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7 October 2010, 08:46 PM | #91 |
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It's the same story Glenn....the guy is unbelievable. But now there's some pressure maybe he will cough up. And that is the most important thing here. That he pays you back...or as Steve has stated it is a felony. So Tristan....if you are reading this: pay Glenn back what is rightfully his. You cannot .. And WILL NOT...get away with theft of this amount of money. No way. Glenn has been patient and exceptionally calm considering. So please do the right thing by him.
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7 October 2010, 09:04 PM | #92 |
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I read with disbelief, not the same crook again!!!!
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I'm not up to date on the specifics but, couldn't this be reported to Interpol? It is a international internet fraud crime and since the specifics are all on the envelope should be easy to report....?
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Either way it's wrong to take money like this. I had issues with a couple scams, and never got my funds back. Interpol was an option, but there are steps to make it criminal, and something to justify this type investigation. I had $6k taken from two sellers. One was in Spain, and one was in Canada. I'm a flippin police officer, and got nowhere. Not to suggest not attempting to recover your funds, but it is crazy trying to enforce laws past our border. I'm sure it's that way vice versa. Interpol is a good way to track offenders, and locate large criminals, but hasn't proven much in cases like these yet. The local police may consider it a civil issue. I bet if you live in a border town, the local law enforcement are familiar with the process to charge criminals just over the border, and abroad. Good luck! |
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Paul GlennW lives in Hawaii and tristian in Spain... international .. speaking of boarders, I some years back purchased a semi destroyed Daytona wanted to do partial repair, only to get a fake. I reported it to the Az. state AG online and he and his wife are now in prison received my first repayment check of $4.00 thats right four dollars! just waiting on the other $1,196.00 to arrive (right) and I bought the seller, hook line and sinker!
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I don't think he is 'welcomed' or 'praised' anywhere else, fellas. Just given a final chance to be a man and speak up - but that appears to be for naught as well. Nothing more, believe you me.
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I recently read somewhere that Mr Faber came good after all.
Ball's in your court......easily fixed
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As usual, direct and to the point. Thanks buddy.
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It is interesting that the very negative comments about hoping that Tristan "really stuck it to Steve" etc have been removed by their poster over there. Perhaps that indicates a recognition that this is far more serious than a petty argument between the mods and a few former members. I actually would like to hear what be has to say for himself. I was one who publicly posted here suggesting that it was all likely a misunderstanding. He has no honor and will get no respect from me here, or elsewhere. If that means that I am not welcome on your pet forum, so be it. I was around long before it started, and I'll be around after it's gone too. This is not about TRF or your members feud with Steve, this is about exposing a confirmed deadbeat liar and driving him out of the places where he is a threat to the watch community. As long as he has other peoples money and/or property, calling credit card reversals reimbursement, etc that makes him a thief as well. One of your own was almost taken by this conman for the same Heritage Chrono, did you know that? He's a threat. Period. I'm sure he's here and elsewhere already with a new identity, nothing can be done about that. But I don't want to knowingly engage in friendly banter with him either. Of course you're free to host him there as you all see fit. You're a bright guy, I'm sure you recall what happens when you lie with dogs.
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Personally there are some members over there such as yourself Doc (David) that I miss seeing regularly over here. That's why I was chatting there with you a bit. But there is something underlying all this. And that stinks. Sorry.
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To be clear, I don't believe that anyone really supports this kind of behavior at all. Several members just hate Steve and don't like the way the forum is run. As I said, the inappropriate messages were redacted yesterday, probably not to hide anything, but simply cooler heads prevailing, and recognizing the implications of what was written in anger. Most posters there don't have any real issues with TRF, not that I am aware of anyway.
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Now, I want all of you righteously indignant principled fellows to please keep a few things in mind. First of all, every watch forum that I am aware of has, in some form or another, a rule that states, to wit, "Leave disputes from other forums at the door when you come here" A good rule, virtually impossible to police, since we are all registered at numerous forums. Secondly, if Steve had not attempted to purchase a watch from Tristan with the well-known sequelae, he would still be here, posting away in the Watch-out and padding a very generous post-count, second only to Safetrends with respect to the speed at which it grew. A well-respected member with a sterling reputation. Thirdly, nobody here thinks any more of Dalip than I, BUT... he didn't report his problem with Tristan until well after Steve started the ball rolling and the pilers-on began chiming in harmony. Then, and only then, did he speak up. So, Brian...last night you barged in, and virtually demanded that we ban Tristan (and to a much more discreet extent, so did Dalip), based solely on hearsay evidence from other forums, and proceed to tell us that the fact that we don't just jump aboard with you, indicates that we're not nearly as savvy and well-concluded as yourself. After all, that's the way y'all do things at the country club, right ? Summarizing, if Stevo had not had a personal experience with Tristan, would he be banning him empirically based on hearsay from other forums, or would he give him an opportunity to speak up ? That's all we're doing, and if it's all the same to you, Brian, we'll do it at our own pace and then make the determination when we see fit.
