Is Ming starting to oversaturate the market?

[stockae92]

I guess this is for the person who already own multiple <insert your popular big name watches here> and looking for something that "you can't find this on your wrist" situation.

I think they will find 20 buyers. this is not for the every one.

[buddenfan]

Originally Posted by thesingularity7

Unfortunately with the market cooling off this model tends to make even less sense to the end customer. But this model of business is not specific to MING and seems to be adopted across the industry, specially among independents. I know Czapek has pre-orders going to 2025, for example. While I too dislike parting with my money for long periods of time in a turbulent economy, I still take comfort in the fact that I will get a watch eventually, and I don't have to play games of any sort to get myself an allocation.

On a positive note, I think MING understands this as well because they've drastically cut down their lead times for their more 'affordable' releases like the 37.07 Monolith and the 37.08 Sand, which are scheduled to be delivered a month or two after launch.

But did they deliver on their moonphase watch that went on sale in august?

[thesingularity7]

Originally Posted by buddenfan

But did they deliver on their moonphase watch that went on sale in august?

I don't know if they've delivered all of them, but I personally know a few people that got theirs already.

[ap1]

Sand is sold out now - not bad

[Bmats]

I got my 37.07 Monolith this week, so they were right on target (at least for me) on their shipping.

Has anyone actually gotten off the waitlist for their models. I like the GMT Gilt, which says you still can put your name down for on the waitlist.

Anyway, obligatory shot of the new watch.




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[thesingularity7]

Originally Posted by Bmats

I got my 37.07 Monolith this week, so they were right on target (at least for me) on their shipping.

Has anyone actually gotten off the waitlist for their models. I like the GMT Gilt, which says you still can put your name down for on the waitlist.

Anyway, obligatory shot of the new watch.




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Congratulations on the Monolith!

I managed to get myself a watch from the waitlist (20.11 Mosaic), and I know a few others that were able to get the 37.05 Moonphase and the GMTs from the waitlist too. So I would say go ahead and give it a try. It also helps to follow up with an email letting them know that you're genuinely interested in the piece.

[Steele]

They did a great job on the Sands watch but they are a one trick pony that needs to breakout more like with the Sands watch

[dmottley]

I was contacted for a 37.07 off of the waitlist last month and received it in about 3 weeks.

[Mk2rick]

Originally Posted by Bmats

I got my 37.07 Monolith this week, so they were right on target (at least for me) on their shipping.

Has anyone actually gotten off the waitlist for their models. I like the GMT Gilt, which says you still can put your name down for on the waitlist.

Anyway, obligatory shot of the new watch.




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Damn that black case looks sexy! Does the lume light up compared to other Ming models? I remember there was a fine print on the Ming website that mentioned that luminosity of this piece will not be as bright as other Ming pieces. Which turned me off getting one.

*Note that being dark grey, luminosity of the mosaic pattern on the Monolith is a little lower than the 37.07 Mosaic.

[Bmats]

Originally Posted by Mk2rick

Damn that black case looks sexy! Does the lume light up compared to other Ming models? I remember there was a fine print on the Ming website that mentioned that luminosity of this piece will not be as bright as other Ming pieces. Which turned me off getting one.

*Note that being dark grey, luminosity of the mosaic pattern on the Monolith is a little lower than the 37.07 Mosaic.

Yeah, that's the bummer about it. The center mosaic pattern is much less bright and doesn't show up all that well when you do a UV light test on it.

[Bmats]

Although with a UV light and phone picture it looks pretty good. Perhaps better than real life though. But not as dim as I thought.


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[~JJ]

Damn that lume shot is awesome

[thesingularity7]

Since this thread is starting to become somewhat of an unofficial MING thread, here are some pics of my 37.05 Series 2:



And some macros of the dial:

[Mk2rick]

Originally Posted by Bmats

Although with a UV light and phone picture it looks pretty good. Perhaps better than real life though. But not as dim as I thought.


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Jeez thats a sick lume shot.

They need to fix their luminova mixture to get their watches to glow naturally without the need to use UV light to bring out the beauty of their lume dials. I have a ming watch but it doesnt glow as brightly as my GMT II whenever i transit from being in the sun to the shade.

[chet1022]

I own two Mings. I don't think it oversaturated. It is what happens when Ming's production ramp-up meets with the market trend. For me their business model and aesthetics are in line with their value proposition from the very first day. And some of their models are indeed unique.

[thesingularity7]

Originally Posted by Mk2rick

Jeez thats a sick lume shot.

They need to fix their luminova mixture to get their watches to glow naturally without the need to use UV light to bring out the beauty of their lume dials. I have a ming watch but it doesnt glow as brightly as my GMT II whenever i transit from being in the sun to the shade.

Unfortunately not all MINGs are lumed the same. My Ming 18.01 and Ming 20.11 are my most potent, and perhaps the best lumed watches in my collection which includes a few Rolexes too. But the 22 series and 37 series unfortunately don't have the same level of intensity or longevity where lume is concerned.

[RodBNYC]

I wholeheartedly disagree about Carlotta. She has been super helpful and responsive in resolving an issue I had. I was at the NYC event, and thought she was the best of the bunch there.

[Topspin14m]

Originally Posted by RodBNYC

I wholeheartedly disagree about Carlotta. She has been super helpful and responsive in resolving an issue I had. I was at the NYC event, and thought she was the best of the bunch there.

Good to hear! Separately, it is interesting that the 20 gold pieces that kicked off this thread in November haven’t sold out yet. High price point for sure, but a cool watch.


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[ChetBaker]

Anything sells in any market at the right price.

[buddenfan]

Originally Posted by thesingularity7

Since this thread is starting to become somewhat of an unofficial MING thread, here are some pics of my 37.05 Series 2:



And some macros of the dial:

Wowsers! Love it. How is it in real life? I noticed Ming watches look 100x better in real life even when the watches are stunning in photos

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

I feel an independent needs to offer exceptional value at the price point to justify the risk associated with them.

For me, this isn't really exceptional on the movement end, design or anything else.

Let alone at that price.

Easy pass.

Is the risk future loss of value or the closure of the company with related long term service issues?

[johnsonlong]

Ming was fun when they first came out thanks to their limited supply and unique aesthetics. Like other brands, they want to make money so tons of releases each year have made them less desirable. Also, from a technical aspect, people realize that Ming charges a premium on the standard movements they use