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[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by 42itus

Then you’re wasting $7000 in order to get a Rolex. Absolutely not. Cheaper to go grey.


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This ^^^. +1.

[lamnyc]

I don’t trust the dealer. How do you know if he will honor his words after your nomos purchase.

[SeikoBake]

every AD wants you to buy crap before they “let you in”. Just be sure this AD is the right one

[Rags]

These AD's are out of control. Buy from a trusted seller here on the forum.

[SeikoBake]

by the way, how is Rolex supply in India ? Which AD are you buying at ?

[Pantheon]

While normally I don't like supporting grays this AD might just be a tad bit ridiculous unless you do like Nomos and are getting the models that you want


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[Seibei]

Tell them to keep their Nomos.

[mikkolopez]

Eyes on the prize. If it’s Rolex then it’s Rolex.


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[divas1903@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by SeikoBake

by the way, how is Rolex supply in India ? Which AD are you buying at ?

The supply as per the ADs is very poor .
For submariners / GMT - they’re saying 2-3 years in general .

For Daytona - they said a 8-10 year wait or I can get it in 2-3 years if I buy a watch worth 15k USD from them from a list of brands given by them (90%of which I haven’t heard . Though , I am not a very aware of all the brands and all the watches so could be be my ignorance also)

Same for Sky Dweller
- blue dial .

[Pantheon]

Originally Posted by divas1903@gmail.com

The supply as per the ADs is very poor .
For submariners / GMT - they’re saying 2-3 years in general .

For Daytona - they said a 8-10 year wait or I can get it in 2-3 years if I buy a watch worth 15k USD from them from a list of brands given by them (90%of which I haven’t heard . Though , I am not a very aware of all the brands and all the watches so could be be my ignorance also)

Same for Sky Dweller
- blue dial .

India might be suffering just like China then. Huge population and a endless thirst for luxury products

[bentlh]

I wouldn't take the offer if I were you. Why bother spending a substantial sum on watches you don't want?

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[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Tavli3

Absolutely positively the right decision to wait for whatever it is you’re waiting for. The AD obviously can’t sell these watches and is the reason he’s trying to strong arm you into buying 2 of them.

So if he can’t sell them what chances do you have?


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Any AD in the universe can sell one of these.
This AD clearly wants to bundle and not just sell one as a single sale.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by divas1903@gmail.com

The supply as per the ADs is very poor .
For submariners / GMT - they’re saying 2-3 years in general .

For Daytona - they said a 8-10 year wait or I can get it in 2-3 years if I buy a watch worth 15k USD from them from a list of brands given by them (90%of which I haven’t heard . Though , I am not a very aware of all the brands and all the watches so could be be my ignorance also)

Same for Sky Dweller
- blue dial .

No point in asking about these models unless you’re a big spender or VIP.
Better to set your sights on something much more realistic.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by divas1903@gmail.com

Hi , I am new here . And from India .
I spoke to my AD and he’s willing to let me have a hulk by March OR a Batman by May/June provided I buy two Nomos from him having a combined retail price of $7000 USD and he’s willing to give me a discount of 25 % on the Nomos .

Is it a good deal ? Or you think that’s plain arm twisting ?

Raw numbers - based on US pricing

2 x Nomos $7,000
less discount $1,750
Total $5,250

LV Sub from AD $9,350

Total spend $14,600


LV Sub, NIB, from Grey $16,000

Even keeping the 2 Nomos, you are $1,400 dollars better of taking your AD's offer than going grey.

If you can sell the two Nomos for $1,000 each you are $3,400 better off taking your AD's offer.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by 42itus

Then you’re wasting $7000 in order to get a Rolex. Absolutely not. Cheaper to go grey.


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Its actually cheaper to take the AD's deal (as long as they deliver on the LV) See my post above

[Pantheon]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Raw numbers - based on US pricing



2 x Nomos $7,000

less discount $1,750

Total $5,250



LV Sub from AD $9,350



Total spend $14,600





LV Sub, NIB, from Grey $16,000



Even keeping the 2 Nomos, you are $1,400 dollars better of taking your AD's offer than going grey.



If you can sell the two Nomos for $1,000 each you are $3,400 better off taking your AD's offer.

Interesting. Well based on your numbers I would agree that the OP is better off just going with the AD. Not only can he kickstart the relationship he also wont help fuel the grey market which is one of the main reasons why we're in this predicament in the first place.

