2021 Submariner

[IR201]

Originally Posted by Alexexec

Word on the inter webs is that this was the original intention for the yachtmaster, however word is Rolex decided against this and created a new line for this watch and used one of their trademarked names.



The case shape, dimensions, comfort plus the extra bling of the yachtmaster is perfect for me which satisfied the wants and pushed the sub and gmt further down the must have list.



Wouldn’t say the yachtmaster has identity issues at all, the sub will always remain as the superb simple traditional toolish watch that it is, but the yachtmaster goes in the comfort, fancy, refined direction and holds its own well as a lot of people are after just that.

Very fair to be honest I’m struggling to bond with mine so being harsh. Maybe I’ve got the identity issues!


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[dmash]

The only watch I could ever see Rolex making smaller is possibly the EXPii back to 40mm for a more consistent look and the fact that upping it to 42 didn’t really make it a ‘hotter’ piece like they might have anticipated. I’m biased with saying that though as I’d grab a polar expii 40mm with ceramic bezel yesterday.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by dmash

The only watch I could ever see Rolex making smaller is possibly the EXPii back to 40mm for a more consistent look and the fact that upping it to 42 didn’t really make it a ‘hotter’ piece like they might have anticipated. I’m biased with saying that though as I’d grab a polar expii 40mm with ceramic bezel yesterday.

Ooo yes same


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[dmash]

Originally Posted by IR201

Ooo yes same


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I’m honestly kind of surprised they haven’t made some type of white dial ceramic bezel piece other than Daytona after seeing its popularity. Whether it’s explorerIi, sub or gmt, I really can’t believe not a single other model has got it in all these years.

[Alexexec]

Originally Posted by IR201

Very fair to be honest I’m struggling to bond with mine so being harsh. Maybe I’ve got the identity issues!

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Perfectly normal, I thought I was set on the sub but for some reason could not see myself bonding enough with it to buy it. Then started looking into the gmt II as I preferred the look and case better. The yachtmaster 40 was not even in consideration and I must have overlooked it so much so that I didn’t even know it existed, I was fully aware of the big white dial ymII but am not into it all. Then when I started looking into the YM40 and its features I was all set.

Curious, have you got any experience with other Rolexes?

What I’m really curious and excited about now is the possibility of a new sub with the new movement and hopefully a less bulky case.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by Alexexec

Perfectly normal, I thought I was set on the sub but for some reason could not see myself bonding enough with it to buy it. Then started looking into the gmt II as I preferred the look and case better. The yachtmaster 40 was not even in consideration and I must have overlooked it so much so that I didn’t even know it existed, I was fully aware of the big white dial ymII but am not into it all. Then when I started looking into the YM40 and its features I was all set.

Curious, have you got any experience with other Rolexes?

What I’m really curious and excited about now is the possibility of a new sub with the new movement and hopefully a less bulky case.

Yeah, I do agree that the Yachtmaster is fantastic on the wrist, love the proportions. And it is probably the most beautiful piece I own. I do own a bunch of other sports pieces. My fave is the 114060. Don't mind the lugs all that much, feel like the maxi has its place/look. Though if they made the subs a bit slimmer like the recent GMTs I wouldn't mind. Or even if they went back to 5 digit proportions and added a ceramic bezel and upgraded bracelet/clasp that would be great. Some people say the SD4K is just like that but it's a bit thicker and the lugs not quite shaped the same and lug to lug feels a little stumpier to me.

[Frank McKay]

Don’t mess with perfect. Love this iteration of the Sub!


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[Sandpit]

Dimensions won't change imo. The sub is a 40mm watch. If one wants a bigger watch, buy the SD43mm. If one wants a slimmer watch, buy the YM.

Movement I think it's a given thaty will change. I don't think the case will change. It's been like this for 10 years now and the GMT case didn't change (afaik).

One thing I'd love to see is the clasp shortened a touch. It just looks too big

[APPRF]

The clasp is too long for small wrists (even a bit over 7), I’m surprised nobody talks about that. I think they should work on a new mechanism for it, and make it shorter. People talk about how the Sub is very comfortable on the wrist, but actually think the GMT is the one that’s very comfortable on the wrist.

[Number3]

Originally Posted by 2000-NJDEVILS

For 67 years the Submariner has been 40mm - very unlikely that Rolex would change that. If you desire a larger case, may I suggest a 44 mm Sea Dweller - but be prepared for the much heavier case and feel....

I thought the very original Sub was smaller - 37/38mm?

Personally I would love to see a larger Sub. Use the case and bracelet from the SD43 and give it a flat back. You’d have the 5-digit aesthetic in a big modern Sub.

[calh22a]

I don’t think Rolex would make the sub larger. 40mm is a sweet spot for it. For those who want bigger, they can opt for SD43 or even DSSD

[fooey]

Originally Posted by pbubsy

42MM Sub!!!! Would be perfect!

Nooooo

[nigelUK]

Originally Posted by APPRF

The clasp is too long for small wrists (even a bit over 7), I’m surprised nobody talks about that. I think they should work on a new mechanism for it, and make it shorter. People talk about how the Sub is very comfortable on the wrist, but actually think the GMT is the one that’s very comfortable on the wrist.

