Day-Date 40 Purchase: Order from AD for retail or pay grey market premium?

[macrowatch]

AD only unless you've only got 8 months left to live.

[Big_Red]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

Looks clean!

Thanks. Well good luck on your journey. I thought never ever would I go gray, especially on such a big ticket item, but again I don’t think my DD was at premium and the sports models I had to trade were.

I’d recommend at least ask the trusted sellers here if they can source one and at what price.

[whiskyrolex]

You shouldn't have to wait long for this watch. There's actually one sitting in the case at one of my local ADs. It has been there for a few weeks.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

Sales tax here is about 10%, so I'd give my AD about a month since sometimes these things show up way sooner than expected, and go gray if I didn't get it by then.

They already told me it will be about 8 months so they definitely won't be getting one within a month. Sales tax here is 7% so it would be just over $46,750 including tax if I order from the AD versus somewhere in the $51-55k range if I go grey now.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by macrowatch

AD only unless you've only got 8 months left to live.

Lol thanks for the feedback!

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by Big_Red

Thanks. Well good luck on your journey. I thought never ever would I go gray, especially on such a big ticket item, but again I don’t think my DD was at premium and the sports models I had to trade were.

I’d recommend at least ask the trusted sellers here if they can source one and at what price.

I'm not opposed to going grey it's just the mark up on them is a lot right now.

[shaunylw]

Ad for certain. Your essentially saving the cost of a submariner.


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[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by whiskyrolex

You shouldn't have to wait long for this watch. There's actually one sitting in the case at one of my local ADs. It has been there for a few weeks.

Are you sure it's a rose gold DD40 w/ chocolate baguette dial? This is a very hot watch at the moment so it would be surprising for one to be sitting at an AD. If it is in fact that watch would you mind messaging me the AD so I can try to buy it?

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

Ad for certain. Your essentially saving the cost of a submariner.


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Valid point thank you for the feedback!

[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

I need some advice and opinions on my upcoming Day-Date 40 purchase.

I've decided on getting the rose gold with the chocolate baguette dial.

My AD said they can order it for me ($43,700 retail price plus tax) and it will take about 8 months to get.

On the grey market from everything I've seen they seem to be going for like $51-55k.

Would you order from the AD and wait or would you pay the premium to get now?

I don't buy watches solely as investments but I'd hate to pay the current grey market price and then the Day-Dates cool off and they start selling at retail or even less.

This makes me think ordering from the AD and waiting is the "safest" bet at least from a financial perspective.

What are your thoughts? What would you do? Thanks in advance!

Unless you have a particular event that warrants a RG DD40 over the next months, I’d wait for the AD.

I bought my DD40 last year, got 17% discount (YG DD40 with baguette dial at $29k) and got a BLRO and Blue SkyD within 2 months at MRSP from the same AD.

Not sure if you’re looking to buy other watches as well, but if you are, then AD is the way to go.


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[whiskyrolex]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

Are you sure it's a rose gold DD40 w/ chocolate baguette dial? This is a very hot watch at the moment so it would be surprising for one to be sitting at an AD. If it is in fact that watch would you mind messaging me the AD so I can try to buy it?

I just checked and got the reference mixed up. It is the rose gold chocolate with roman numerals dial, not the chocolate baguette.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

Unless you have a particular event that warrants a RG DD40 over the next months, I’d wait for the AD.

I bought my DD40 last year, got 17% discount (YG DD40 with baguette dial at $29k) and got a BLRO and Blue SkyD within 2 months at MRSP from the same AD.

Not sure if you’re looking to buy other watches as well, but if you are, then AD is the way to go.


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Thanks for the input I appreciate it. Congrats on your YG DD40 that's a hell of a deal at $29k w/ the baguette dial. Granted it was a year ago but still. Yes I do plan on buying more watches I've got some others already in mind but the RG DD40 has been top of my list for a while now!

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by whiskyrolex

I just checked and got the reference mixed up. It is the rose gold chocolate with roman numerals dial, not the chocolate baguette.