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[mk2jag]

I would not buy something I don't really want to get something I do.....

[AK797]

Originally Posted by RHIII

Go grey and be done. ADs adopting these strategies are just feeding the beast.

I have absolutely zero tolerance for AD games. And those are some pretty specific delivery dates...they probably already have the watches in stock and they will miraculously appear once you’ve bought the Nomos watches.


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Agree, best not to encourage ADs in this whenever there is another option.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

Any AD in the universe can sell one of these.
This AD clearly wants to bundle and not just sell one as a single sale.

Think he's talking about the Nomos.

[Pantheon]

Originally Posted by AK797

Agree, best not to encourage ADs in this whenever there is another option.

Wait so if the OP can get 3 watches for less than the price of 1 from a grey dealer he should support the grey dealer's scalping practices and spend more money? Am I missing something here?

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[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Pantheon

Wait so if the OP can get 3 watches for less than the price of 1 from a grey dealer he should support the grey dealer's scalping practices and spend more money? Am I missing something here?

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Nope - you're not missing anything

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by Pantheon

Wait so if the OP can get 3 watches for less than the price of 1 from a grey dealer he should support the grey dealer's scalping practices and spend more money? Am I missing something here?

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First off the $$ - comparatively would pretty much be a wash - compared to the grey mkt prices and the discounted Nomos.

Secondly, why on earth would you want 3 watches - 2 of which you actually don’t... (I like Nomos but you buy them, even with a discount and they will sell for even less the next day - very niche pieces)

Lastly, what is the difference between the apparent ‘scalping’ vs. an AD bundling (or extorting) the hype of a given reference to sell lesser desired pieces....

(If you actually WANT the pieces included in a bundle - go for it - but if not - it’s just poor decision making)

My .02


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[Pantheon]

Originally Posted by RHIII

First off the $$ - comparatively would pretty much be a wash - compared to the grey mkt prices and the discounted Nomos.

Secondly, why on earth would you want 3 watches - 2 of which you actually don’t... (I like Nomos but you buy them, even with a discount and they will sell for even less the next day - very niche pieces)

Lastly, what is the difference between the apparent ‘scalping’ vs. an AD bundling (or extorting) the hype of a given reference to sell lesser desired pieces....

(If you actually WANT the pieces included in a bundle - go for it - but if not - it’s just poor decision making)

My .02


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Why wouldn't you want two extra watches for the same money? Or for less money than the matter.

I can give them away as gifts to friends or family if I don't like them. Think of it this way with the AD bundling you pay the dues and end up with 2 Nomos. The grey dealer most likely get a better deal since they buy more often but let's just say he got the same reqs as you to buy the hulk.

With the AD you got 3 watches = $15000

With the grey dealer you have 1 hulk =$16000
Now the grey dealer has the two Nomos that he can sell for even more money. Which might explain the grey prices for Nomos

In my eyes if you go grey you might as well have given him those two Nomos. Also of course now you have purchase history with the dealer. Of course how each AD views your purchase history can vary but at least it puts him closer to another piece than going grey.


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[RHIII]

Originally Posted by Pantheon

Why wouldn't you want two extra watches for the same money? Or for less money than the matter.

I can give them away as gifts to friends or family if I don't like them. Think of it this way with the AD bundling you pay the dues and end up with 2 Nomos. The grey dealer most likely get a better deal since they buy more often but let's just say he got the same reqs as you to buy the hulk.

With the AD you got 3 watches = $15000

With the grey dealer you have 1 hulk =$16000
Now the grey dealer has the two Nomos that he can sell for even more money. Which might explain the grey prices for Nomos

In my eyes if you go grey you might as well have given him those two Nomos. Also of course now you have purchase history with the dealer. Of course how each AD views your purchase history can vary but at least it puts him closer to another piece than going grey.


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Personally, I would simply rather deal with a grey market dealer in a ‘what you see is what you get’ - based on market price scenario (likely with a small discount) - than incorrigible AD ‘strong arming’ techniques - to try to get me to buy something I don’t want. Period.

As I mentioned above - If I WANTED (for whatever reason) the other watches - it might be a different story. If we were grocery shopping, 3 for the price of 1 might be a valid argument - if it were perhaps 3 equal value items.....




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