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My wrist is just too small. A 44mm 372 would just be awesome.
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Panerai makes a great product. But marketing is not as prevalent as Rolex.
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I don’t see the brand going up. It’s about flat right now and unless something changes will remain so. Pam are more of a niche and not as broad market driven as other brands are. Good brand with some great pieces and history.
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Simple answer is: No.
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Nah, it was something to do with Levi's asking him to stop wearing their jeans because he makes them look bad or something
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If your assertion is correct and it was simply a 'Macroeconomic price issue' : 1) every other brand should have had price adjustments due to the overall downturn in the market from 2014-2016, and 2) Panerai's prices should have gone back up following this market correction. Neither of those things happened. And I'm sure sales are up relative to what they were from 2014-2016. So what? The question the OP posed was whether Panerai prices were going up? As a whole, no they aren't. If you have data to the contrary, I'd love to see it. But I saw first hand from 2 AD's how their prices dropped in 2016 and haven't gone back since. Additionally, their prices on the second hand market speaks volumes for the brand's value retention on many of their models, with some exceptions, of course. The only sales report I could find for the Richmont group had sales figures through early 2017, that still showed lagging sales, even relative to 2016, which included Panerai sales. https://www.google.com/search?q=pane...tVEjkC0BLRXWM: |
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Tough to generalize, but even though the big watch trend peaked several years ago, I don't detect that PAM prices have declined. Most of the basic ones are still selling for $4K-$5K.
Any watch that is 47mm, even if its as cool as the 372, will have a limited appeal to people with normal size wrists, so I'm not sure if that model is a good proxy for the value of the brand in general. |
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I bought a 233 on trf 4-5 years ago, If i were to sell it today, i would break-even. I bought a Pepsi the same year also on trf, this particular model has increased about 40%... crazy.
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Some models are unsaleable on the secondary market so they are a hard pass no buy from pre owned dealers. It's been quite a fall....still cool watches though. |
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official price had raised 4% in Hong Kong this Feb.
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#58 |
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Panerai prices are in the toilet. Now it's probably the time to buy the model you must desire.
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I like Panerai as a brand but dislike the way they market and undercut LE models with regular releases a short time later. I was big into the Panerai craze in the early 2000's but moved away as they started playing games. Very similar to what Rolex is doing now and I am down to 3 watches from them, from a high of 7-8. If you want to understand the value of a Panerai watch contact some TS here on TRF and with the exception of 1 or 2, no one will take it unless it is a LE model or you will go 50-60% off retail. Buy to own, I have a 422, and enjoy it.
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