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View Poll Results: AP Diver Steel vs VC Overseas Auto vs VC Overseas DualTime
AP Diver steel 53 49.53%
Vacheron Overseas Automatic White Dial Bracelet 27 25.23%
Vacheron Overseas Dual Time Grey Dial on Strap 27 25.23%
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Old 2 January 2015, 03:37 PM   #61
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There's also a bunch of Divers for sale ;-)

Not sure, don't love the chrono, I've got enough.
The Vacheron has a strange allure, don't know what it is because its not classically beautiful to me - its just alluring.
Agree, and that's exactly my point, a Diver comes up for sale almost on a daily basis.

But an Overseas rarely does, less of the around and people hang on to them.
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Old 2 January 2015, 04:20 PM   #62
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Ap Diver vs. VC Overseas

If you are interested there is a VC Overseas Chrono slate dial that is for sale on TRF for around $13k. Looks good 👍


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Old 2 January 2015, 10:16 PM   #63
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Agree, and that's exactly my point, a Diver comes up for sale almost on a daily basis.

But an Overseas rarely does, less of the around and people hang on to them.
You sure that's the reason and not that many fewer people by the VC?
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Old 2 January 2015, 10:18 PM   #64
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I have the open face RG with creamy dial - the dial has a very interesting grainy appearance.





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That is stunning. How's the weight? The Platinum was chunky. I'm sorely tempted on that one. Is the time relatively readable at a glance? It's funny, I told myself no more chronos right now, but I don't think this falls under that category.
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Old 3 January 2015, 02:16 AM   #65
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That is stunning. How's the weight? The Platinum was chunky. I'm sorely tempted on that one. Is the time relatively readable at a glance? It's funny, I told myself no more chronos right now, but I don't think this falls under that category.

The weight is well balanced - not too heavy at all on my wrist. I have not tried on a Platinum. I have the 42mm and it feels good on the wrist - a slight tad large on my 6.25" wrist.
Time is easily legible, likely due to the gold hands against the white dial. But also all the Chrono functions contrast very nicely with the blue hands.
The one difference of the Chronographe with the QDL is that the time is on the left on the Chronographe, whereas it was moved to the right on the QDL. If you wear the watch on the left wrist with a dress shirt, it is easier to read the QDL of the shirt cuff is slightly covering the watch.
The other two differences you mentioned I agreed. I could not handle the Foudroyante jumping every 1/6 second All the time on the QDL, whereas on the Chronographe it runs only with the chronograph function.
It is much more difficult for the second mainspring barrel to run a fast moving chronograph compared to a slower date complication. This kudos to the original design.
It's a stellar piece and easily one of my most favorites.
Here's a short vid of the 2 in action when I was trying to compare the two models
http://youtu.be/38YYkx5vJIY


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Old 3 January 2015, 03:06 AM   #66
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You sure that's the reason and not that many fewer people by the VC?
Haha, I mentioned that there are less of them around, because less people buy them of course.

Then again, I believe that more people buy the AP and then flip it once the hype is gone, not so much with the VC.

At least that's what happened to me!

Here's a good idea, get the Diver preowned, if you don't like it flip it at a marginal loss and get a preowned Overseas.
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Old 4 January 2015, 06:18 AM   #67
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I think I'm in for the Diver. Spent a little time ogling a friends VC and wasn't so into it. I found it excessively shiny and the Maltese motif to be a bit too much. On the bezel, the clasp, the bracelet, the dial. It all came off a bit forced. An attractive watch for sure, but didn't have the coherence and integration of the AP line or the nautilus.

Thanks everyone for the insights...
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Old 4 January 2015, 07:34 AM   #68
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I think I'm in for the Diver. Spent a little time ogling a friends VC and wasn't so into it. I found it excessively shiny and the Maltese motif to be a bit too much. On the bezel, the clasp, the bracelet, the dial. It all came off a bit forced. An attractive watch for sure, but didn't have the coherence and integration of the AP line or the nautilus.

Thanks everyone for the insights...
My experience was similar, I was keen on a VCO but the Maltese-ness was a bit too much in the end. Diver was the one for me.
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Old 4 January 2015, 04:56 PM   #69
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The weight is well balanced - not too heavy at all on my wrist. I have not tried on a Platinum. I have the 42mm and it feels good on the wrist - a slight tad large on my 6.25" wrist.
Time is easily legible, likely due to the gold hands against the white dial. But also all the Chrono functions contrast very nicely with the blue hands.
The one difference of the Chronographe with the QDL is that the time is on the left on the Chronographe, whereas it was moved to the right on the QDL. If you wear the watch on the left wrist with a dress shirt, it is easier to read the QDL of the shirt cuff is slightly covering the watch.
The other two differences you mentioned I agreed. I could not handle the Foudroyante jumping every 1/6 second All the time on the QDL, whereas on the Chronographe it runs only with the chronograph function.
It is much more difficult for the second mainspring barrel to run a fast moving chronograph compared to a slower date complication. This kudos to the original design.
It's a stellar piece and easily one of my most favorites.
Here's a short vid of the 2 in action when I was trying to compare the two models
http://youtu.be/38YYkx5vJIY


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Fantastic. I called my local AD to see if they still have the WG black dial, as I heard it was a limited edition. Would love to see that one. Either way, the Duometre line is a secret treasure in the world of haute horology.
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Old 4 January 2015, 06:00 PM   #70
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I voted for the AP Diver, but I must say that the VC dual time is a looker!
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vacheron constantine grey dial.
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