Rolex WILL fit a discontinued dial into a NEW watch

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by smithsj716

So what stops us all from merely purchasing a white dial DJ 41 and immediately sending in to swap out for a Wimbledon?


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Absolutely nothing at all (apart from the fact that the Wimbledon dial is hideous! IMO of course!). In all seriousness, that swap has been allowed for ages as it won’t change the reference number.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by dannyp

I’m asking about the opposite: let’s say I bought an OP blue dial today, then next year a white dial option comes out, will rolled let me swap even though that dial wasn’t yet released when I bought the watch?

I see what your saying.

Not sure on that one, but if the reference number on the new white dial watch & your old blue one are the same, then in theory yes.

You have to remember I'm just a member like you, not an RSC employee so you would need to check with them.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by smithsj716

So what stops us all from merely purchasing a white dial DJ 41 and immediately sending in to swap out for a Wimbledon?


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Nothing - apart from finding a white dial DJ41 in an AD

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

I see what your saying.

Not sure on that one, but if the reference number on the new white dial watch & your old blue one are the same, then in theory yes.

You have to remember I'm just a member like you, not an RSC employee so you would need to check with them.

Well, first I’d need to get the watch. Then Rolex would have to bring out a new dial color. Thennnnnnnn I could ask RSC .

For now, just as much fun to deal in speculation.

[GreatCircle]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Nice

Did you purchase the old dial with the intension of having it fitted at some point?

Something like that, couldn’t decide ;)

Luckily in some countries for some kind of strange reason consumer laws still surpass those absolute ridiculous Rolex policies stealing the stuff you paid for (paid for A LOT!)

[IR201]

Originally Posted by smithsj716

So what stops us all from merely purchasing a white dial DJ 41 and immediately sending in to swap out for a Wimbledon?


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Liking the white dial better


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[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by GreatCircle

Something like that, couldn’t decide ;)

Luckily in some countries for some kind of strange reason consumer laws still surpass those absolute ridiculous Rolex policies stealing the stuff you paid for (paid for A LOT!)

Wow!

Now, if dials were only as easy to swap out as bracelets...

[Benzsiam]

As far as I know, in the past even the same reference number, not all models that Rolex allows to swap the dial. I think Rolex try to limit the number of those timepieces.

Such as:

116508 YG Daytona, I don't think Rolex allows to swap to Green dial.

126719BLRO WG Pepsi, I don't think Rolex allows to swap to Meteorite dial.

It's very interesting to know if we can swap all the dials on the same reference number as you said.

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

I don't understand the difference just because its the meteorite dial..

See the post above mine. I doubt you can easily swap to the more exclusive/harder to get meteorite dial.

My point is, a lot of people would be doing this in the current market. Buy a new Daytona at a grey +10-20k over retail, get Rolex to change the dial, flip it yourself and make 10-15k profit. All of a sudden everyone wants to change their dial.

[rolexdd40yg]

This is very strange that rsc would allow a dial swap to meteorite.
But hey, they allow to swap the dial of the ice blue platinum to baguette

[russ86]

Very interesting

[Swiss Mad!]

Hi all

Just wanted to comment as follows

A lot of reply’s to this thread saying things along the lines of ‘can’t believe you can swap a black dial for a meteorite dial ‘ and ‘what’s stopping you buying a basic Daytona & swapping for a higher value dial & flipping it for a profit’ etc…

The truth is, I don’t know the answer to these questions & that wasn’t the purpose of the original thread.

I merely wanted to share some information I received directly from RSC St.James in London that I could swap the standard chocolate dial in a RG Daytona for the old Arabic dial that was officially discontinued in 2019.

Any other info regarding diamond dials, meteorite dials or swapping dials with other watches of a different reference you would need to speak to your local RSC about.

Thanks


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[Oyster Perp]

I must confess to being intrigued with the 'exchange' situation. You are paying for a new dial and NOT part exchanging your old one, why then does the dealer keep your old one ?? To sell on again as a 'used' dial ??

[rolexdd40yg]

Reading more carefully the email provided by OP you can see a blue dot next to the dials.
So I think only where there is a blue dot next to the dial the swap is allowed.
You can see that there is no blue dot next to the meteorite dial

[GreatCircle]

Originally Posted by rolexdd40yg

Reading more carefully the email provided by OP you can see a blue dot next to the dials.
So I think only where there is a blue dot next to the dial the swap is allowed.
You can see that there is no blue dot next to the meteorite dial

Blue dot means chromalight to separate dial from dials that also have been delivered with superluminova before chromalight era.

