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Fat_ninja · 6 July 2019, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by turborolex

Was offered the WT recently with a nice discount. Still passed because the dial is too busy and even with the discount, the resale value is pretty bad.

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Yeah it’s amazing all these fall so hard... good thing I got another 5711 to offset my pain lol

There are 2 tags...this one is for me

beshannon · 6 July 2019, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquaman

in this bubble do you realise how much your collection is worth

Honestly no.

I buy watches to own and enjoy. Someone wants to make me a cash offer for my 5711, it would have to be pretty sweet as my investment is in the years I will have to own, wear and enjoy my watch and then give it to my son.

turborolex · 6 July 2019, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Yeah it’s amazing all these fall so hard... good thing I got another 5711 to offset my pain lol

There are 2 tags...this one is for me

Congrats!!

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ap1 · 7 July 2019, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I feel less bad cause going in I knew I was losing a certain amount.... the 5524 free fell... its cool. I have a few new things to keep me company

I’m thick, what’s going on here, double incoming?

Fat_ninja · 7 July 2019, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ap1

I’m thick, what’s going on here, double incoming?

Do u notice the Beijing on the dial...I don’t know if I’m 100% sold on this yet

ap1 · 7 July 2019, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Do u notice the Beijing on the dial...I don’t know if I’m 100% sold on this yet

You prefer HK?

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liljctl · 7 July 2019, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I went into the 5196 expecting a lost of a certain amount. He 5524G dropped by double that amount in less than 6 months

That's fair enough.

Lots of contributors post incomings of hot pieces but there's a lot going on in the background to grease those AD wheels.

I've picked up a 5196J, 5170P and a 5524G in the last 6 months because I wanted them but it sure stings to see their values now.

I'm not after appreciation. Value retention will suffice.

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Fat_ninja · 7 July 2019, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ap1

You prefer HK?

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Not 100% sure either way

jrs146 · 7 July 2019, 02:52 AM

It’s worth something once you sell. Until then, it’s just a watch.

s.m.b. · 7 July 2019, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

It’s worth something once you sell. Until then, it’s just a watch.

Russell996 · 7 July 2019, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

My buddy Dane who was banished from TRF.... tells me ‘no perpetual goes up’. And I think he is right.

I think (at least in the current Nautilus market), you are still in safe territory with a 5740G. Particularly since it is an amazing piece on the wrist.

AK797 · 7 July 2019, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

It’s JUST worth something once you sell. Until then, it’s a watch.

Let's amend that Just.

AK797 · 7 July 2019, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

I think (at least in the current Nautilus market), you are still in safe territory with a 5740G. Particularly since it is an amazing piece on the wrist.

Yes, I see WF are still asking £180k plus for this, don't know how long it has been there. Also curious that Chronext never have this model, makes me think the market for this is quite small so it could be more volatile if a certain trend up or down transpires.

jrs146 · 7 July 2019, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Let's amend that Just.

Haha that works for me also.

On a side note... I threw on my Panerai today. Bought it new from the AD. I received a small discount, but nothing to write home about and I easily lost thousands immediately. But there’s something I love about it and in this market I almost appreciate it more than some that just keep going up in value. Not sure why... but just thought about that today.

SL BRABUS · 8 July 2019, 07:21 AM

I been watch collecting hobby for close to 30 years....

Not a single pieces in my collection lose money..... Some make insanely more & some make less..... Even my wife 26mm two tone DateJust came out nicely..... That right you heard me......

Thanks to my grandparents and my parents knowledge.....

They told me if I want a watch, The only brand to buy are Rolex & Patek because they depreciate the least.... And from their knowledge I took it further........

I been adding watches never really want to sell it...... Only sold one because a friend of my bugging me to sell the President Day Date with a stella dial to him.... I bought it preowned for $7,000 at that time and sold to him for $13,000 two weeks later because he couldn't find any President Day Date for under $16,000 at that time....... If I were to keep it, it would be worth a lot more....

The key factor to do well in this watch collecting hobby game is to......

1. keep it long term....
2. buy it right at the right price....
3. If cash out don't look back to buying it back, unless the price is right.....
4. keep it as a hobby not a hardcore investment...... Otherwise you go nuts...

In today market the watch game and the watch hobby has change a lot.....

As for me the good part is the appreciation of all my collection and the bad part is you could kiss good bye at buying Rolex & Patek that you want at a reasonable price......

SL BRABUS · 8 July 2019, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Cant even sell it :(

Not even for $20K...

..

I will take it off your hand... To show you I'm your good friend...

Fat_ninja · 8 July 2019, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

Not even for $20K...

..

I will take it off your hand... To show you I'm your good friend...

lol only if u send me ur aqua to try

Xelorpepsi · 8 July 2019, 07:44 AM

Even an unpopular models such as the 5119R-001 has seen its prices double...

@Fat_ninja, you said that your +1 does not want you to buy second hand watches. Any reason for that if you don't me asking?

SL BRABUS · 8 July 2019, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

lol only if u send me ur aqua to try

Fair enough..

.... But it on bracelet, I doubt you will like it.....

Fat_ninja · 8 July 2019, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

Fair enough..

.... But it on bracelet, I doubt you will like it.....

