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CoopJr · 19 December 2009, 12:33 PM

Basically your Rolex will be half fake with the "After market" band...the choice is yours.

BarkMaster · 19 December 2009, 12:34 PM

To settle the argument of "is aftermarket the same as fake?", take a look here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LADIES-18K-SS-JU...item439c1390fc

That is an aftermarket bracelet. If it was fake, eBay could/would remove it.

Think it's a fake? Try to get eBay to remove it.

CoopJr · 19 December 2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 777

To settle the argument of "is aftermarket the same as fake?", take a look here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LADIES-18K-SS-JU...item439c1390fc

That is an aftermarket bracelet. If it was fake, eBay could/would remove it.

Think it's a fake? Try to get eBay to remove it.

That's different...the auction isn't claiming it to be authentic, just a band for a Rolex.

It's semantics I guess....what percentage constitutes authentic. A non Rolex band makes the watch less than 100% authentic....whether or not one considers that fakery is up to the owner I guess.

BarkMaster · 19 December 2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CoopJr

That's different...the auction isn't claiming it to be authentic, just a band for a Rolex.

It's semantics I guess....what percentage constitutes authentic. A non Rolex band makes the watch less than 100% authentic....whether or not one considers that fakery is up to the owner I guess.

No, not semantics at all, but instead the definition of the word "aftermarket" vs. the words "fake" / "counterfeit". They aren't the same at all and calling an aftermarket part a fake is simply incorrect.

I totally agree that none are genuine Rolex or authentic Rolex and they absolutely lessen the re-sale value of the watch as a whole.

JBat · 19 December 2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 777

No, not semantics at all, but instead the definition of the word "aftermarket" vs. the words "fake" / "counterfeit". They aren't the same at all and calling an aftermarket part a fake is simply incorrect.

I totally agree that none are genuine Rolex or authentic Rolex and they absolutely lessen the re-sale value of the watch as a whole.

Spot-on.

CoopJr · 19 December 2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 777

No, not semantics at all, but instead the definition of the word "aftermarket" vs. the words "fake" / "counterfeit". They aren't the same at all and calling an aftermarket part a fake is simply incorrect.

I totally agree that none are genuine Rolex or authentic Rolex and they absolutely lessen the re-sale value of the watch as a whole.

OK...I do see your point on that.

Speed · 19 December 2009, 01:34 PM

I say stay Real...I do have a shark strap on my Speedy Pro...but would not get a replica bracelet. Just my 2 cents.

Jason71 · 19 December 2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blendhpi

You buy Rolex watches because they are very accurate??? Yes but if you want very accurate a gum ball machine watch keeps better time as it is a quartz.

I will let other comment about what you say is crap? You mean the form? or what?

I travel and dive in areas where buying batteries for a quartz watch is not a feasible thing. I do not dive with a computer, because I do not need one for the type of diving that I do. However, I do need an accurate and especially a RELIABLE automatic watch. In fact, I travel with 2 auto watches (at least) when going on a diving trip. I have been in a country that was not as industrialized as the United States, and have had a computer crap-out on me. It was that event that had me strengthen my resolve to not rely on a computer, but to rely on a good bottom timer, and my brain performing a few simple computations.

As far as the "crap"...........who cares if some people decide that the don't wish to spend $800 on a "Rolex" bracelet but decide to spend $100 on a non-rolex replacement bracelet??!! I mean, it is their watch..........I am sure they realize that overall value might not be as high as with the original bracelet. People get so caught up in the "Rolex" image, brand mistique, etc.

If people saw the non-SEL, non-solid center link bracelet on a chinese quartz........they would say it was inferior. However, since it is "Rolex"........all the sudden it is "more balanced" or "durable enough" etc etc.

Sorry, I just don't drink the kool-aid.

goduke1 · 20 December 2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 777

No, not semantics at all, but instead the definition of the word "aftermarket" vs. the words "fake" / "counterfeit". They aren't the same at all and calling an aftermarket part a fake is simply incorrect.

I totally agree that none are genuine Rolex or authentic Rolex and they absolutely lessen the re-sale value of the watch as a whole.

Agreed.

