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SDDS · 4 January 2010, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullyterrier

Rolex have definitely had a quality control problem, and the GMT2c seems to have been the worst hit.

totally agree

JJ Irani · 4 January 2010, 05:00 AM

.....and while you're about it, make sure the bezel is not brittle!!

STEELINOX · 4 January 2010, 05:03 AM

Why do the 'lot o ya's' always insist on taking the thing 'back to the AD', he can send it direct to ROLEX and not even have to deal with the 'extra handling' !
2 more pennies of useless info that I bet yud wish'd yud got the time back to look at your own very GMT IIC dial, sheese !

TurboWatch · 4 January 2010, 05:08 AM

because Rolex "hand make" these.

But they are good with replacing it if yours is under warranty. Same thing happened to my wife's Datejust few years back and the RSC had it replaced and returned promptly.

I would send it in right away.

crazycarlitos · 4 January 2010, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by STEELINOX

Why do the 'lot o ya's' always insist on taking the thing 'back to the AD', he can send it direct to ROLEX and not even have to deal with the 'extra handling' !
2 more pennies of useless info that I bet yud wish'd yud got the time back to look at your own very GMT IIC dial, sheese !

*off topic*

what is a yud? i thought it was just a letter in Semitic alphabet..

jvo300 · 4 January 2010, 05:11 AM

I've owned and still own several Rolex and have never seen this. I would not call it normal nor would I find it acceptable. Make a big stink and get it fixed. The squeeky wheel gets oiled as they say.

I disagree with those who post sentiments that suggest Rolex is slacking off / quality and design is going down hill. That's just hyperbole. You can't use isolated instances to make such a big leap. Of course there are going to be some "lemons" in a mass produced product. Expecting otherwise is naive. The question shouldn't be whether Rolex makes some defective products, but rather what do they do to make it right when it happens.

BASSETHOUNDS · 4 January 2010, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Would agree but because of the high numbers produced would doubt if they check every single one.Perhaps they are just randomly checked with naked eye would doubt with any sort of loupe.But like most things in high production
there will be some that are not 100% perfect.This should not happen but today nothing is 100% perfect not even Rolex they sometimes have the odd tiny flaw but Rolex will have it rectified hopefully to full customer satisfaction.

That is something we could except if we want to , however would it be that time consuming to any AD to check the watch thoroughly before he actually lets it leave his shop ? A busy AD will sell how many watches a day ? He is the one directly responsible to his client , wouldn't you think so ?

Beto · 4 January 2010, 05:14 AM

im back in taiwan on vacation at the moment. im not really sure on where i should send it to. so it would be best for me to go to my ad in the next couple of days and try figure somthing out. but a dial replacement would sound good to me. anybody have any idea on how long this process might take?

Safetrends · 4 January 2010, 05:15 AM

I read this whole post and I think I will not buy a GMT2c even if I had the money to put it out and I did some reading on the watch and it is not made at the factory it is made here:

Beto · 4 January 2010, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

.....and while you're about it, make sure the bezel is not brittle!!

Bullyterrier · 4 January 2010, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

That is something we could except if we want to , however would it be that time consuming to any AD to check the watch thoroughly before he actually lets it leave his shop ? A busy AD will sell how many watches a day ? He is the one directly responsible to his client , wouldn't you think so ?

I agree.
When I worked in a camera shop years ago, with every delivery we would open it up and go through to check the stock.

bayerische · 4 January 2010, 05:17 AM

I would give it back.

1000ftSub · 4 January 2010, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SDDS

come on guys there is something wrong here.. i keep seeing alot of problems on the GMT II master what is wrong?? why is that??
till now i saw problems on the gmt II
- the ceramic bezel falling off
- the rolex crown rehaut is not centered perfectly
- the date is not centered perfectly.
- the bracelet falling off..

thats weird

Yea your right, and after paying all that money for the watch nothing should go wrong with it.

