2020 Corvette

[Cloudchaser]

Ironically, some of these Corvette opinions are as old and outdated as the imagined target market.

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by mannyv11

local dealership told me they already have "600" orders placed.
Not sure if I believe him but they are one of the largest corvette dealers in the country.

if our home state was Florida Manny, I'd be one of them, still can't drive a 500HP vette in Boston Winters, not responsibly anyway.

[mannyv11]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

if our home state was Florida Manny, I'd be one of them, still can't drive a 500HP vette in Boston Winters, not responsibly anyway.

LOL who said you had to be responsible.

The convertible just got announced (shown) and it looks incredible. Hard top convertible only adds an additional 80 pounds

[RichM]

Originally Posted by mannyv11

local dealership told me they already have "600" orders placed.
Not sure if I believe him but they are one of the largest corvette dealers in the country.

Manny, is that MacMaulkin? I bought my 2012 from them.

[BigBoy17]

Best style, performance,reliabilty, for your buck.

0-60 under 3 seconds...... yea its a winner and a 911 killer or always has been

[simex]

can you say market adjustment.just like the grays but the dealers do it

[superdog]

Originally Posted by BigBoy17

Best style, performance,reliabilty, for your buck.

0-60 under 3 seconds...... yea its a winner and a 911 killer or always has been

I always find that funny.

When a fast Hyundai came out 10 years ago, they called it the mustang killer.

The new corvette is amazing.

It is by no means going to kill anything. It will likely have the exact same segment of buyers as it always had. Maybe a few people cross shopping that might not have in the past.

But with the incredible amount of options out there today, this is another in a long line that comes out every year and is awesome.

FWIW, I would still take a C7 anyway.

[Cloudchaser]

A fast Hyundai came out?

I'm not here to trash Porsche by any means but the 911 was already killed, performance wise, by the Cayman S....a mid-engine offering. If I had all the money, I'd choose the Cayman S over the 911 all day every day. And I'd take the Cayman S over this Corvette.

But comparing a brute beast like this mid-engine Corvette to a 911, performance-wise? Not really a fair fight. A 911 is its own kind of machine these days...and is very difficult to compare in regard to performance. The 911 demographic is a Porsche enthusiast and, as such, will always be willing to sacrifice modern sports car standards (balanced handling and raw power) in order to stick with the classic Porsche "feel" (oversteer that has evolved to understeer).

Looking forward to the Nurburgring laps!

That said, the Corvette will never have the same cachet as a 911. And I think both camps like it that way.

[Wesley Crusher]

The C8 looks really nice. Honestly, I’ve been a fan of the styling since the C5. Years later, the C5 still looks good imo.

No matter how fast this car is, I don’t think anybody who is in the market for a European sports car is going to make the switch. People buy sports cars for the image as much as the performance and the Corvette still isn’t on the same level as a Porsche, AMG, ///M and definitely nowhere close to Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc...

[1st amg]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

The C8 looks really nice. Honestly, I’ve been a fan of the styling since the C5. Years later, the C5 still looks good imo.

No matter how fast this car is, I don’t think anybody who is in the market for a European sports car is going to make the switch. People buy sports cars for the image as much as the performance and the Corvette still isn’t on the same level as a Porsche, AMG, ///M and definitely nowhere close to Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc...

You are bang on. Great insight


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[superdog]

Originally Posted by 1st amg

You are bang on. Great insight


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Agree.

[NYC6]

I currently own a supercharged C6 with over 600hp so I won’t be jumping into a new 2020 C8 but once the Z06 makes its appearance and year or two later, I likely will.

[DeIVIoNx3x]

Did they not have issues with the frame bending from the power?

[stockae92]

Saw one @ OC autoshow last night .. in the wrong color.

[ttomczak]

Originally Posted by superdog

I always find that funny.

When a fast Hyundai came out 10 years ago, they called it the mustang killer.

The new corvette is amazing.

It is by no means going to kill anything. It will likely have the exact same segment of buyers as it always had. Maybe a few people cross shopping that might not have in the past.

But with the incredible amount of options out there today, this is another in a long line that comes out every year and is awesome.

FWIW, I would still take a C7 anyway.

Good choice on the C7...

[dtwer]

Originally Posted by goin camping

A bit surprised at how many dismissive responses there are. Yes, it is a Chevy with all the usual Chevy things. Plasticky interior, No exclusivity, etc.

On the other hand. You can buy and service anywhere in the USA and get parts at NAPA.

A supercar that you can park on the street or in the mall parking lot and will always start and run.

The hourly service rate at the Antelope Valley Chevy dealership is what compared to the Hollywood Ferrari dealership?

Chip all you want but nobody nowhere is offering the performance and reliability the Vet is giving you for under $70K in coupe or convertible.