Titan1979 · 20 December 2009, 01:09 AM

Wow....I didn't mean to cause such a fuss with this question. However, thanks for all the great info guys! I think I will go with the genuine Rolex bracelet.

criggs19 · 20 December 2009, 01:14 AM

I say it's just a watch bracelet, in the grand scheme of things it isn't that important. If you want to save money get the aftermarket.

Dan Pierce · 20 December 2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan1979

Wow....I didn't mean to cause such a fuss with this question. However, thanks for all the great info guys! I think I will go with the genuine Rolex bracelet.

No worries.

Just try the Rolex vs Tudor comparison and watch the sparks fly!

dP

Nicko · 20 December 2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by criggs19

I say it's just a watch bracelet, in the grand scheme of things it isn't that important. If you want to save money get the aftermarket.

Huh???!!

BarkMaster · 20 December 2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

No worries.

Just try the Rolex vs Tudor comparison and watch the sparks fly!

dP

One of the old-timers should make a list of "touchy" subjects to educate us Tossers.

1. Aftermarket parts
2. Rolex vs Tudor
3. Rolex vs. Casio/Timex
4. NATO (JJ's touchy subject)
5 and on

roamer · 20 December 2009, 09:49 AM

Personally, I'd always want the same bracelet that came with the watch and would be a genuine replacement if I needed one. That's just my personal preference. I don't see anything wrong with putting an aftermarket (not replica, aftermarket) bracelet on a Rolex if you like it better than the original. It certainly doesn't make your watch fake/half fake as some seem to think. Anymore than putting an aftermarket stereo in your Porsche makes it a Volkswagon.

criggs19 · 20 December 2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Huh???!!

I'll put it in simple terms for you. No Rolex bracelets aren't worth the $.

JBat · 20 December 2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by criggs19

I'll put it in simple terms for you. No Rolex bracelets aren't worth the $.

In your view. You can't make that determination for others.

JJ Irani · 20 December 2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JBat

In your view. You can't make that determination for others.

Correct!! I wouldn't be seen dead with any aftermarket bracelet on any of my watches.

If I can't afford the original bracelet or if the original is not available, then so be it - just stick with whatever original bracelet that has already come with the watch!!

slcbbrown · 21 December 2009, 01:05 AM

With Rolex you know what you're getting. The aftermarket stuff varies all over the place. There is absolute junk and some nice quality. I wouldn't buy aftermarket without seeing and touching it.

DWdrummer · 21 December 2009, 01:17 AM

I would say genuine. You wouldnt put WalMart tires on a Ferrari right?
I would spring for the original and authentic bracelet.

I see a lot of older Day Dates on the bay with aftermarket Italian bracelets etc. I would not buy that watch. I will go all Rolex, or I wont go.

Safetrends · 21 December 2009, 01:26 AM

I feel (my opinion is) a Rolex is only whole when it is 100% Rolex. Any aftermarket parts on a Rolex for me is not what Rolex intended.

Rolex made a statement something to the effect that each Rolex watch is a piece of art and each one is unique and I can see that in each Rolex!

Jason71 · 21 December 2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

....................Rolex made a statement something to the effect that each Rolex watch is a piece of art and each one is unique and I can see that in each Rolex!

More Rolex Kool-aid

I would buy the piece of art, but the "each one is unique"?

Kokyuryoku · 21 December 2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SLS

I think you are confusing the issue of parts and accessories here! To me a bracelet is a non functioning part of the watch. I will by no means accept aftermarket parts inside my watch.

Would your perspective change if Rolex offered Rubber straps to go with their Subs & SD's? Omega, Panerai and many other companies do this.

Scott

I agree

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Originally Posted by Titan1979

Wow....I didn't mean to cause such a fuss with this question. However, thanks for all the great info guys! I think I will go with the genuine Rolex bracelet.

Why don't you try Steve Mulholland first? He might be able to get you a good deal on a nice bracelet.

Safetrends · 21 December 2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jclevoy

More Rolex Kool-aid

I would buy the piece of art, but the "each one is unique"?

Take the photo here a Rolex date, change the watch a bit and it is totally different. Take the photo on the left and put a blue dial on it like my Date watch and it becomes unique.

dcmachead · 21 December 2009, 02:25 AM

Would you put Honda rims on your S-Class Benz?