Beto · 4 January 2010, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

I read this whole post and I think I will not buy a GMT2c even if I had the money to put it out and I did some reading on the watch and it is not made at the factory it is made here:

well to be honest... i would have to disagree with you.. i still love every bit and piece of my GMT. it is sexy as it is. ofcourse my badluck has bought me this ugly lume, but hopefully rolex will sort something out. other from that. u shouldnt look down on GMTs just because of my bad luck can you @@?

nyyankees · 4 January 2010, 05:21 AM

I had a similar problem with a D serial Sub ND I had. It bothered me but I lived with it until I sold it. I wonder about Rolex quality lately. I just had a friend get me a new bezel insert for my Sub from overseas and it came to me suspended in a shrink wrap inside a pastic container. I'll be damned if the thing didn't have a big scratch on the back of it and I mean paint removed and everything. Now it didn't bother me so much because once installed you don't see the back but why would something like that leave the factory?

Safetrends · 4 January 2010, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Beto

well to be honest... i would have to disagree with you.. i still love every bit and piece of my GMT. it is sexy as it is. ofcourse my badluck has bought me this ugly lume, but hopefully rolex will sort something out. other from that. u shouldnt look down on GMTs just because of my bad luck can you @@?

If I am to buy another watch god forbid it will be a vintage Sub. I like old watches.

Beto · 4 January 2010, 05:24 AM

im happy enough for knowing that im not being over sensitive about this matter, from the looks of it. and will definately do something about it!

crazycarlitos · 4 January 2010, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beto

well to be honest... i would have to disagree with you.. i still love every bit and piece of my GMT. it is sexy as it is. ofcourse my badluck has bought me this ugly lume, but hopefully rolex will sort something out. other from that. u shouldnt look down on GMTs just because of my bad luck can you @@?

its not just u..

i've seen more problems with gmt-iic than any other rolex models since i've been active at this forum for last month and a half (yes, not a long time..but long enough to have read tons of posts)

i was interested in purchasing the new subdate with ceramic bezel when it comes out, but now i am hesitant..

perhaps i might wait a year after the debut, to give Rolex the time to fix all the 'little quality control problems' they seem to be having (sort of like waiting on a new car model)

Safetrends · 4 January 2010, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Beto

im happy enough for knowing that im not being over sensitive about this matter, from the looks of it. and will definately do something about it!

Are you and JJ neighbors??????????????

Beto · 4 January 2010, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Are you and JJ neighbors??????????????

i believe so haha. greetings my fella kiwi JJ!

meloncap78 · 4 January 2010, 05:37 AM

I would definitely take it in to your AD and let them know. I am quite sure there will be some resolution. Good luck.

JJ Irani · 4 January 2010, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Beto

i believe so haha. greetings my fella kiwi JJ!

Hi Toby,

How are you?

Which of the 2 ADs here in Auckland did you get the watch from?

JJ

STEELINOX · 4 January 2010, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beto

im back in taiwan on vacation at the moment. im not really sure on where i should send it to. so it would be best for me to go to my ad in the next couple of days and try figure somthing out. but a dial replacement would sound good to me. anybody have any idea on how long this process might take?

It takes them about the amount of time to READ this ENTIRE thread to replace !

HL65 · 4 January 2010, 05:58 AM

Send it back for sure.

Kevin Barrett · 4 January 2010, 12:42 PM

Isn't anybody going to comment on this anal sort of inspection thing,I mean my god.. "man my watch has a defect in a couple molecules of the lume,how can Rolex let this go ?...."

I saw it with the naked eye,I make my living picking fly s.hii.t out of pepper,my eye's are microscopes, this is unacceptable,send it in..WTF

I am perhaps a little cranky, but this is rediculous,these watches are not
inspected with the same sort of detail as you guy's regularly expect .

To the OP .If this is really bothering you that much ,you need to get out more.

bodybump · 4 January 2010, 12:58 PM

keep it and call it Gmt Error Lume..might cost more in the long run..

STEELINOX · 4 January 2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bodybump

keep it and call it Gmt Error Lume..might cost more in the long run..

no kidding !

Andad · 4 January 2010, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Barrett

Isn't anybody going to comment on this anal sort of inspection thing,I mean my god.. "man my watch has a defect in a couple molecules of the lume,how can Rolex let this go ?...."

I saw it with the naked eye,I make my living picking fly s.hii.t out of pepper,my eye's are microscopes, this is unacceptable,send it in..WTF

I am perhaps a little cranky, but this is rediculous,these watches are not
inspected with the same sort of detail as you guy's regularly expect .

To the OP .If this is really bothering you that much ,you need to get out more.

