I really dislike the Sub 116610 with ceramic bazel

[AK797]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

When I see a Sub on someone's wrist I'm thinking, "Dude, hold your arm still long enough for me to get a close look so I can tell which one it is."

At least youre only thinking it, Im still working on the not grabbing.

[stockae92]

easy fix for you would be sell it, buy a 16610. end of story :)

[bawlin]

Is anyone with a 7" wrist rocking the Sub-C? Thoughts?

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by Explorertwo

I 'm in love with the subc for three years now and still loving it!
I understand the lug 'thing' , but the other upgrades makes the SubC a more everyday watch. Especially the maxi dial en the lume are great upgrades compared to my 'older' model
Greetings!

I keep reading about the maxi-dial on the new sub but I thought this wasn't possible according to a salesman at 'my' Rolex AD. I'm getting confused by the day. I though only the GMT and the Hulk had a maxi dial?


Just to be sure, the updates are:

1. The new clasp/bracelet glidelock
2. The Chromalight lume
3. Ceramic bezel
4. no lug holes
edit: 5. Maxi case

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

I keep reading about the maxi-dial on the new sub but I thought this wasn't possible according to a salesman at 'my' Rolex AD. I'm getting confused by the day. I though only the GMT and the Hulk had a maxi dial?


Just to be sure, the updates are:

1. The new clasp/bracelet glidelock
2. The Chromalight lume
3. Ceramic bezel
4. no lug holes
edit: 5. Maxi case

The no lugs holes isn't new to the 116610. They eliminated the lug holes from the Sub with the 16610 around 2000-ish I think.

[nauticajoe]

Hey, to each their own.

Good luck.

[TimeOnMyHands]

After reading this thread and others concerning the newer fat lugs and ceramic bezels, I predict the last generation Rolex sport models increasing in price while the new generation of Rolex sport models dropping both in price and interest. Just a conclusion from all of the posts and relevant threads. Time will tell. Buy the last gen models while you can!

[Billywiz]

Originally Posted by TimeOnMyHands

After reading this thread and others concerning the newer fat lugs and ceramic bezels, I predict the last generation Rolex sport models increasing in price while the new generation of Rolex sport models dropping both in price and interest. Just a conclusion from all of the posts and relevant threads. Time will tell. Buy the last gen models while you can!

I think you are probably right...

[ufboy73]

i think it would be foolish to think that posts on this forum are in any way representative of the general buying public - just my thought based on conversations ive had with people who are not as into watches but have purchased a rolex

[Spartan]

sorry, I have to disagree with you on that one!
I had (twice) a 16610, A and M serials, once a 16613, A serial and twice a 116613, once in blue and once in black (currently my daily wear).

Overall the ceramic model is so much better at least for me
Unless you like "vintage"; those old Subs just feel like they
are from another era

[accce]

I wonder if you can have the case reshaped so the lugs don't look so boxy? If a watch gets polished too much the lugs thin out so why not do it on purpose?

[PunkJr]

Originally Posted by accce

I wonder if you can have the case reshaped so the lugs don't look so boxy? If a watch gets polished too much the lugs thin out so why not do it on purpose?

don't forget about those bloated crown guards as well.

[capote]

Originally Posted by accce

I wonder if you can have the case reshaped so the lugs don't look so boxy? If a watch gets polished too much the lugs thin out so why not do it on purpose?

It has been done, a thread about it is laying around somewhere here.

[godowning]

I like both. Variety is the spice of life.

[busytimmy]

Originally Posted by TimeOnMyHands

After reading this thread and others concerning the newer fat lugs and ceramic bezels, I predict the last generation Rolex sport models increasing in price while the new generation of Rolex sport models dropping both in price and interest. Just a conclusion from all of the posts and relevant threads. Time will tell. Buy the last gen models while you can!

Nope. WIS, or folks enthusiastic about the brand to discuss their hobby on internet forums do not (and never have) represent the average Rolex buyer.

True, amongst us perhaps the majority prefer the 5-digit predecessors; however, I'd wager 'we' equate to well under 5% of Rolex sales.

[OzgurTurk]

Sorry all, i like 116610 more than other subs and that's why i have purchased my first rolex. i have three different rolex right now

[brokenchains]

I like the Sub C but my favorite would be the last Sub produced without the engraved chapter ring, however when I did own a K serial sub I used to hate the dust that formed around the cyclops so its a Sea Dweller for me.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

after holding my friends rootbeer gmt today, i can say without a doubt i will NEVER go back to the old clasp. It really does feel like a tuna can now lmaoooo his was the 2005 model

[GlideLockHeadLock]

Originally Posted by busytimmy

The new curves (lugs) are sexy! More cushion, as it were

i cant believe people complain about the Lugs so much. i think they look great. im also thinking most of the new Lug haters either have baby wrist or have never tryed one on and there judging from pictures.

The 116610 is an improvement over the 16610 in every way besides the cost to replace the bezel.