I have tools now. A friend showed me which tools to buy :)

My AD asked yesterday...you don’t want me to size your watch? I’m like no. I can do it myself

liljctl · 8 July 2019, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I feel less bad cause going in I knew I was losing a certain amount.... the 5524 free fell... its cool. I have a few new things to keep me company

Is that your second blue 5711? Impressive

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Fat_ninja · 8 July 2019, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Xelorpepsi

Even an unpopular models such as the 5119R-001 has seen its prices double...

@Fat_ninja, you said that your +1 does not want you to buy second hand watches. Any reason for that if you don't me asking?

She doesn’t like used things. It’s really as simple as that. No used cars neither. Houses seems to be ok for some odd reason

np2016 · 8 July 2019, 08:27 AM

I have all my timepieces on the chrono 24 App which gives you an idea what your collection is worth similar to an investment portfolio updated daily. All my timepieces are stainless steel so everything is up big league. I can't complain just hope I can get a 5712 soon from my AD.

tom2517 · 8 July 2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

Chrono24 figures are junk outside of the obvious fast selling Nautilus, Aquanaut, Daytona, RO etc etc. Tells me my some of my pieces are 200% but I know i’m looking at 30% loss. The rarer the piece the worse the estimate.

So true.

But overall the watches that I own are just pennies compare to the real estates that I own. I never buy watches for value retention or appreciation, if that’s the case I wouldn’t have bought indies, modified rolexes, and grand seikos.

Aqua75 · 9 July 2019, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pateks

Agree. It’s not a traditional Patek at all. That is not why I like it. Here are the reasons I love it.

1- 42 mm. Yes I know traditional pateks have all been smaller. But for a guy like me, 6’4”, 220 pounds- a 38 or 39 mm watch does t feel good. Does t look good. I love that Patek now has watches for all sizes. My 5524, 5522, 5905, 5968 are all 42mm. I will only buy pateks that are larger going forward- 42mm only.

2- it’s functuonal- as I stated- the dual time zone, night day indicators are very useful. I’ve worn it for travel all over the world and the watch is useful to know if I should call home or if it’s in the middle of the night and I’m gonna wake everyone up.

3- easy to read. One critique I have about my 5905 Blue is the dial and hands are a bit rough to read. 5524- perfect.

I dressed up my 5524 in a blue strap. It really spices up the watch nicely.

Could you upload a picture of it on the blue strap please? I’m always looking at different options for mine.

s.m.b. · 9 July 2019, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by liljctl

Is that your second blue 5711? Impressive

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Whoa! If so... truly impressive!

How many Nautilus watches have you managed to acquire from ADs over the last year, Ninja? 6 or 7? When is the book coming out?

Aquaman · 9 July 2019, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by s.m.b.

Whoa! If so... truly impressive!

How many Nautilus watches have you managed to acquire from ADs over the last year, Ninja? 6 or 7? When is the book coming out?

liljctl · 9 July 2019, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

She doesn’t like used things. It’s really as simple as that. No used cars neither. Houses seems to be ok for some odd reason

My wife is the same.

I usually just remind her I was not her first so I'm technically used.

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Commonproject · 9 July 2019, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by np2016

I have all my timepieces on the chrono 24 App which gives you an idea what your collection is worth similar to an investment portfolio updated daily. All my timepieces are stainless steel so everything is up big league. I can't complain just hope I can get a 5712 soon from my AD.

What's with all the pieces on Chrono24 without any original papers or boxes? Feels sketchy...

Yzord · 9 July 2019, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquaman

hello guys and girls

obviously we are in a midst of bubble watch wise

but when you think about your current watch collection, do you realise how much money you have spent, and how much it could be worth now, especially if you only pay retail

you dont have to say figures etc, im sure you have 1 buy where you have lost money and some which you would have gained on, if you did kick it down the road after a few yeas, or unless you are a flipper

According to Chrono24 i am up 30%

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SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,349	I been watch collecting hobby for close to 30 years.... Not a single pieces in my collection lose money..... Some make insanely more & some make less..... Even my wife 26mm two tone DateJust came out nicely..... That right you heard me...... Thanks to my grandparents and my parents knowledge..... They told me if I want a watch, The only brand to buy are Rolex & Patek because they depreciate the least.... And from their knowledge I took it further........ I been adding watches never really want to sell it...... Only sold one because a friend of my bugging me to sell the President Day Date with a stella dial to him.... I bought it preowned for $7,000 at that time and sold to him for $13,000 two weeks later because he couldn't find any President Day Date for under $16,000 at that time....... If I were to keep it, it would be worth a lot more.... The key factor to do well in this watch collecting hobby game is to...... 1. keep it long term.... 2. buy it right at the right price.... 3. If cash out don't look back to buying it back, unless the price is right..... 4. keep it as a hobby not a hardcore investment...... Otherwise you go nuts... In today market the watch game and the watch hobby has change a lot..... As for me the good part is the appreciation of all my collection and the bad part is you could kiss good bye at buying Rolex & Patek that you want at a reasonable price...... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

8 July 2019, 07:44 AM	#108
Xelorpepsi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 308	Even an unpopular models such as the 5119R-001 has seen its prices double... @Fat_ninja, you said that your +1 does not want you to buy second hand watches. Any reason for that if you don't me asking?

8 July 2019, 08:27 AM	#113
np2016 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex, Patek, AP, Posts: 522	I have all my timepieces on the chrono 24 App which gives you an idea what your collection is worth similar to an investment portfolio updated daily. All my timepieces are stainless steel so everything is up big league. I can't complain just hope I can get a 5712 soon from my AD.

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