[rolexdd40yg]

Originally Posted by GreatCircle

Blue dot means chromalight to separate dial from dials that also have been delivered with superluminova before chromalight era.

Thanks

[Harry-57]

Following on from this, I contacted London Service about a SS Sky Dweller dial swap. They replied promptly with a no.

Same reference numbers but they have model specific policies.

They came back real fast. So if in doubt, it's worth an ask.

[S.Explorer]

Interesting - would be good if they let you keep the old dial just in case you fancy a different look after every service.

[Xerxes77]

Maybe if they have in stock

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by Oyster Perp

I must confess to being intrigued with the 'exchange' situation. You are paying for a new dial and NOT part exchanging your old one, why then does the dealer keep your old one ?? To sell on again as a 'used' dial ??

No, Its not the dealer that keeps the old dial, it’s Rolex themselves as the work will be done through the official Rolex service centre (RSC).

The reason they keep them is to prevent them getting onto the secondary market & potentially being used as replacement parts in dodgy reproduction watches as this may assist in them being passed off as genuine.


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[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by S.Explorer

Interesting - would be good if they let you keep the old dial just in case you fancy a different look after every service.

They keep the original dial to prevent it potentially being used in a fake watch which would then allow it to be passed off as genuine




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[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

Following on from this, I contacted London Service about a SS Sky Dweller dial swap. They replied promptly with a no.

Same reference numbers but they have model specific policies.

They came back real fast. So if in doubt, it's worth an ask.

Maybe it’s a bit more complicated to swap the Sky dweller dial as it may also involve swapping the 24hr GMT ring?


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[DC116710LN]

Interesting. I suspect this might be at the discretion of each RSC but it's good to know it's worth asking. Thanks for sharing!

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by rolexdd40yg

Reading more carefully the email provided by OP you can see a blue dot next to the dials.
So I think only where there is a blue dot next to the dial the swap is allowed.
You can see that there is no blue dot next to the meteorite dial

If you also note there are 2 versions of some of the dials ( mainly on the first row) the chocolate Arabic dial for instance ref:13/116528-29 says ‘invalid purchase’ underneath it.

This is because its no longer manufactured as it has the old super luminous green lume whereas it’s replacement ref:13/116528-290 has a blue dot next to it to indicate it has the new blue chromalight lume




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[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Well thats exactly the situation in this case.

The Arabic chocolate dial was discontinued in 2019 but they would still be quite willing to fit it to a new watch purchased in 2021.

Max, I'm confused.

The email you've attached appears to show the arabic chocolate as both "invalid purchase" and available, albeit with an extra 0 on the reference suffix

What's the story there?

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Max, I'm confused.

The email you've attached appears to show the arabic chocolate as both "invalid purchase" and available, albeit with an extra 0 on the reference suffix

What's the story there?

Didn’t he answer your question in the post directly above your question????

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Didn’t he answer your question in the post directly above your question????

Yes, Max did. If you look at the time of posting you'll see that they were only a few minutes apart. Clearly Max had posted that before I clicked on "submit reply" to ask my question

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

If you also note there are 2 versions of some of the dials ( mainly on the first row) the chocolate Arabic dial for instance ref:13/116528-29 says ‘invalid purchase’ underneath it.

This is because its no longer manufactured as it has the old super luminous green lume whereas it’s replacement ref:13/116528-290 has a blue dot next to it to indicate it has the new blue chromalight lume




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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Hi all

Just wanted to comment as follows

A lot of reply’s to this thread saying things along the lines of ‘can’t believe you can swap a black dial for a meteorite dial ‘ and ‘what’s stopping you buying a basic Daytona & swapping for a higher value dial & flipping it for a profit’ etc…

The truth is, I don’t know the answer to these questions & that wasn’t the purpose of the original thread.

I merely wanted to share some information I received directly from RSC St.James in London that I could swap the standard chocolate dial in a RG Daytona for the old Arabic dial that was officially discontinued in 2019.

Any other info regarding diamond dials, meteorite dials or swapping dials with other watches of a different reference you would need to speak to your local RSC about.

Thanks


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Interesting information to have Max

[KBM]

Thanks for this info, Max, very interesting. Like you, I much prefer the chocolate dial with the black arabics and gold outlines for counters.