Submariner vs Seamaster

[greengold]

Originally Posted by Bladeshot

I had the current version, blue wave dial, blue rubber straps, earlier this year. Sold it immediately. Could not live with the skeleton hands! I was in love with the idea of this piece, but absolutely could not stand the hands, once on my wrist.



As for overall build, quality, feel, etc., Submariner wins hands down, for me.

My first premium watch was an Omega Seamaster GMT, during about the year 2000. Loved it. It was a great place to start the hobby, but I have become a Rolex enthusiast, and I won’t be going back to Omega. Nothing wrong with Omega. It’s merely personal preference.

YMMV.

I've always actually liked the skeleton hands personally

[Bladeshot]

Originally Posted by greengold

I've always actually liked the skeleton hands personally

Understood, my friend! It’s all a matter of personal preference, like clothes, cars, food, music, etc. There is something for everyone. Just took me a while to settle on what works for me. Cheers.

[greengold]

Originally Posted by Seibei

No, not interested.

Must admit, the HEV never bothered me in the 2 years I owned my Seamaster previously

[Onikage]

How are the bezels on these Seamasters? Can you turn them or do you need a caseback opener like the old ones?

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

The 2254.50 is a great alternative to the 14060/16610.

Can't speak to the newer references, but in my opinion it's their best SMP design.

X2 love that watch, even with the stiff bezel :)

[forcinitijp]

Omega and Rolex are two popular brands, one more expensive ... not for the sake of being better, but because people appreciate it more and become an element of status before other people "look at me I have a rolex" 95% of people who buy a Sub or Seamaster use it to jump the waves on the seashore or to get into a pool ... after that they go looking at their wrists to see if their watch is more expensive than the neighbor ... some say that rolex has better resale value, I think it's relative ... if you have the desire to sell it in a particular way to a stranger you run many risks ... if you sell it to a reliable seller it comes out always losing money ....
Now, it is better Omega SMP than Rolex Sub .... I believe that in term of materials ... they leave the same of cost to factories ... in terms of mental value of people ... for some a Rolex is something of wealthy people only, and the reality is that it is an entry level brand for anyone who knows of watches, just like Omega, nothing more than with omega SMP you have it available in stores and it costs almost half a Sub ....

[AF_Rob]

I've held both models and overall, I think the Omega edges out the Rolex. Omega has just made such improvements, that it has passed the Rolex by this year, IMO. However, it's just not wearable on me.

[Brny11]

Originally Posted by Stew7

Rolex will always have the marketing edge but notoriety and a higher price doesn't dictate engineering superiority or value. The new Seamaster is a fantastic watch and is a better value than the Rolex considering you effectively get equal technology and features for half the Rolex price (factoring in street prices).



"Better" means different things to different people. Sure the Sub is more valuable but it's not a better value. And it's definitely not engineered any better or worse than the Omega. They are both bulletproof.

This is your answer.

If you want the perception of best, Rolex. If you want the better watch, I’d argue the coaxial movement is technically superior (but both are great). Aesthetically, they don’t compare IMO. Sub is just perfect. Omega is fine, I am sure for some. Personally, I do not like it.

[Seibei]

Omega is trying to be something.
Rolex is something.

I suppose which one you like may reflect where you are in life. One brand is suitable/best for one group of people while the other brand is suitable for another group. Great news, since everyone can have the watch that is appropriate for who they are.

[doramas]

Originally Posted by BradSomrak

The Seamaster wins hands down in technology. A metas co-axial is an objectively better movement than the 3135.

The Sub is obviously the much more “historical” piece. It’s an icon for a reason. It’s timeless.

To each their own. But to claim the sub is “better” because it costs more or the resale value is higher is lazy, and lacks nuance.

I’ve owned both, FWIW.

Totally agree with you.

[asiparks]

Originally Posted by Seibei

Omega is trying to be something.
Rolex is something.

I suppose which one you like may reflect where you are in life. One brand is suitable/best for one group of people while the other brand is suitable for another group. Great news, since everyone can have the watch that is appropriate for who they are.

What a bunch of poncy patronizing nonsense....

[Loevhagen]

Originally Posted by asiparks

What a bunch of poncy patronizing nonsense....

+1

Utterly Rolex fanboy nonsense that - unfortunattely - feed the view some have of some Rolex owners.

[DD9506]

I would stick with a Sub.