Right on.

Of course haters gonna hate.

[M45]

Well, my mom likes it.

I'll keep my 991.1.

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by dtwer

Right on.

Of course haters gonna hate.

A supercar that is attainable for Everyman. How can you possibly find fault with that?

[RobearH]

Originally Posted by cajunron

A supercar that is attainable for Everyman. How can you possibly find fault with that?

This statement reminds me of the Jumbo Shrimp and Military Intelligence joke or the over use of term SuperModel.

A real supercar is never attainable by the Everyman and a rear engine does not a supercar make....its still a Corvette which never was and never will be. It is no more a supercar then a Hellcat.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by cajunron

A supercar that is attainable for Everyman. How can you possibly find fault with that?

Reminds me of a lime from the incredibles.

If everyone is special, no one is.

[goin camping]

Originally Posted by cajunron

A supercar that is attainable for Everyman. How can you possibly find fault with that?

That it is not exclusive. ;)

[1st amg]

Originally Posted by superdog

Reminds me of a lime from the incredibles.

If everyone is special, no one is.

Oh boy, great great quote. i likey, makes sense

[Kimber007]

Originally Posted by RobearH

This statement reminds me of the Jumbo Shrimp and Military Intelligence joke or the over use of term SuperModel.

A real supercar is never attainable by the Everyman and a rear engine does not a supercar make....its still a Corvette which never was and never will be. It is no more a supercar then a Hellcat.

I'm curious to what your definition of a supercar is and why a Corvette ZR1 is not one

[77T]

“Supercar” is antiquated and vaguely defined methinks. Debate it if you will. What’s better is a range of performance parameters that yields a weighted score.

Heavier and more weight aft might cause some owners to understeer at times. The C8 is more of a larger GT in my opinion.

BTW, question for golfers - the trunk is reportedly able to hold 2 bags - but only in a one on top of the other config - does that worry anyone with expensive drivers and exotic shafts?


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[JasoninDenver]

To me “supercar” means I cannot even afford the oil change.

[dtwer]

Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

To me “supercar” means I cannot even afford the oil change.

Or as reliable as a chocolate teapot.

[dtwer]

Originally Posted by superdog

Reminds me of a lime from the incredibles.

If everyone is special, no one is.

But then again we are discussing the term "super," not "special."

Semantically, things that are of high quality, large or powerful, or with characteristics to an extreme or excessive degree can be defined as super.

It is not the same as being special or exclusive, or otherwise we would have referred to those cars as "specialcars," wouldn't we?

So to debate whether the Corvette C8 is no more qualified to be called a supercar than a, say, Ferrari 458, one has to first define what qualifies as "super" in this context.

To me, the C8 qualifies as a supercar because it provides the middle-class buyers a feasible mean to own a gorgeous-looking car that can take them from 0-60 in 2.9 seconds without resorting to selling one of their kidneys. That kind of value-to-cost ratio is, to me, super.

[GB-man]

For me the biggest win with this car is the continued use of the NA engine. 0-60 is not something I get caught up with anymore. Anything sub 4 seconds is fast enough to 60 for me.

[Kimber007]

More Lamborghini Huracán's are produced in a year than ZR1 coupes so you can't say it's not a supercar because of rarity.

There are Lamborghini dealerships in many different countries in which you can go in and purchase yet the ZR1 is only made in the US and not shipped to any dealerships outside of the US. Therefore you can't say the ZR1 is not a supercar due to exclusivity.

A ZR1 makes 755 hp and the Huracán makes 571 hp so you can't say it's not a supercar due to power.

Power to weight ratio: Only 4.7 pounds per horsepower for the ZR1 compared to 5.62 pounds for the Huracán. Therefore you can't say it's not a supercar due to weight.

You can purchase both a ZR1 and Huracán in the $150-200k range so you can't say it's not a supercar due to price.

The ZR1 can do 0-60 is 2.85 seconds which is the same as a new McLaren Senna so you can't say it's not a supercar due to acceleration

In the 12 year history of Car and Drivers Lightning Lap which has tested numerous supercars the ZR1 holds the 2nd fastest time ever beating the Huracán, McLaren 720 S, Ford GT, etc. so you can't say it's not a supercar due to performance.

The ZR1 has a top speed of 212 mph vs the Huracán's 199 mph so you can't say it's not a supercar due to speed.

If someone 100% believes the Corvette ZR1 is not a supercar then I am genuinely interested in knowing exactly why

[Kimber007]

To get back on topic with the C8, have any of you ordered one yet? If so, what options did you go with?

I was in Bowling Green a couple weeks ago and although I got to spend a few days on the their testing track I wasn't even allowed on the same road as the plant due to the UAW strike.

For those who have ordered, have you been given a time frame and has the strike impacted it at all?