That watch is still very hot right now and highly sought after. Would you mind shooting me a message with which AD has it sitting there?

[zengineer]

If someone said you could rent one for 8 months at $1000/month would that sound like a good deal? It's one thing to pay a premium if ever getting at an AD is unlikely but 8 grand is a hefty price to get it 8 months sooner.

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[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by zengineer

If someone said you could rent one for 8 months at $1000/month would that sound like a good deal? It's one thing to pay a premium if ever getting at an AD is unlikely but 8 grand is a hefty price to get it 8 months sooner.

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Great point thank you for that!

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

I need some advice and opinions on my upcoming Day-Date 40 purchase.

I've decided on getting the rose gold with the chocolate baguette dial.

My AD said they can order it for me ($43,700 retail price plus tax) and it will take about 8 months to get.

On the grey market from everything I've seen they seem to be going for like $51-55k.

Would you order from the AD and wait or would you pay the premium to get now?

I don't buy watches solely as investments but I'd hate to pay the current grey market price and then the Day-Dates cool off and they start selling at retail or even less.

This makes me think ordering from the AD and waiting is the "safest" bet at least from a financial perspective.

What are your thoughts? What would you do? Thanks in advance!

Wait and buy at retail


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[mile2424]

I would also wait and go the AD route. Hopefully it will arrive sooner than they estimate, of course no guarantee's, but I have heard both ways. It will also help with future requests when you are looking for your next piece.

[ltmgeller]

Get from an AD. The only time I would buy PM from a grey is when it is less than an AD’s MSRP. Looks like those days are over.

[Cauhauna]

OP, the final sentence of your question reveals both your motive for asking and the answer: you'll save roughly 8 grand for waiting roughly 8 months. As someone pointed out in the thread, that's nearly a submariner. That's cause for consideration for most.

Others have hinted to shop at different AD's - and that's the best advice in the thread.

Quick story about availability - I had been hunting for a Polar Explorer II since November 2020. I went to 3 different AD's in my local major market, and had been on waitlists since that time. One dealer told me there was no one else on the list, and that I was next in line. After the Explorer II refresh was announced, I communicated with all of them, letting them know that I was, of course, still interested in the refreshed model. No news has come.

In July 2021, my wife and I vacationed and visited a few boutiques in some extreme high traffic areas. In the case was a DJ36 TT that my wife and I had been casually looking for (for her) since November 2020. We looked at it, and bought it. I asked if they had an Exp II Polar to bundle with it, and was told no -- but that they could probably get one for me soon. I figured I'd never hear from them, but they texted 3 weeks later with a brand new piece in hand for me.


Long story long, if you aren't shopping in a major major major market, you are hurting your chances. If you hit one of these super high traffic areas, you might get a much better result. I think big ADs have fun when people come in on vacation - you never know what you'll find.

It's worth adding that every single AD i visited offered to order the DJ36 for my wife - but none would commit to any promises about an explorer ii or do a combo deal. But, as soon as I found an AD with one sitting in the case, they turned one up within 3 weeks.

The moral is find the biggest major dealer in the busiest market you can, and pay them a visit on vacation. I think someone can order your watch, and get it fast. You might even be able to combo a low tier sports model with it.

Good luck, and, I agree - buy from an AD.

[Hollie_Rollie]

AD


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[1William]

Is it about the watch or the money? For me it is usually a blend between both with me leaning toward the watch. With tax added you maybe within 2-4k difference between AD and Trusted Seller. Contact several of our Trusted Sellers and see what they can do price wise and with availability. See if there is one that is pre-owned and complete with warranty and the price of it. Get all of your information from both sides of AD/Grey and see where you stand. Buying Gray is a personal choice and I should know as I do it routinely. The "I will never pay over retail" crowd may have it right but in todays market it is much more difficult. If prices continue to rise and availability continues to diminish you may actually be making a good move to go Grey now and you can save money. Eight months from now your watch may be no where in sight from your AD and the prices could be higher. Good luck and let us know what you decide.

