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The alleged swindle aside for a moment, I agree it would be unsettling to see family member’s data posted. This is data that I understand the poster’s gained via searching public records. But it is chilling to anyone wanting to follow the rule of law. As for the OP’s claims - he has been surprisingly silent on the case after retaining an attorney. It would be to the accused seller’s benefit to at least address the case unless doing so would tend to incriminate him or actions of his family. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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7 May 2018, 02:08 AM | #93 |
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MB23 Got In Touch! Thank You (+ Please Calm Down)
!!! You guys are unreal. I never thought this post would get so much attention or support from the forums. Thanks to all of you who have helped.
UPDATE: Michael reached out to me to sort out and try to make this right. I'll be totally honest. He apologized for his behavior, disclosed his personal reasons for going AWOL and offered to get onto a payment plan to get squared away. He sent $5k towards the $35k I paid him and we're going to execute a promissory note to memorialize the rest. (If any of you guys have other ideas or know what I'm forgetting, please let me know). Please refrain from posting any personal info, and if possible please don't blow them up in real life. I'm hoping that as long as there's (1)Honesty and (2)Progress, everyone should get a 2nd chance. THANK YOU again to everyone here who's been so helpful. Mike is making progress and I'd like to think we'll get to a positive resolution. Please don't let this turn south on us, the community has been extremely supportive. Thanks!! |
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Glad to hear. All the best.
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Thanks for the update. The power of this forum is incredible.
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7 May 2018, 02:15 AM | #96 |
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That's great news until all your money is righteously return back to you.
It's not worth to go AWOL for 35K or let alone for any amount. The forum has a lot of people with a lot of skills and expertise....and with lots of money :) |
7 May 2018, 02:19 AM | #97 |
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Glad to hear this is on the path to resolution, and ultimately full restitution.
As for the personal date already exposed, those who posted it can contact a Mod to redact it from your post without prejudice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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7 May 2018, 02:25 AM | #98 |
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Amazing what the threat / exposure of personal info does!
I wish you luck and glad progress has been made |
7 May 2018, 02:29 AM | #99 |
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glad to hear this. hopefully you get all 35k back.
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Glad to hear he's reached out.
The real reason he got in touch with you is because Google has been particularly unfriendly with his details and this thread. It takes just about one sour deal to ruin a good reputation. He has the liquidity to make this right; don't settle for a promissory note. |
7 May 2018, 03:34 AM | #101 |
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Glad to hear some money has been returned, but keep on him until you are made whole!
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7 May 2018, 03:59 AM | #102 |
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Good to hear some money is being returned, I hope he makes good on his promise.
As for his personal information being on display, this is the only reason he's contacted you at all, I think it should stay where it is, at least until you have the full $35k. Might make him pay it back a little quicker.
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HELP! $35K nightmare w/ MB23 aka Michael Russo Rolex dealer
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I have dealt with Mike over the years and much more than 35k. I am glad he is doing the right thing. I have to say I am a little disappointed that he didn't manage this better, but I give him the benefit of doubt. Now he is going to have to rebuild years worth of solid reputation!
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7 May 2018, 04:52 AM | #105 |
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OP- I am very happy to read of the resolution agreed upon between you and MB23. It is a truly unfortunate situation. I too believe in second chances but also that he should have been proactive in making it right and not waiting for months, and only once he was called out on a forum. It should have never come to this and he knows it. That said, I do hope payment is made in full and that this is put to rest for good. Good luck!
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7 May 2018, 04:57 AM | #106 |
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Glad to hear there is progress. So are we to assume the watch was never shipped? The AWOL situation is secondary. I'd make sure this was resolved sooner than later and get the agreement notarized.
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I agree about some sort of punishment where this forum is concerned with his account and my advice to the OP is to make sure that any payment plan is legally documented and executed. |
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5 months of an interest-free loan and a Father's birthday gift - ruined - would be enough for most people to want to turn some legal screws. The SkyDweller in question stopped appearing on his Instagram page on December 17th, so I want to believe that s/he only carelessly enriched a dishonest FedEx employee. Maybe driving to the FedEx store in a yellow lambo and leave the package on the counter is a bad idea. But given the way Michael Russo portrays himself in social media. 5k and a promissory note is really an insult. |
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OP, I hope this works out for you... But if it does not.
You can sue him here in California*, serve him in NY and he will have to come to L.A. to defend himself for the trial. No need for you to hire a NY Atty. or go to court there. Best of luck. *You entered into a contract in Santa Monica, CA. (L.A. County) thus L.A., CA. has jurisdiction. Jurisdiction rules are your friend. ;) |
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You are correct, but it's not as easy as it may seem. He could sue him in CA and get a default judgement if he doesn't defend, but unless Mr. Russo owns property or assets in CA, the OP will need to take the CA judgment to a Court in NY and try to get them to recognize the judgment. Mr. Russo could have a lawyer oppose the foreign judgment in NY, thus forcing the OP to get a lawyer in NY. |
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7 May 2018, 08:01 AM | #115 |
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Wow! I was not very optimistic about you getting your money back. I hope he follows through with payment plan.
That being said I would only buy a watch face to face or by using a credit card which gives you some recourse. Just not worth the risk in my opinion. Best of luck! |
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It is a concept best described in this article. https://www.americanbar.org/content/...thcheckdam.pdf Even after catching a thief red-handed, there are proper procedures.
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To OP, so glad to hear that you are on the path of restitution, but in the future (for our sake and for yours, lol), and I *know* you know this, but please stick with Rolex ADs or the most elite of the trusted sellers here.
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HELP! $35K nightmare w/ MB23 aka Michael Russo Rolex dealer
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OP said that he did 5 deals with MB23 over the course of the last few years. He had every reason to trust him just as much if not more than any other “trusted seller”. It’s not like he was being careless. |
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7 May 2018, 11:45 AM | #119 |
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Yes, this was not a fly-by-night shady backstreet vendor. He's been selling HIGH end prestige brands for at least 6 years and has(d) a registered office in the watch and jewelry district in NYC. There was no way the buyer could have known the deal would go sour. The fact he hadn't listed a watch since last summer was a bit of a red flag but after several successful transactions he would not have thought to check or be suspicious.
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Impo......your right to privacy is reduced when you abscond with someone's money. Don't be fooled. The seller was fine kicking the can down the road for 5 months. Only when made public did he connect with the OP and attempt to make it right.
Outside of a coma.....there are not many excuses that prevent someone from contacting you in this day and age. For 5 months.....the OP was a prince and totally patient. More than most would have done. Hopefully it works out. This is a good lesson to be learned. |
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