ceramic diver discontinued?

[lapince]

Originally Posted by redsubby

So it finally happened huh? I wonder how many black ones were produced.

Me too

Originally Posted by redsubby

Do it Arnaud

Well to do it I would have to flip my beloved 5712, which is for me the best daily watch and fits any occasion, in shorts or with a suit, sure I can get one later and the diver will probably become unobtainable or at a huge premium from retail since it's discontinued, but the idea of being without my 5712 which is the only nice piece I have left is just too much for me, I absolutely adore this watch, don't think there is any other watch that I will love as much as this one, don't know if any of you ever had the feeling of finding YOUR watch, but that's the feeling I have with the 5712, for me it's the watch I need, I would love to have the ceramic diver or a datograph 39mm in addition, but not instead of the 5712, let's hope AP will sooner or later make another ceramic piece and not too big, 42mm max

[benlee]

Originally Posted by arnage

Nyc AP boutique confirmed ceramic divers ( both white and black) are officially no longer in production (discontinued) and limited to existing inventory, or what has already been manufactured thus far.

Reason was not provided. 44mm ceramic chrono will still be made though, it sounds like.

Ny boutique had 2 white ceramic divers and even the new white-faced steel diver in stock.

AP Boutique in Ginza Tokyo confirms the same. So I guess it's official. to existing owners.

[SMD]

[lapince]

Would the owners who have one please stop posting pics on my thread where I am disgusted that they are discontinued keep on posting like this I will know who to contact when I have the funds

[lapince]

Originally Posted by benlee

AP Boutique in Ginza Tokyo confirms the same. So I guess it's official. to existing owners.

Yep Ben, it's over, but they may make an even better one which you will want so bad that you will want me to buy your diver at 30% off



Funny how there had been rumors about this a few months ago, like we say in France "no smoke without fire"...

[benlee]

Originally Posted by lapince

Yep Ben, it's over, but they may make an even better one which you will want so bad that you will want me to buy your diver at 30% off



Funny how there had been rumors about this a few months ago, like we say in France "no smoke without fire"...

Keep dreaming Arnauld You might have to wait years for it If they do come out with a new one

Actually I heard the reason they discontinued the Ceramic Diver is because there is limited capacity to make ceramic cases as ceramic is very hard to machine, especially to finish them to the high standard requires by AP. Accordingly, production is limited. So perhaps they will focus their limited production to the 44mm Ceramic ROOs where the returns are better.

[codecow]

That makes sense Ben, I mean look at the case, it's so nice...

[lapince]

Originally Posted by benlee

Keep dreaming Arnauld You might have to wait years for it If they do come out with a new one

Actually I heard the reason they discontinued the Ceramic Diver is because there is limited capacity to make ceramic cases as ceramic is very hard to machine, especially to finish them to the high standard requires by AP. Accordingly, production is limited. So perhaps they will focus their limited production to the 44mm Ceramic ROOs where the returns are better.

Well if humans didn't dream I think we would still be using horses to travel

I heard also about the difficulty to produce these cases but it's really too bad, I think the retail was about 20K more or less, they could have just raised the prices, anyways I guess the day I have the funds I will be able to find one, like another member told me even the coolest pieces get flipped by owners, so there is hope, I just wish that the money I have didn't need to go into something else, if it wasn't the case I would have already gone to an AP boutique or AD to order one

[lapince]

Well after taking a look at Chrono 24 I found a ceramic ROO which is really cool, ok it's 44mm and not 42mm, but when I see pics of guys with smaller wrists than mine here and they look great on them, and since I was wearing 44mm Pams before I think I can pull it off, so when I have the funds, even if the 42mm diver is impossible to score I think I will have other possibilities that look just as cool, was more on the 42 one because of the smaller size but why not a 44?
Here's a pic, it looks really, really stunning
So one way or another when I have the funds for a ceramic watch there will surely be one available



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[lapince]

Or this ceramic piece is also very cool, of course both are more expensive than the 42mm ceramic diver but not to a point that it would be impossible to buy

I prefer the one I posted just before but this one is nice also

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[lapince]

I just found a ceramic diver for sale in Europe, I wrote the seller, a pro seller, if he would be interested in trading for a Pam 028, a Blancpain L-Evolution alarm GMT and 4K, in the trade it's very good for them as the AP goes for 19K, and the minimum price for these 2 watches seeing in what state they are, LNIB, is 19.5K, and that's really a low price, they would basically make 4,5K, the only thing is that the AP will sell much faster than these 2 pieces, but if they're not in a hurry and prefer to make more cash they might accept it, fingers crossed, "I'll make 'em a deal they can't refuse" (the Godfather)