The Omega is a very good watch and attractive to look at, but IMO its design dates quickly whereas the Sub seems to stay fresh looking- to my mind anyway!

[BradSomrak]

Originally Posted by Seibei

Omega is trying to be something.
Rolex is something.

I suppose which one you like may reflect where you are in life. One brand is suitable/best for one group of people while the other brand is suitable for another group. Great news, since everyone can have the watch that is appropriate for who they are.

Rolex is trying to be something - like a member of the Holy Trinity. Which they are not.

Patek, Vacheron and AP are something.

I guess I’m a lesser person when I wear my Rolex than the guy with his Patek. And the next day I’m even less when I wear my Omega than I was the day before.

(What absolute friggen nonsense).

[BradSomrak]

The arguments over totally inanimate objects on here are incredible.

They are watches. That’s it. Unnecessary, completely superfluous watches.

Wear what you like. Who cares about the rest.

My two cents.

[Rocco21]

To me the sea master is no comparison to sub.I put a sub on and I get a feeling I’ve tried on seamasters and no feeling whatsoever.

[greengold]

Originally Posted by BradSomrak

The arguments over totally inanimate objects on here are incredible.

They are watches. That’s it. Unnecessary, completely superfluous watches.

Wear what you like. Who cares about the rest.

My two cents.

You've spent a lot more cents that two on this thread but thankyou

[BradSomrak]

Originally Posted by greengold

You've spent a lot more cents that two on this thread but thankyou

That made me laugh. Well played.

[brandrea]

I much prefer the more classic understated Submariner.

Something about Omega's dial and bracelet that are a bit too busy for me.

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[beshannon]

Originally Posted by Seibei

Omega is trying to be something.
Rolex is something.

I suppose which one you like may reflect where you are in life. One brand is suitable/best for one group of people while the other brand is suitable for another group. Great news, since everyone can have the watch that is appropriate for who they are.

Thanks for the laughs

[Justinmg]

Originally Posted by Seibei

Omega is trying to be something.
Rolex is something.

I suppose which one you like may reflect where you are in life. One brand is suitable/best for one group of people while the other brand is suitable for another group. Great news, since everyone can have the watch that is appropriate for who they are.

wow speaking like a true WIS. Another reason I tend to like Omega owners

[VacherObsessive]

Rolex has superior finishing and attention to detail as well as more iconic design principals. The omega bracelet in my view looks cheap

[Gladiat0r]

I sold my ceramic submariner date for more money than I bought it for.
I just sold my Daytona TT for a profit as well.
Money from both went into 2 new Rolexes that I got for a good price.

I don’t think I could have done the same with Omega. So from a value standpoint, yes Rolex are more money up front. But if you ever plan on trading your watch in/selling it, you will be very happy you purchased the Rolex.

With that said, I have great respect for Omega. I would love to get a Speedmaster some day. The Seamaster Just doesn’t speak to me as does the submariner/sea dweller.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I much prefer the more classic understated Submariner.

Something about Omega's dial and bracelet that are a bit too busy for me.

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Me too. But then again a Rolex does nothing well yet everything well.

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[samson66]

Originally Posted by asiparks

What a bunch of poncy patronizing nonsense....

Where is the "Agree" button on here!

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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Etschell

Me too. But then again a Rolex does nothing well yet everything well.

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[Junior_]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Those keep rambling on HEV and skeleton hands: Have you ever tried it for a couple of days on you own wrist?

Yes. And that confirmed they are, to my eye, hideous.

I’m not ripping Omega-I love the Speedmaster-but the current SMP hurts my eyes.

[Junior_]

Originally Posted by Onikage

X2 love that watch, even with the stiff bezel :)

My brother-in-law has that Omega. That’s a great looking Seamaster, as compared to the current SM.

But that, to me, shows everything wrong with the SM-no continuity of the line over time. The current SM looks, in no way, like it is in any way related to the 2254.50.

[Junior_]

Originally Posted by forcinitijp

... for some a Rolex is something of wealthy people only, and the reality is that it is an entry level brand for anyone who knows of watches, just like Omega,

Rolex is by no means “entry level” except as compared to Patek, etc.

Seiko is entry level. Orient is entry level.

[Junior_]

Originally Posted by BradSomrak

That made me laugh. Well played.

Love this thread. Some people spend all day arguing about politics. Better to spend it discussing watches. Seriously. In the end, while I don’t like the SMP for me, it’s all a shared interest.