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Oh, and for the record, I consider Brian to be a good fellow poster and internet friend, but sometimes we have to take a stand in the interest of principle. So I owe you a brewski when we meet Brian.
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And inevitably he used my posting as a reason he wasn't going to reimburse us! He even stated that he reversed the wire when I did post...BS of course...but predictable.
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And you'll definitely owe me a beer now by the way Doc
Or I'll owe you one....heck...let's just run a tab
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Meet you in the bar. Don't worry, I always get the tab. (Evidently, unlike our Spanish friend )
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Actually I clearly said that you are free to allow this person to post on your forum if you wish, BUT there were some things you needed to know, and I demanded answers from Tristan for his actions, not for his instant banning. I also said that we would not allow a scoundrel like this man to remain in the club, as an example, a good example. As to where these messages are, I told you where to find them, on your forum and they've been there since August BTW. I'm sorry you think exposing a thief in your forum is bringing "drama from another forum" to your doorstep. I call it a heads up. By the way, as I've been a member for several months, how did I barge in anywhere?
Who is spinning what now David? I don't have a problem with you BTW for the record, you're sticking up for your forum. I understand. I'll let it go. If he does post in that thread, I reserve the right to speak my mind. I'm sure you wouldn't have it any other way in a forum founded on plain speaking and openness.
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And if you're buying I'll have ......hmmmn.... See you in the bar
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OK, let's move along. Nothing to see here !
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I just got my popcorn, and cold coke ready.
I myself understand, and appreciate the ability of the forum to conduct a fair trial before making a member walk the plank. With that said, we are a cut above the other forums, and need to purge the BS when it arises. I have no desire to run block for a scammer, liar, or conman. I also conduct the majority of my hobby interest on TRF, and enjoy the honest people here that I trust. For someone to betray that, and continue to have a microphone here, I disagree. Once you lie, steal, and cheat, it's time to go. I'm sure the mods, and Steve have many small fires to deal with behind the scenes. I don't question why someone get's banned. I'm a normal human, and want to know what happened simply for the reason that a fellow trusted member is now gone for being dishonest. That is good to know for future events. I don't want any of us to be scammed, and definately not from one of our own. Glad to see everyone worked things out. It's hard when the person you knew does something so out of charicter. Almost scary with all of the good friendships made here. |
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Some of you hit the nail on the head.....see below, latest email from Tristan. He doesn't mention anything about the bracelet being replaced with the wrench while in transit, but mentions that legally I can't do anything about. My credit card company told me to send the wrench back (if it was anything other than what I paid for)......anyone want to bet that the return address is bogus? Also, let's not forget....the $500 was a down payment for a watch, not whatever was in the envelope (bracelet, wrench, or whatever). Hi Glenn I have asked my bank to trace the wire and they said it may take up to 2 days . So I should have 100% of who has the money by tomorrow the latest . I will Paypal you the 142 usd difference . We paid the $ 500 usd to Paypal as we accepted the return : I'm convinced you have received the wire , then again being it you I have some doubt and if you indeed have not I can also understand you have your doubts . I'm un my way to France but will be back tomorrow . Just to show you that I never had any intention to scam you : the tracking number with proof of reception I have is legally enough to justify not reimbursing you , I know as it was done to me for 2180 euro .. a 29kg object was returned to me in a 89 gram envelope : Paypal accepted and 4 police reports and several lawyer letters got me nowhere .. Well only lawyer bills . Glenn the money is returned and so is the Paypal . I will send you the 142 difference today What I can't understand is why he just doesn't send me a scanned copy of the wire transaction that he keeps insisting was sent? |
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Gees I'm going for the Grand Marnier. This is getting disgusting.
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What happened to his flying to Los Angeles to get axed from his "family business", in Spain? I suspect he's losing track of the lies that he's telling to multiple people with multiple bad deals. What's that movie quote, "lies on top of lies on top of lies..." Try to deal with the police and cut the dirtbag loose. He basically said he was done in that last email. It's going to be the bank's fault. "You're the liar now" is what to expect after that, with some profanity and YELLING. He probably sent you the wrench to "prove" that he sent you the watch if the Police ever did come calling in Spain. I hope we are all wrong, but blaming banks for losing money is a joke. This is exactly why I try to only do business in the US.
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I remember the story of his stolen Daytona (search forums). This story seems to me too many detailed to be false, and seems Rolex Spain knows well this person, maybe you can talk with Rolex Spain about this guy.
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