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by lapince

I just found a ceramic diver for sale in Europe, I wrote the seller, a pro seller, if he would be interested in trading for a Pam 028, a Blancpain L-Evolution alarm GMT and 4K, in the trade it's very good for them as the AP goes for 19K, and the minimum price for these 2 watches seeing in what state they are, LNIB, is 19.5K, and that's really a low price, they would basically make 4,5K, the only thing is that the AP will sell much faster than these 2 pieces, but if they're not in a hurry and prefer to make more cash they might accept it, fingers crossed, "I'll make 'em a deal they can't refuse" (the Godfather)

Good luck Arnaud

[lapince]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Good luck Arnaud

Thanks Tom

[internetbuyer]

don't think is discontinued...
saw on AP facebook page they just posted a video about the finishing of white ceramic

[lapince]

Originally Posted by internetbuyer

don't think is discontinued...
saw on AP facebook page they just posted a video about the finishing of white ceramic

Are you sure it's the 42mm diver? There are 44mm ROO's in white ceramic as far as I know, if it wasn't discontinued why would they take it off their website? This plus the fact that some members asked their AP Ad or boutique if it was discontinued and they said yes it was

[Audemars Piguet]

The video is about how they make a bezel not a case.

[Audemars Piguet]

The discontinue of the ceramics and carbon is just a marketing strategy to sell the 2 new entries. Is nothing related to the process of how difficult they make the cases since there is available for sale now in the Milan boutique at 23700€ and 3 weeks ago was 23200€ so on the new price list they increased the price with 500€. I mean after all you buy a ceramic or carbon watch at a very high price 20000€ - 23700€, I agree that the finishing is amazing, but is not about that the discontinue, I mean I hope you all realize that they make alot of money after selling one piece of ceramic or carbon, I am pretty sure is something else.

[Archangellight]

I dont understand why they discontinued this awesome model? I really like the brush ceramic on the bezel. What is the reason?

[Colin W]

Wasn't the black C Diver only ever meant to
be a limited production run of around 350 pieces. I am sure that was the word from the Ginza Boutique ?


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[sekihk]

Originally Posted by Colin W

Wasn't the black C Diver only ever meant to
be a limited production run of around 350 pieces. I am sure that was the word from the Ginza Boutique ?


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Definitely not 350pcs. I saw a recent one with serial no. 5xx.
I myself had also bought one from the Ginza Boutique with a serial no. of 37x last month.

[conkers]

Bought mine but then sold it😂 however replacement satisfies my ceramic craving.

[arnage]

Originally Posted by sekihk

Definitely not 350pcs. I saw a recent one with serial no. 5xx.
I myself had also bought one from the Ginza Boutique with a serial no. of 37x last month.

This also assumes that the serials were produced incrementally (i.e. - starting from "001" and/or not skipping any #s in-between). I suppose we have no reason to believe they didn't start at "001" and that they incremented one # at a time.. but as with most watch manufacturers, maybe aside from Panerai's numbering system, this process is a bit opaque, or speculative, at best

[jdkrut]

Mine is in the high 5_ _ range and I bought it at the Las Vegas Boutique last week.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by conkers

Bought mine but then sold it😂 however replacement satisfies my ceramic craving.

Roger, that is freaking AMAZING!

[sekihk]

Originally Posted by conkers

Bought mine but then sold it😂 however replacement satisfies my ceramic craving.

The dial looks amazing! Congrats!

[codecow]

Originally Posted by jdkrut

Mine is in the high 5_ _ range and I bought it at the Las Vegas Boutique last week.

I wonder if you bought the one I tried on in March

[orangedial]

Originally Posted by conkers

Bought mine but then sold it😂 however replacement satisfies my ceramic craving.

Congrats, Roger! Thats a fantastic one

[Colin W]

Originally Posted by jdkrut

Mine is in the high 5_ _ range and I bought it at the Las Vegas Boutique last week.

Interesting - seems like it has been a relatively small production run even though not 350 pieces


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[redsubby]

Originally Posted by sekihk

Definitely not 350pcs. I saw a recent one with serial no. 5xx.
I myself had also bought one from the Ginza Boutique with a serial no. of 37x last month.

When I got mine at the boutique I was told the serial number does not mean pieces produced.