Singslinger · 4 January 2010, 01:29 PM

I feel that if you pay thousands for a mechanical watch, you've every right to expect near-perfection in its timekeeping and perfection in its external appearance. To me, watch buying is largely an emotional decision based on how the watch looks (whether it "sings'' to me) and and if doesn't look right, then it has to be corrected. Send it back and get a new dial!

Safetrends · 4 January 2010, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beto

i believe so haha. greetings my fella kiwi JJ!

JJ is a bad infulance on all of here at TRF. We break out into crazy episode of frivolity and mischief.

BTW When I hear of a Kiwi I think of this:

4 January 2010, 05:00 AM	#32
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4 January 2010, 05:03 AM	#33
STEELINOX 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,007	Why do the 'lot o ya's' always insist on taking the thing 'back to the AD', he can send it direct to ROLEX and not even have to deal with the 'extra handling' ! 2 more pennies of useless info that I bet yud wish'd yud got the time back to look at your own very GMT IIC dial, sheese ! __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN 274

4 January 2010, 05:08 AM	#34
TurboWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,641	That is unavoidable because Rolex "hand make" these. But they are good with replacing it if yours is under warranty. Same thing happened to my wife's Datejust few years back and the RSC had it replaced and returned promptly. I would send it in right away.

4 January 2010, 05:21 AM	#45
nyyankees "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southeastern PA Watch: 1216610 Posts: 2,131	You gotta wonder I had a similar problem with a D serial Sub ND I had. It bothered me but I lived with it until I sold it. I wonder about Rolex quality lately. I just had a friend get me a new bezel insert for my Sub from overseas and it came to me suspended in a shrink wrap inside a pastic container. I'll be damned if the thing didn't have a big scratch on the back of it and I mean paint removed and everything. Now it didn't bother me so much because once installed you don't see the back but why would something like that leave the factory?

4 January 2010, 12:58 PM	#56
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 DATEJUST41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,225	keep it and call it Gmt Error Lume..might cost more in the long run.. __________________

4 January 2010, 05:11 AM	#36
jvo300 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 1,897	I've owned and still own several Rolex and have never seen this. I would not call it normal nor would I find it acceptable. Make a big stink and get it fixed. The squeeky wheel gets oiled as they say. I disagree with those who post sentiments that suggest Rolex is slacking off / quality and design is going down hill. That's just hyperbole. You can't use isolated instances to make such a big leap. Of course there are going to be some "lemons" in a mass produced product. Expecting otherwise is naive. The question shouldn't be whether Rolex makes some defective products, but rather what do they do to make it right when it happens.

4 January 2010, 05:14 AM	#38
Beto Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Toby Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 50	im back in taiwan on vacation at the moment. im not really sure on where i should send it to. so it would be best for me to go to my ad in the next couple of days and try figure somthing out. but a dial replacement would sound good to me. anybody have any idea on how long this process might take?

4 January 2010, 05:17 AM	#42
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	I would give it back.

4 January 2010, 05:24 AM	#47
Beto Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Toby Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 50	im happy enough for knowing that im not being over sensitive about this matter, from the looks of it. and will definately do something about it!

4 January 2010, 05:37 AM	#51
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	I would definitely take it in to your AD and let them know. I am quite sure there will be some resolution. Good luck.

4 January 2010, 05:58 AM	#54
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,569	Send it back for sure.

4 January 2010, 12:42 PM	#55
Kevin Barrett "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 45	Isn't anybody going to comment on this anal sort of inspection thing,I mean my god.. "man my watch has a defect in a couple molecules of the lume,how can Rolex let this go ?...." I saw it with the naked eye,I make my living picking fly s.hii.t out of pepper,my eye's are microscopes, this is unacceptable,send it in..WTF I am perhaps a little cranky, but this is rediculous,these watches are not inspected with the same sort of detail as you guy's regularly expect . To the OP .If this is really bothering you that much ,you need to get out more.

4 January 2010, 01:29 PM	#59
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	I feel that if you pay thousands for a mechanical watch, you've every right to expect near-perfection in its timekeeping and perfection in its external appearance. To me, watch buying is largely an emotional decision based on how the watch looks (whether it "sings'' to me) and and if doesn't look right, then it has to be corrected. Send it back and get a new dial!

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