[jltait]

You time is worth more. Pay the premium, go grey. The longer you have it the more you can enjoy it.

[jltait]

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...-roman-dial-6/

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Wait and buy at retail


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Thank you for the feedback!

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by mile2424

I would also wait and go the AD route. Hopefully it will arrive sooner than they estimate, of course no guarantee's, but I have heard both ways. It will also help with future requests when you are looking for your next piece.

Makes sense thanks for your input and congrats on your DD.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by ltmgeller

Get from an AD. The only time I would buy PM from a grey is when it is less than an AD’s MSRP. Looks like those days are over.

Makes sense and I agree the only times I've bought grey before is when it was less than retail.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by Cauhauna

OP, the final sentence of your question reveals both your motive for asking and the answer: you'll save roughly 8 grand for waiting roughly 8 months. As someone pointed out in the thread, that's nearly a submariner. That's cause for consideration for most.

Others have hinted to shop at different AD's - and that's the best advice in the thread.

Quick story about availability - I had been hunting for a Polar Explorer II since November 2020. I went to 3 different AD's in my local major market, and had been on waitlists since that time. One dealer told me there was no one else on the list, and that I was next in line. After the Explorer II refresh was announced, I communicated with all of them, letting them know that I was, of course, still interested in the refreshed model. No news has come.

In July 2021, my wife and I vacationed and visited a few boutiques in some extreme high traffic areas. In the case was a DJ36 TT that my wife and I had been casually looking for (for her) since November 2020. We looked at it, and bought it. I asked if they had an Exp II Polar to bundle with it, and was told no -- but that they could probably get one for me soon. I figured I'd never hear from them, but they texted 3 weeks later with a brand new piece in hand for me.


Long story long, if you aren't shopping in a major major major market, you are hurting your chances. If you hit one of these super high traffic areas, you might get a much better result. I think big ADs have fun when people come in on vacation - you never know what you'll find.

It's worth adding that every single AD i visited offered to order the DJ36 for my wife - but none would commit to any promises about an explorer ii or do a combo deal. But, as soon as I found an AD with one sitting in the case, they turned one up within 3 weeks.

The moral is find the biggest major dealer in the busiest market you can, and pay them a visit on vacation. I think someone can order your watch, and get it fast. You might even be able to combo a low tier sports model with it.

Good luck, and, I agree - buy from an AD.

Great input thank you for sharing. I'm in a major market and surrounded by other major markets and I've called all of the AD's in the area. The rest just wanted to take my information and put me on their "interest" list this was the only one I found that was willing to take a deposit and place an order. They said they could order the chocolate roman and chocolate baguette but are not allowed to order the olive. I also tried 3 different AD's while on vacation in The Bahamas last week and none had any watches. So at this point it seems like my options are to order from this AD and wait, pay the premium to go grey now or sit tight and wait to see if grey prices come down a little and grab it then.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

AD


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Thanks this seems to be quite the unanimous opinion!

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by 1William

Is it about the watch or the money? For me it is usually a blend between both with me leaning toward the watch. With tax added you maybe within 2-4k difference between AD and Trusted Seller. Contact several of our Trusted Sellers and see what they can do price wise and with availability. See if there is one that is pre-owned and complete with warranty and the price of it. Get all of your information from both sides of AD/Grey and see where you stand. Buying Gray is a personal choice and I should know as I do it routinely. The "I will never pay over retail" crowd may have it right but in todays market it is much more difficult. If prices continue to rise and availability continues to diminish you may actually be making a good move to go Grey now and you can save money. Eight months from now your watch may be no where in sight from your AD and the prices could be higher. Good luck and let us know what you decide.

For me it's a combination of the two the same way that it is for you. I've already done all of the research, contacted a number of trusted sellers, etc. The difference is about $5-9k not $2-4k. Retail is around $46-47k including tax and grey is about $51-55k not including tax.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by jltait

You time is worth more. Pay the premium, go grey. The longer you have it the more you can enjoy it.

Thank you for your feedback!