Yes, I have griped about the size of the clasp also . . it feels too long and rigid. Like a slab of steel restricting your movement. I have a 7.25 wrist

I actually find the 5 digits more comfortable. Although the Glidelock is obviously a clear winner

[lemaitre]

Current design + dimensions of the Submariner are hard to beat, in my opinion the aesthetics of the current watch are perfect, wouldn’t change it.

[georgekart]

With them postponing the watch announcements I don't even think we'll see a new Sub in 2021. There were rumors, and I think they are believable, that Explorer II will get a 50th anniversary update next year. And I don't think if they were going to do a 50th anniversary update they'll postpone it to release a Sub first. And they'll likely not release two new watches at the same time. So unless situation improves and we see a release this year, I think current Sub will stay until 2022.

[Bill_H]

Originally Posted by nigelUK

Yes, I have griped about the size of the clasp also . . it feels too long and rigid. Like a slab of steel restricting your movement. I have a 7.25 wrist

I actually find the 5 digits more comfortable. Although the Glidelock is obviously a clear winner

The GL clasp looks big. But believe it or not, the part that touches your wrist is actually smaller.

See this thread for pics
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...=631381&page=2

[brandrea]

Small subtle nuanced changes are my guess. New movement, slight changes to the lug profile, but that’s about it. My guess anyway ...

[JohnGingerwood]

They better not

[Swiss Mad!]

Imo they made the 50th Anniversary Sea Dweller the way it is to satisfy the demand for a larger Sub.

Be honest, from 5ft, side by side, to the untrained eye, they look identical.

Sub should stay 40mm, if you want bigger, get the SD.

[Boaters]

Originally Posted by watchmework

No one knows for sure what 2021 will bring for Rolex releases....sure, it could include an update to the Sub but it could just as easily not. Point is, buy what you like when you can....there were people waiting for this years Basel to see if there was going to be a new Sub and look what happened, no one knows what will happen. The sea dweller was never 43mm until it was.

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Imo they made the 50th Anniversary Sea Dweller the way it is to satisfy the demand for a larger Sub.

Be honest, from 5ft, side by side, to the untrained eye, they look identical.

Sub should stay 40mm, if you want bigger, get the SD.

Exactly I have 7.75 in wrists and loved my Subc but wanted something a little bigger so got the SD43 and it is perfect for me

[SudiYunus]

Originally Posted by escobar144

I know this is a dumb question. But do you all really think that Rolex is going to make the new submariner smaller? I think we can all agree that a movement update is going to happen to the submariner. But I feel like the chances of a major change to the rolex case size is pretty slim. And this is coming from someone who desperately wants a smaller sub.

Sorry for the rant

40mm, Red Lettering, Red Second Hand, n thinner case

[007_Omega]

They'll trim down the lugs. How much is the question but there is no way they'll keep this maxi-case untouched.

As a far reach, Rolex may increase the size, still with trimmer lugs, but no way they are going to make the watch smaller than 40mm.

Rolex has made 0 indication that they will downsize, except when it comes to trimming down lugs. 40mm is already a pretty conservative size these days and Rolex would be playing with fire by offering smaller watches to the mainstream male.

[Yess]

Rolex needs a bigger Sub 114060* for those of us with man-sized wrists.

*(I said Sub, not a Sea-Dweller or whatever else people think is a substitute for a Sub)

[socalwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by pbubsy

42MM Sub!!!! Would be perfect!

Settle down lol

[peterpl]

They wont make it smaller thats for sure.

Its a higher probability they make it larger than smaller.

[boogiebot]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Imo they made the 50th Anniversary Sea Dweller the way it is to satisfy the demand for a larger Sub.

Be honest, from 5ft, side by side, to the untrained eye, they look identical.

Sub should stay 40mm, if you want bigger, get the SD.

Agreed. This is the exact reason Rolex pushed the SD to 43 mm


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[beshannon]

Originally Posted by escobar144

I know this is a dumb question. But do you all really think that Rolex is going to make the new submariner smaller? I think we can all agree that a movement update is going to happen to the submariner. But I feel like the chances of a major change to the rolex case size is pretty slim. And this is coming from someone who desperately wants a smaller sub.

Sorry for the rant

Why would they? Perhaps you should be looking for a 5 digit piece

And high end luxury jewelry does not have model years like throw away phones or cars.

[alexcindyCJ]

They did not change anything but the movement for Yachtmaster (from 116622 to 126622). In the same context, I expect no change in its size, case, lug, etc. for new Sub but the movement (3235) + rolex crown in 6 o'clock. (Swiss Crown Made)

[thlax]

Originally Posted by alexcindyCJ

They did not change anything but the movement for Yachtmaster (from 116622 to 126622). In the same context, I expect no change in its size, case, lug, etc. for new Sub but the movement (3235) + rolex crown in 6 o'clock. (Swiss Crown Made)

+1

Only thing else would be to throw on DSSD style clasp would be cool. But the Subs current clasp is already perfect too.

[zjd168]

16610+ceramic+new movement will be perfect