you obviously know a lot about nothing! Why don't you go and buy a diamond encrusted datejust. Panerai have been around a long time and they haven't sold out to "bling". Why don't you just get a life Shiny, you know nothing know all! You must be some self proclaimed guru who doesn't have a friggin clue Panerai enthusiasts do have a little bit of knowledge more than an an idiot like you.

17 May 2007, 12:57 PM	#32
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Cori, you need to chill out. NO need to throw names for someone stating their opinions. Panerais are a big fad right now in Asia. Too big for most in my opinion. Panerais have actually been availiable to the public for a little over only 10 years. Before that they were primarly made for military divers who needed a large watch as was strapped to the outside of their dive suits or cold weather gear.

17 May 2007, 01:00 PM	#33
Shiny Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 25	Well, it appears that I have struck a nerve. Perhaps you are one of the followers who made a bad investment decision? Personally, I would choose a Rolex Datejust over a Panerai without hesitation. Rolex has a legacy and popularity that is simply unmatched. Go anywhere in the civilized world and inquire with any ten people as to what a Rolex is. Ninety percent, at least, will know it is a fine wristwatch. Make the very same inquiry to the same group as to what a Panerai is and twenty percent, at best, will have any idea of what it is at all.

17 May 2007, 01:03 PM	#34
Cori Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: McAllen, TX Posts: 30	Why did my post get moderated?????? Does the truth hurt too much!!!! Dream on Shiny you d/head!

17 May 2007, 01:13 PM	#35
Shiny Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 25	I see this is going nowhere, cori. You are an adult, correct? Please, don't allow the simple truth to bring you to such hostilities. Panerai is simply not Rolex, nor are they in the same league, in any way. Going back to my previous analogy. Present a Rolex Datejust, Day Date, Submariner date, and so on, to ten people who have never heard of Rolex. Next, present a Panerai to those very same people, who have never heard of Panerai either. Ask which timepiece looks to be of great value and which looks like nothing more than a large, bulky watch. I'm sure you'll agree that Rolex would be the unanimous decision as the luxury timepiece of great value.

17 May 2007, 01:21 PM	#36
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Cori, If you can not figure out why your post got moderated, then take another look at it. From your last post and comments, I would think you are pretty close to getting banned.

17 May 2007, 01:25 PM	#37
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Though I think PAMs are overpriced, they do make some really nice models. The Radiomirs with the see though backs are beautiful watches. Some of the older models even had JLC movments. I actually regret passing up on a 42mm Radiomir GMT last month, but it was over $7000 and just alittle too high price. If it would have been $5000, it would be on my wrist right now. I think one thing that does appeal to Pan owners is how easy you can cahnge straps and that leads into a whole nother ball game of collecting which is enjoyable for the owners!

17 May 2007, 09:41 PM	#44
Cori Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: McAllen, TX Posts: 30	Shiny SAid: I view Panerai as a fad, a large, unsightly, fad, nothing more. They will never stand the test of time as Rolex has. _______ You think you have a Rolex and know everything, well any knuckle dragger can think they know.... you are so far off track you must be on Hersheys Highway drinking male ale from your own shadoingdoing...cheers Gomer! Moderators do yourselves a favor let the truth be told about this as# wipe attitude

17 May 2007, 10:03 PM	#45
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	2 wrongs don't make a right.

18 May 2007, 11:05 AM	#51
Sam Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Watch: Yes...too many!!! Posts: 426	Are they worth it? Yes!

18 May 2007, 12:29 PM	#53
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	Did JJ hit 30?

18 May 2007, 01:36 PM	#55
amanda Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,380	hmm from what I've seen most Panerai owners simultaneously own Rolex watches at the same time, they also favour AP and IWC amongst other brands I think a true WIS has the ability to appreciate all kinds of watches for what they are... in fact the attitude displayed in this thread by a certain person is very narrow minded and elitist.. I'd also say not the attitude expressed by most members of this forum.... If someone reads something they dont like, why cant they just move along and keep their negative comments to themselves oh look a new one how cute!!! and this one too!!! I LOVE PANERAI - YEH BABY

19 May 2007, 12:00 AM	#57
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,035	I have heard a lot of Panerai owners end up selling. Anyone here sell theirs and not gone back? If so why?

19 May 2007, 11:50 AM	#60
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Panerai is really growing on me. They are beautiful. I'm such a Rolex Geek though I don't know if I could ever own or wear anything other than a Rolex.

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