BarkMaster · 21 December 2009, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dcmachead

Would you put Honda rims on your S-Class Benz?

They'd probably be more reliable!!

jsf74 · 21 December 2009, 02:51 AM

How would a RSC handle an aftermarket oyster bracelet that is not counterfeit with Rolex marking but obviously a copy otherwise?

Aftermarket = Not OEM
Fake = has Rolex markings but is not real

Aftermarket /= Fake

Safetrends · 21 December 2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 777

They'd probably be more reliable!!

Beonda type of car I think??? A lot of mods would have to be done to make them fit..

Jason71 · 21 December 2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Take the photo here a Rolex date, change the watch a bit and it is totally different. Take the photo on the left and put a blue dial on it like my Date watch and it becomes unique.

I guess I was thinking more along the lines of the 16610. They have made a gazzillion of those, and they are all pretty much the same.........Ok, they are EXACTLY the same. When I think of "unique" I think of:

unique [juːˈniːk]
adj
1. being the only one of a particular type; single; sole

Safetrends · 21 December 2009, 03:00 AM

Jason,

Merry Christmas and lets have fun!

19 December 2009, 12:34 PM	#62
BarkMaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Watch: 18078 YG DD Posts: 7,962	To settle the argument of "is aftermarket the same as fake?", take a look here: http://cgi.ebay.com/LADIES-18K-SS-JU...item439c1390fc That is an aftermarket bracelet. If it was fake, eBay could/would remove it. Think it's a fake? Try to get eBay to remove it. __________________ BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

19 December 2009, 12:33 PM	#61
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	Basically your Rolex will be half fake with the "After market" band...the choice is yours.

19 December 2009, 01:34 PM	#67
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	I say stay Real...I do have a shark strap on my Speedy Pro...but would not get a replica bracelet. Just my 2 cents.

20 December 2009, 01:09 AM	#70
Titan1979 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: canada Posts: 89	Wow....I didn't mean to cause such a fuss with this question. However, thanks for all the great info guys! I think I will go with the genuine Rolex bracelet.

20 December 2009, 01:14 AM	#71
criggs19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Pensacola,Florida Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 286	I say it's just a watch bracelet, in the grand scheme of things it isn't that important. If you want to save money get the aftermarket.

20 December 2009, 09:49 AM	#75
roamer Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Maryland Watch: 116000, 16610 Posts: 155	Personally, I'd always want the same bracelet that came with the watch and would be a genuine replacement if I needed one. That's just my personal preference. I don't see anything wrong with putting an aftermarket (not replica, aftermarket) bracelet on a Rolex if you like it better than the original. It certainly doesn't make your watch fake/half fake as some seem to think. Anymore than putting an aftermarket stereo in your Porsche makes it a Volkswagon.

21 December 2009, 01:05 AM	#79
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,688	With Rolex you know what you're getting. The aftermarket stuff varies all over the place. There is absolute junk and some nice quality. I wouldn't buy aftermarket without seeing and touching it.

21 December 2009, 01:17 AM	#80
DWdrummer Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 954	I would say genuine. You wouldnt put WalMart tires on a Ferrari right? I would spring for the original and authentic bracelet. I see a lot of older Day Dates on the bay with aftermarket Italian bracelets etc. I would not buy that watch. I will go all Rolex, or I wont go.

21 December 2009, 01:26 AM	#81
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	I feel (my opinion is) a Rolex is only whole when it is 100% Rolex. Any aftermarket parts on a Rolex for me is not what Rolex intended. Rolex made a statement something to the effect that each Rolex watch is a piece of art and each one is unique and I can see that in each Rolex!

21 December 2009, 02:25 AM	#85
dcmachead Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Washington, DC Watch: Rolex SS Daytona Posts: 122	Would you put Honda rims on your S-Class Benz?

21 December 2009, 02:51 AM	#87
jsf74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 14	How would a RSC handle an aftermarket oyster bracelet that is not counterfeit with Rolex marking but obviously a copy otherwise? Aftermarket = Not OEM Fake = has Rolex markings but is not real Aftermarket /= Fake

21 December 2009, 03:00 AM	#90
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	Jason, Merry Christmas and lets have fun!

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