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Thanks Skippy. Hadn't found that site.
I may have a way to get a BNIB from an AD well below MRRP. Might have to wait a while for it to happen though but if i can save £1000 i'm happy to wait. Quote:
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Love the avitar, Jordan. Does it mean you love your rolex more than your Mrs!!!
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I'm continuing to enjoy this thread!
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MRRP is now £3040.00 here so if i can't one down the route i'd like i may be taking a trip on the eurostar!!
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Thanks for starting this thread, David, and for all the comments, guys.
For 20+ years, I was a pleased to be a Rolex owner and left the fold some six years ago. Recently I decided that the GMT I in my collection was not really meeting my needs so began to look around. I wanted something to track two timezones (not three) with a classic look to wear with jeans or suit (or in my case, black shirt/white collar). The Explorer II seems to be the watch I am looking for. At first I wanted the white dial and then I saw the black and white side-by-side - black wins, hands down. More classic, more stealth. So I've made my decision but still have two problems. The first is finding two black M/3186s in stock anywhere. (Yes, two as a friend wants one as well.) Secondly, I have never paid MSRP for any watch and finding a deal, even on two, has been difficult. But regardless, I'm in no hurry and things have a way of working out. Thanks again for a great thread. Fr. John+ |
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Hi again, Father John, Thank you for the kind words, both here and in the PM. Congratulations on your inbound Noir Explorer II! This watch is the perfect sports Rolex for your usual attire, and will dress up and down and still look great with everything from your "off duty" street clothes, to your daily black/white, even Easter/Wedding robes. I agree that the black dial is particularly appropriate for you, and happy that you were able to source a good price, as this is a major purchase for a man of modest means. I'm thrilled that my discussions helped you make a good decision, and if you're ever in St Paul, we'll have to get together. We have a pretty nice cathedral up here that you should see! http://www.cathedralsaintpaul.org/ May the Lord be with you, David
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Welcome to TRF Fr. John.
The Exp II is a very respectible choice and the one I usually travel with if the journey has any adventure planned at all. That, and I think it has some great, classic, and timeless lines:
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Thats interesting, and worth "exploring" a bit: Any pictures of the Explorers with calibre 3186 (the calibre itself in the case)? Do you mind giving us the first numbers of the M-serial. I assume M01..to M04...
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This means that we can expect photos tomorrow?
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It was very frustrating trying to find two black M/3186 EXPIIs. Most dealers had no clue as to the 3186 and could not understand why I was so insistent as to the movement. I kept hearing "The Z is the current model with the latest movement." "They look just alike." The watchmaker at one AD came out and tried to convince me to buy the Z/3185 out of the case. "The 3186 is a new movement and you should never buy a new movement until it has been out for at least five years", the watchmaker told me. This was after he said that it would be 2-3 years before Rolex put the 3186 in the Explorer II. Fr. John+ |
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According to all info I have (from several Rolex watchmakers) the 16570 have been delivered since late 2007 with calibre 3186. I have specifically spoken to the watchmakers at the AD:s, not the sales persons about the calibre. Looking forward to see your watch. And if you pop it open remember to bring a camera to verify not only the proper case, but also pictures of the movement including designation (3186). Until then, here is mine: (Perhaps I shall open mine anyway...) Best, A Last edited by Tools; 19 January 2020 at 12:50 PM.. Reason: corrupted image |
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Great thread. After being back with my rolices for the last six weeks, and switching frequently between my Sub and Expy-II, I definitely prefer the feel of the Expy-II. In fact, I dare say that I prefer the Expy-II overall to the Sub. The Expy is very comfortable and light--a marked difference from the Sub. I also appreciate the 24-hour hand. Overall, I prefer the black dial on a Rolex, and I love the contrast between the WG markers and the inky-black dial.
I had the Sub first, and when I bought the Expy my intent was for the Expy to be my casual-to-dressy watch, and the Sub to be my beater (so to speak) for all activities from working out to water activities, etc. And, since I spend a lot of time doing those things, I end up wearing the Sub more. However, I much prefer the feel of the Expy, and I believe it is rugged enough for any challenge. If I were to recommend a model for the person who will have only one watch: Black-dial Expy-II.
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Nice post on the Expy2, and glad you're enjoying yourse! I agree that this would be a great "only watch" for a great many people, if they only knew about it and appreciated it!
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And they look good dressed for any ocassion:
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I received a black dial Ex II as a gift after many, many years of wearing my original Submariner. It was my second Rolex and I never liked it. It just looked like my Sub's little brother, with an itty bitty crown and no rotating bezel. I could not get used to it, so I eventually traded it almost even up on a lightly used TT Blue Sub.
Fast forward a few years. I acquired a new white dial Ex II and I absolutely love it. It is, by far, the most legible of my Rolex watches (almost matched by my Speedy, but not quite). It is practical, light and hardly noticeable. I actually like the fact that it does not scream "ROLEX!" and it goes practically unnoticed. I wore it on my motorcycle tour around Iceland, and it was fantastic. When I travel across time zones, it usually gets the nod, and especially if I don't have to time things (like flight duration and billable hours). If I do have to time things, I reluctantly choose my GMT-II instead, but I prefer the Ex II. I also have a vintage Explorer, but I hardly wear it. Too small.
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they are similar(GMTII non ceramic & Explorer II)
The movement(cal. 3185),crown,crystal,and much more are the same.Because the GMT has a rotating bezel there is an(unseen)"under- bezel"that contacts the crystal washer for seating,and there is some extra hardware:bezel tension spring and a clicking spring to help it rotate in a controlled fashion.The ExplorerII bezel fixes like most Rolex's-directly to the crystal's washer(seat)with strong friction.
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Welcome to TRF! Is that pic of you? Are you a watchmaker? Great first post.
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