The old clasp compared to the new is like going from a Pinto to a Lambo.

[busytimmy]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

i cant believe people complain about the Lugs so much. i think they look great. im also thinking most of the new Lug haters either have baby wrist or have never tryed one on and there judging from pictures.

The 116610 is an improvement over the 16610 in every way besides the cost to replace the bezel.

The old clasp compared to the new is like going from a Pinto to a Lambo.

My wrists are 6.75 on a good day.

[ufboy73]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

i cant believe people complain about the Lugs so much. i think they look great. im also thinking most of the new Lug haters either have baby wrist or have never tryed one on and there judging from pictures.

The 116610 is an improvement over the 16610 in every way besides the cost to replace the bezel.

The old clasp compared to the new is like going from a Pinto to a Lambo.

i dont know, i absolutely LOVE subs... i mean, they defined rolex for me. i have a gmtII-C and dssd and just love them every time i look at them - so, i, not anti-modern/ceramic by any means.

ive tried time and time again to convince myself at the AD to pull the trigger on a sub-c and i just cant do it....i absolutely HATE the lug shape and is impact on the case shape.

i know it will seem unbelievable but that one thing really bugs the hell out of me and ruins the watch for me.

it really sucks because the bracelet is soooooo much better with the new clasp.

[PunkJr]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

after holding my friends rootbeer gmt today, i can say without a doubt i will NEVER go back to the old clasp. It really does feel like a tuna can now lmaoooo his was the 2005 model

do people really make decisions on watch purchases based on a claps on a bracelet! When the watch is on your wrist, does it really matter - can you even tell?

[ufboy73]

Originally Posted by PunkJr

do people really make decisions on watch purchases based on comfort!

ftfy

[PunkJr]

Originally Posted by ufboy73

ftfy

so a heavier clasp and bracelet is more comfortable than a lighter one? No. It's the same reason I took the original bracelet from my Speedy and put on the Omega 1171 bracelet on. Felt very light, and you think the 93150 and 501 end links feel cheap........but once it's on the wrist, who cares. But if you like to sit around fondling your watch bracelets, then that's an entirely different matter.

[ufboy73]

why would you assume comfort is dictated by weight? im primarily refering to sizing and the ability to more quickly and easily adjust the fit in varying conditions, making the watch more comfortable during various activties.

[busytimmy]

Originally Posted by PunkJr

do people really make decisions on watch purchases based on a claps on a bracelet! When the watch is on your wrist, does it really matter - can you even tell?

Of course you can tell. That's the whole point. The bracelet on the SubC is one of the very best sport watch bracelets available. The micro adjustment means this watch is supremely comfortable on the wrist (for me anyway)

[PunkJr]

well, like we say down here in South Aust., sometimes you just have to toughen up. My G-Shock is the most comfortable watch I own.

[LightOnAHill]

I don't understand how wearing any watch, especially a rolex or a subC says to otherpeople that you don't know anything about watches?


How does it?


What I think is going on is that you're worried somebody will think that of you, so you're trying to wear a watch that you think would communicate that - because I wear this model, it is clear that I know something about watches.

Personally, I only know a little about watches, but I could care less both simply about knowing or about people knowing that I know only a little, because I take personal pride in knowing other things and having vast and extensive knowledge about other stuff, professional and personal, work and hobbies.

The few people that I care about what they think about me are related to me by blood or law, and some close friends. I value their thoughts, in general and about me. Strangers? naw...


Let us know how flipping it goes!


I'm going to go to sleep. Hopefully you'll have it sold by the morning and have a day date on the way!

[Jack T]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

I keep reading about the maxi-dial on the new sub but I thought this wasn't possible according to a salesman at 'my' Rolex AD. I'm getting confused by the day. I though only the GMT and the Hulk had a maxi dial?


Just to be sure, the updates are:

1. The new clasp/bracelet glidelock
2. The Chromalight lume
3. Ceramic bezel
4. no lug holes
edit: 5. Maxi case

In addition to the beefed up clasp, the bracelet itself tapers more from the lugs to the clasp, subtly, intended to give a more dressy look.
All in all, I like what I have, but I do like the new features too.

[mailman]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

i cant believe people complain about the Lugs so much. i think they look great. im also thinking most of the new Lug haters either have baby wrist or have never tryed one on and there judging from pictures.

The 116610 is an improvement over the 16610 in every way besides the cost to replace the bezel.

The old clasp compared to the new is like going from a Pinto to a Lambo.

Yes, the Sub C is a great all around everyday watch. I wore one for two years. I decided to go back to the old style because I prefer the slimmer profile for everyday use. I also find the older style more comfortable for everyday due to the lower weight. My wrists are far from 'baby' size

Yes, the Glidelock is wonderful. Time will tell if it holds up as well as long as the older style. However, you're way off base calling the tuna can clasp a Pinto. It's been around for quite a long time with very few problems associated with it