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24 June 2023, 05:37 AM | #61 |
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There's a lot of room for plausible deniability here. For instance, the AD can claim the sales associate acted in bad faith, and that they never forced the buyer to commit to spending anything, and there was never a promise of getting the PP he wanted...
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24 June 2023, 08:53 AM | #62 |
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Maybe, but it appears so many people have had these experiences with them, with different SAs, over a long period of time. If they were to start calling the clients in their Patek lists, I would imagine they would confirm this.
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24 June 2023, 09:10 AM | #63 |
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I have been their customer for many many years and they never played these games with me. I just bought what I wanted over a long period of time and made sure to do all my purchases in their brands through their stores.
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24 June 2023, 09:32 AM | #64 | |
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And that's why I think they will want to settle. It could get embarrassing if it gets public :) |
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24 June 2023, 12:16 PM | #65 |
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My guess is that it’s a departed rogue SA, and management will deny any knowledge of his/her empty promises.
Then again, in defense of the SA, the client may be completely embellishing and fabricating so called “promises” made to him. Many clients are complete entitled prima donnas, looked upon by the SA as a**holes.
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24 June 2023, 12:30 PM | #66 |
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^ no, Shreve clearly told me that if I buy $500k in diamonds, it will OPEN DOORS....
so did CH Premier so did many other AD |
24 June 2023, 01:00 PM | #67 |
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Lots written on this in the Patek section
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24 June 2023, 04:22 PM | #68 |
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24 June 2023, 05:34 PM | #69 |
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Discovery will be very interesting if it gets that far.
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24 June 2023, 07:06 PM | #70 |
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anyone has update on what is happening. I am for one glad, AD is being called out immoral and unethical practice.
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27 June 2023, 04:40 AM | #72 |
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This will settle. This has all the hallmarks of a suit that will not go to trial.
Plaintiff will look like an idiot if he goes through with it. AD will have to open up their books and records and emails and texts, and we all know nothing good comes out of that. No one wants any of that. AD will agree to pay customer some undisclosed amount in exchange for a return of the jewelry that he said he didn't really want. Case closed and outcome subject to strict confidentiality. |
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That isn’t how it works in civil proceedings. Discovery is limited by the Judge if it even gets that far. The plaintiff’s counsel will need to provide an answer and/or evidence to the inevitable defendant’s motion to dismiss. Or even a demurrer that there is no legal basis for the claim to proceed. The defendant doesn’t need to disclose any records or evidence other than the precedents to make an argument that the plaintiff failed to state a claim for which relief can be granted. I don’t see the plaintiff getting anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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17 November 2023, 11:27 PM | #77 |
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I know even crazier stories that those two
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18 November 2023, 06:14 PM | #80 |
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Bizarre everyone is attacking the guy for building a purchase history at the AD, when everyone in the AP thread is out there yapping that one should “appreciate CODES” and the right to buy an AP is a such a lucky favor etc.
Not sure what the guy did wrong. Also the idea of “rogue” SAs is hilarious, because usually the SAs pickup that behavior at the job. It’s not like the owners / managers of these jewelers are totally clueless as to what’s going on. I have to assume at most big places they are clearly aware and profiting off it quietly. |
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This is a settlement right out of the gate. They will stretch it out as much as possible but in the end, no discovery, depositions, etc. This will never see trail and it is not in the AD's or manufacturers interest to have certain information in the public domain.
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19 November 2023, 06:27 AM | #82 |
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Just reinforces to me why I go grey.. pay to play premium but pretty much everything else simpler & easier and very well defined.. only thing I definitely miss out on are the sponsored factory tours if I could have ever been so lucky to receive an invite!
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A case dismissed with prejudice is over and done with, once and for all, and can't be brought back to court.
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26 November 2023, 09:04 AM | #87 |
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26 November 2023, 11:04 AM | #88 |
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My guess is settled. Would have at least seen a demurrer or MSJ otherwise.
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26 November 2023, 11:58 AM | #89 |
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Not sure if I'm reading it correctly, but it looks like the request for dismissal came from the plaintiff side and with prejudice (cannot be re-filed ever again).
It's curious the plaintiff side filed it instead of the defense so it's likely both sides reached an agreement and part of the settlement terms was to ensure the plaintiff can't ever file the same suit against Shreve & Co. ever again. Any attorneys here, please correct my limited understanding. |
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