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dannyp · 2 June 2021, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LC23

depends if its with a jub or oyster bracelet

Disagree, with the current bracelets (where the Jubilee has the same heftier clasp as the Oyster). The two are about as similar to each other as the GMT's Oyster and Jubilee are.

Ensign · 2 June 2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoOne

No. Like a GMT, what sport is it for?

Well, there is an association with equestrian sports if you follow Rolex ads.

Swimming, too, if you recognize the oyster case’s heritage.

But now that Rolexes are so expensive, fewer folks are willing to risk doing thousands of dollars in damage if you fall and get road rash on your Datejust.

Slimpee · 2 June 2021, 12:15 PM

I think either an OP or smooth DJ on Oyster make fantastic all-around watches. Dressier than a tool watch but dress down well.

So, dress-sport watches?

Robine · 3 June 2021, 03:38 AM

Not from aesthetical reasons but from practical/mechanical point of view: why would you not play "sports" with a DJ fluted bezel jubilee bracelet?

Is a Jubilee bracelet less robust than an Oyster one, Fliplock aside?

dannyp · 3 June 2021, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Robine

Not from aesthetical reasons but from practical/mechanical point of view: why would you not play "sports" with a DJ fluted bezel jubilee bracelet?

Is a Jubilee bracelet less robust than an Oyster one, Fliplock aside?

Fluted bezel = WG and therefore more prone to scratches and dings
Jubilee = it depends on era since previous generation didn’t have as thick a clasp (not sure if that actually matters)

Robine · 3 June 2021, 03:51 AM

There are SS and PG fluted bezels...

dannyp · 3 June 2021, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Robine

There are SS and PG fluted bezels...

Assumed we were talking modern. Haven’t been any DJ with fluted steel bezel in ages as far as I know.

Robine · 3 June 2021, 04:04 AM

Does a Daytona count as "sports watch"? I guess the polished bezels show scratches more prominently than a fluted WG DJ one.

Oxfordian · 3 June 2021, 04:20 AM

It’s a watch, don’t fret about categorising it, just wear it and enjoy it as it is after all a stunning watch.

dannyp · 3 June 2021, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robine

Does a Daytona count as "sports watch"? I guess the polished bezels show scratches more prominently than a fluted WG DJ one.

Perhaps, but that one is more ceramic and either way, won’t gouge put dent as easily.

M.a.x. · 3 June 2021, 11:36 AM

Yes, mine is.

LA_LEC · 3 June 2021, 11:52 AM

No - without the mercedes hour hand they are dress watches regardless of the case, band or bezel.

DuckaDiesel · 3 June 2021, 12:05 PM

Yes it is.
Exp1 and DJ are pretty much the same watch other than an extra crown gasket and fliplock on the clasp.
So if exp1 is a sports watch so is DJ.

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dannyp · 3 June 2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LA_LEC

No - without the mercedes hour hand they are dress watches regardless of the case, band or bezel.

Tell that to the Daytona and the Milgauss.

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Originally Posted by DuckaDiesel

Yes it is.
Exp1 and DJ are pretty much the same watch other than an extra crown gasket and fliplock on the clasp.
So if exp1 is a sports watch so is DJ.

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You mean OP, not DJ, right? Because DJ also has a date and PCL.

Sub Capt. · 3 June 2021, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LA_LEC

No - without the mercedes hour hand they are dress watches regardless of the case, band or bezel.

Agreed. It may look “sportier” with a smooth bezel and oyster bracelet but technically NOT a professional sports model. Just wear it and be happy...

Dufresne · 3 June 2021, 01:51 PM

Yes

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Ronin64 · 3 June 2021, 01:57 PM

jubilee with smooth bezel, the best of both worlds.

Robine · 3 June 2021, 03:21 PM

Why cant you do sports with a DJ?

Nikrnic · 3 June 2021, 03:43 PM

Smooth on Oyster is the sportiest of the DJs although I don't look at mine and think sports watch. More like gada piece with a classy touch to it.

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J-rob · 3 June 2021, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin64

jubilee with smooth bezel, the best of both worlds.

My thoughts exactly.

challer · 3 June 2021, 09:50 PM

All Rolex are "sports" jewelry. Accept it or do not. Some have specific complications which few use. Even GMT is just set to local time for the majority. I am told and have observed that many women don't even set the time.

dannyp · 3 June 2021, 10:13 PM

The definition of "sports watch" has also changed much over the years. The JLC Reverso was intended as a "sports watch" when introduced (to keep polo players from damaging their watches) but I doubt it serves the same function today.

Ravager135 · 3 June 2021, 10:19 PM

All Datejusts and Professional models (of which the Datejust is one) are sports watches. You'll get a thousand different definitions of what constitutes a dress watch (and I don't necessarily agree that it must satisfy all of these criteria), but the typical characteristics of a dress watch are: precious metal case, croc or lizard strap, minimal complications (usually time only), and smaller diameter/case height. The Calatrava is probably the prototypical dress watch though there are many other examples.

That said, I do wear my Datejust and IWC Portugeiser as "dress watches," but I understand they don't meet all the criteria mentioned above.

RKTINC1 · 3 June 2021, 10:20 PM

My 116200 just came back from the spa. It has the silver / steel tux dial. It is so perfect again and the center links are scratch free. Watch just glows in any situation.

Dufresne · 12 June 2021, 10:32 AM

Yes.

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dannyp · 12 June 2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robine

Does a Daytona count as "sports watch"? I guess the polished bezels show scratches more prominently than a fluted WG DJ one.

I think you missed the bigger question: Does auto racing count as a sport?

GMTmatt · 12 June 2021, 12:46 PM

The dealbreaker for not being a sports model is the clasp. Not having the flip lock on the datejust would bother me in certain situations.

ks58 · 13 June 2021, 10:49 AM

I wouldn't consider a DJ a sports model. I consider it a dress watch. The sports models can be used for casual events or dressier, imo.

Alcibiades · 13 June 2021, 10:57 AM

1) Why does it matter

2) The DJ 41, whatever configuration, is the same size or larger than most of the sports models. Dress watches are technically thin watches on leather straps

3) DJ are waterproof to significant depths, have robust metal bracelets, etc. I think a lot of talk about DJ being a dress watch doesn’t apply to the modern watches

4) I wear my DJ swimming, with shorts, with suits, etc. It is an all around watch. But so are almost all Rolex watches.

subtona · 13 June 2021, 11:03 AM

yes.

3 June 2021, 04:20 AM	#39
Oxfordian "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Martin Location: England Watch: 124060 Submariner Posts: 2,871	It’s a watch, don’t fret about categorising it, just wear it and enjoy it as it is after all a stunning watch. __________________ Martin Small Rolex, Omega, Seiko and Oris Collection

3 June 2021, 12:05 PM	#43
DuckaDiesel "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 106	Is the Smooth Bezel Datejust a Sports Watch? Yes it is. Exp1 and DJ are pretty much the same watch other than an extra crown gasket and fliplock on the clasp. So if exp1 is a sports watch so is DJ. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

12 June 2021, 12:46 PM	#57
GMTmatt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Matt Location: USA Watch: 16710 Pepsi Posts: 162	The dealbreaker for not being a sports model is the clasp. Not having the flip lock on the datejust would bother me in certain situations. __________________ Cash is king, cash flow is queen

13 June 2021, 11:03 AM	#60
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,054	yes. __________________

2 June 2021, 12:15 PM	#33
Slimpee 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Midwest, USA Watch: DJ 41; 1803; BB Ch Posts: 1,289	I think either an OP or smooth DJ on Oyster make fantastic all-around watches. Dressier than a tool watch but dress down well. So, dress-sport watches?

3 June 2021, 03:38 AM	#34
Robine Banned Join Date: May 2021 Location: Paris Posts: 271	Not from aesthetical reasons but from practical/mechanical point of view: why would you not play "sports" with a DJ fluted bezel jubilee bracelet? Is a Jubilee bracelet less robust than an Oyster one, Fliplock aside?

3 June 2021, 03:51 AM	#36
Robine Banned Join Date: May 2021 Location: Paris Posts: 271	There are SS and PG fluted bezels...

3 June 2021, 04:04 AM	#38
Robine Banned Join Date: May 2021 Location: Paris Posts: 271	Does a Daytona count as "sports watch"? I guess the polished bezels show scratches more prominently than a fluted WG DJ one.

3 June 2021, 11:36 AM	#41
M.a.x. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 129	Yes, mine is.

3 June 2021, 11:52 AM	#42
LA_LEC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,789	No - without the mercedes hour hand they are dress watches regardless of the case, band or bezel.

3 June 2021, 01:51 PM	#46
Dufresne "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: USA Posts: 92	Yes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 June 2021, 01:57 PM	#47
Ronin64 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Blue Omega SMP Posts: 8	jubilee with smooth bezel, the best of both worlds.

3 June 2021, 03:21 PM	#48
Robine Banned Join Date: May 2021 Location: Paris Posts: 271	Why cant you do sports with a DJ?

3 June 2021, 03:43 PM	#49
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,161	Smooth on Oyster is the sportiest of the DJs although I don't look at mine and think sports watch. More like gada piece with a classy touch to it. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

3 June 2021, 09:50 PM	#51
challer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: DC Posts: 679	All Rolex are "sports" jewelry. Accept it or do not. Some have specific complications which few use. Even GMT is just set to local time for the majority. I am told and have observed that many women don't even set the time.

3 June 2021, 10:13 PM	#52
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	The definition of "sports watch" has also changed much over the years. The JLC Reverso was intended as a "sports watch" when introduced (to keep polo players from damaging their watches) but I doubt it serves the same function today.

3 June 2021, 10:19 PM	#53
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,153	All Datejusts and Professional models (of which the Datejust is one) are sports watches. You'll get a thousand different definitions of what constitutes a dress watch (and I don't necessarily agree that it must satisfy all of these criteria), but the typical characteristics of a dress watch are: precious metal case, croc or lizard strap, minimal complications (usually time only), and smaller diameter/case height. The Calatrava is probably the prototypical dress watch though there are many other examples. That said, I do wear my Datejust and IWC Portugeiser as "dress watches," but I understand they don't meet all the criteria mentioned above.

3 June 2021, 10:20 PM	#54
RKTINC1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 199	My 116200 just came back from the spa. It has the silver / steel tux dial. It is so perfect again and the center links are scratch free. Watch just glows in any situation.

12 June 2021, 10:32 AM	#55
Dufresne "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: USA Posts: 92	Yes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 June 2021, 10:49 AM	#58
ks58 Banned Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: United States Posts: 1,533	I wouldn't consider a DJ a sports model. I consider it a dress watch. The sports models can be used for casual events or dressier, imo.

13 June 2021, 10:57 AM	#59
Alcibiades "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: New York Posts: 148	1) Why does it matter 2) The DJ 41, whatever configuration, is the same size or larger than most of the sports models. Dress watches are technically thin watches on leather straps 3) DJ are waterproof to significant depths, have robust metal bracelets, etc. I think a lot of talk about DJ being a dress watch doesn’t apply to the modern watches 4) I wear my DJ swimming, with shorts, with suits, etc. It is an all around watch. But so are almost all Rolex watches.

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